Just got a news alert that erie county NY has curfew 10:30 to 7:00am

[holdover]

Yep. Charge them with 490.20, assuming it's in NY. If the state they did it in has similar laws, charge them there.

I'd say doing that is probably even a more clear case, as threatening to burn down buildings unless your political wants are met is pretty clearly a terroristic threat with intent to intimidate the populace and intimidate local govt policies.

Let me get this right? So you think the threat was real?

 

[spat]

Yep. Charge them with 490.20, assuming it's in NY. If the state they did it in has similar laws, charge them there.

I'd say doing that is probably even a more clear case, as threatening to burn down buildings unless your political wants are met is pretty clearly a terroristic threat with intent to intimidate the populace and intimidate local govt policies.

We could lock up half the democrat party.

 

[SonOfSun]

So you think the threat was real?

I think that is reasonable to take the threat to burn down buildings seriously, if spat is referring to what I think he's referring to.

 

[Acer-m14]

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That’s just Saturday on CNN

i seen that Cnn did the same reporting yrs ago .. Fiery but a peaceful flight .. the Hindenburg blimp LOL ..

 

[SonOfSun]

We could lock up half the democrat party.

If they committed the crime I don't give shit what percent it is, lock them up.

Lock them up as in, prosecute them through the legal system where they have a day in court, and if convicted face a penalty.

 

[holdover]

I think that is reasonable to take the threat to burn down buildings seriously, if spat is referring to what I think he's referring to.

No Im talking about the bar owner. Do you think the threat was real?

 

[holdover]

 

[holdover]

Well?

 

[SonOfSun]

No Im talking about the bar owner. Do you think the threat was real?

Given the circumstances I could see someone taking it seriously. The guy was super pissed about their mere presence. Video Timestamp:
38:17 "come down to my fucking bar, you ruin my fucking business you motherfuckers"

He then threatens to kill them/someone not once, not twice, but three times
38:33 "I'll kill you you motherfucker"
39:47 "You fucking weasel, I'll kill you"
40:14 "I'm gonna kill that motherfucker"


Given that he made the threats with police standing there AND the guy perceived his business as being ruined (by them walking by exercising their 1A right apparently?) I can see taking the threat seriously. Some people walking by on public property chanting a slogan for 5 minutes isn't going to ruin your business. People can go off the rails crazy if they feel their livelihood is endangered (whether the danger is real or not). The guys reaction was not that of a rational person, and irrational people do crazy shit - like kill people.

 

[SonOfSun]

Well?

Settle down beavis.

 

[holdover]

Ok then you believe that the threat was real. Then the Marxists or the police using lethal force against the bar owner would be justified.

Am I correct?

It would be OK to just blow his head off? Because according to you it would be.

 

[GOPerfect]

Words... Whatever. Anyone offended by words can piss right off. Grow some balls and thicken your skin.

Offended by words? Get a life you freaken losers. I do not care what words are used. Sticks and stones may break my bones, but names cannot hurt me.

Again, grow up.

 

[spat]

If they committed the crime I don't give shit what percent it is, lock them up.

Lock them up as in, prosecute them through the legal system where they have a day in court, and if convicted face a penalty.

Can we start with this one ?

 

[Elwood]

Let’s cut the bullshit and get to the heart of the matter of why all of this keeps happening. The urban inner city communities want to idolize the thug life mentality. Turning your own neighborhoods into war zones, selling contraband of all flavors, running around with your pants half way off your ass or rolling thru the hood blaring garbage trap music for all the world to hear, wether anyone else wants to hear it or not. No consideration for anyone or anything.
When dealing with police, those individuals want to play dumb, act stupid, pretend they don’t understand what their being told to do, or flat out refuse to cooperate. Run from the cops and put them in the position of having no choice but to use force.
Then when they fuck around and find out the hard way that the police don’t play that shit, they want to turn common criminals into saints. Burn their own community to the ground, destroy property, ruin local businesses, then cry about the conditions in said communities. Ain’t nobody buying that bullshit except the blue haired ugly ass white millennial’s that have no ability to think independently for themselves and are easily led around by the nose by some half assed wannabe “revolutionary” like the ones in the previous video.

good day sir.

 

[SonOfSun]

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Can we start with this one ?

If you can prove it in court, sure.

 

[GOPerfect]

Has nothing to do with this conversation....

 

[holdover]

Ok then you believe that the threat was real. Then the Marxists or the police using lethal force against the bar owner would be justified.

Am I correct?

It would be OK to just blow his head off? Because according to you it would be.

Hmmmmmm?

 

[SonOfSun]

Ok then you believe that the threat was real. Then the Marxists or the police using lethal force against the bar owner would be justified.

Am I correct?

At that level of escalation no. A good cuffing accompanied with a free car ride, sure.

 

[holdover]

Well you cant have it both ways kid. It was a legitimate threat or it was'nt.

You arrest him for a terrorist threat that you did not belive was really dangerous to begin with

Or the threat was real and The crowd was justified in killing him in self defense.

 

[SonOfSun]

Well you cant have it both ways kid. It was a legitimate threat or it was'nt.

You arrest him for a terrorist threat that you did not belive was really dangerous to begin with

Or the threat was real and The crowd was justified in killing him in self defense.

There are levels between 0 and 100.

 

[holdover]

Ahhhhhh, no. self defense is clearly stated in the law.

If it wasnt a legitmate threat then you could neither arrest him for terrorism,(lol) or kill him.

 

[GOPerfect]

Let’s cut the bullshit and get to the heart of the matter of why all of this keeps happening. The urban inner city communities want to idolize the thug life mentality. Turning your own neighborhoods into war zones, selling contraband of all flavors, running around with your pants half way off your ass or rolling thru the hood blaring garbage trap music for all the world to hear, wether anyone else wants to hear it or not. No consideration for anyone or anything.
When dealing with police, those individuals want to play dumb, act stupid, pretend they don’t understand what their being told to do, or flat out refuse to cooperate. Run from the cops and put them in the position of having no choice but to use force.

Then when they fuck around and find out the hard way that the police don’t play that shit, they want to turn common criminals into saints. Burn their own community to the ground, destroy property, ruin local businesses, then cry about the conditions in said communities. Ain’t nobody buying that bullshit except the blue haired ugly ass white millennial’s that have no ability to think independently for themselves and are easily led around by the nose by some half assed wannabe “revolutionary” like the ones in the previous video.

good day sir.

This is the post of the day if I may say so myself.

This is the fantastic truth.

 

[SonOfSun]

A threat is not the same thing as commision of the threatened act. However, depending on how it's done, a threat even if not acted on can be a crime.

Levels of force. At that point in time there was no need to shoot the guy (and they didn't) however IMO a cuffing and car ride could be justified.

 

[Elwood]

This is the post of the day if I may say so myself.

This is the fantastic truth.

 

[SonOfSun]

blaring garbage trap music for all the world to hear

Trap music? Going to go out on a limb here and consider myself lucky to not know what that is.

 

[Acer-m14]

i think its rap .. just a slip on the keyboard or phone

 

[Marine Cpl]

They are all white people in that video. I do not understand.

 

[GOPerfect]

 

[holdover]

A threat is not the same thing as commision of the threatened act. However, depending on how it's done, a threat even if not acted on can be a crime.

Levels of force. At that point in time there was no need to shoot the guy (and they didn't) however IMO a cuffing and car ride could be justified.

No, You lose, Thanks for playing.

 

[SonOfSun]

No, You lose, Thanks for playing.