holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No,no,no, FARRRRRRRRRR worse than what you see right now. This aint nothing.
L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti to Cut $150 Million from Police; ‘Reinvest’ in ‘Communities of Color’
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Hold the phone here.
This post is a self contained lesson in irony:
If that were to happen, which has the same likelihood of "If everyone had guns, it'd be the WILD WEST!", but if it were, people would have to take care of themselves.
...
...which they wouldn't be able to do because the cops would arrest them for possessing the tools to do so.
I rest my case.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
So what's keeping us "on the straight and narrow" at the moment?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I’ll answer. It’s getting killed for our actions that keeps us straight. It doesn’t matter who does the killing.
Agreed. But some of us are held accountable.
I, for example, couldn't choke the life out of a guy in the middle of the street with the entire world as a witness one day and have people literally stating he died of COVID the next.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Just so happens we get to put your experiment to the test. Lets see how this works out.
Louisville police officers walk out on mayor as form of protest, claiming disrespect
Dozens of police officers in Louisville, Ky. reportedly walked out on the city's Democratic mayor, Greg Fischer, as a form of protest, as the Fraternal Order of Police president explained that the officers felt “disrespected” as they struggle to keep the peace after more than a week of fiery protests.
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Louisville police officers walk out on mayor as form of protest, claiming disrespect
Dozens of police officers in Louisville, Ky. reportedly walked out on the city's Democratic mayor, Greg Fischer, as a form of protest, as the Fraternal Order of Police president explained that the officers felt “disrespected” as they struggle to keep the peace after more than a week of fiery protests.
Louisville police officers walk out on mayor as form of protest, claiming disrespect
Dozens of police officers in Louisville, Kentucky walked out on Mayor Greg Fischer in a form of protest, as the Fraternal Order of Police president explained that the officers felt “disrespected” as they struggle to keep peace after more than a week of fiery protests.
www.foxnews.com
When Louisville still exists next week are you going to come back and correct your stance?Just so happens we get to put your experiment to the test. Lets see how this works out.
Louisville police officers walk out on mayor as form of protest, claiming disrespect
Dozens of police officers in Louisville, Ky. reportedly walked out on the city's Democratic mayor, Greg Fischer, as a form of protest, as the Fraternal Order of Police president explained that the officers felt “disrespected” as they struggle to keep the peace after more than a week of fiery protests.
Louisville police officers walk out on mayor as form of protest, claiming disrespect
Dozens of police officers in Louisville, Kentucky walked out on Mayor Greg Fischer in a form of protest, as the Fraternal Order of Police president explained that the officers felt “disrespected” as they struggle to keep peace after more than a week of fiery protests.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Anarchy is a real thing. being dragged from your car by a gang and killed is a real danger . Your wife and kids don't have a chance . If you think its all going to be kumbaya, Your seriously misjudging the situation
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
That depends on what happens doesn't it? Exist? Yeah its going to exist, But will it resemble life as they knew it ? I doubt it. And we don't know if the state police, or sheriff will fill in the gap , or they return in a day or two either. But its going to be interesting to see what happens in regards to your position
That's probably why, before the US government was form, everybody just died.
Well, we've already seen what happens when they are there.
Remember all those rooftop cops that came out to protect businesses during the LA riots? How would they have survived without them?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I am not following what you are saying now but I was agreeing with your original point. People don’t burglarize a cops home or try to rob him personally because they could get killed. The same happens in red country homes and with the citizenry out in the street. Burglaries are rare. In blue country homes like in Long Island, burglaries are common. In NYC, personal robberies are common. There is no fear of death.
It doesn't matter who kills who. The end result for the dead person is the same.
But what does matter is if they have the costume of legal immunity on.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
No. Dude , Your misguided. gangs will form up in the citys , like they have always done in the past in times of unrest. They will control the food and the weapons and water. Im not talking about the farmlands and small towns , but the citys are fucked . everything in or out is controlled by gangs .
And you know what makes me sad, quoting myself here, about this?
If the Roof Koreans did this today in LA, not a doubt in my mind that the ones being arrested wouldn't be the protesters.
In fact...
This is a photograph of an actual Roof Korean. That gun he is holding, in LA county, would get him locked up WAY faster than the rioters.
And it wouldn't be the politicians cuffing him.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Fair point, but theres more to it than that. who's going to investigate a rape or murdered child? the Korean roof masters?
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Two separate things. Law enforcement will investigate the rape and murder as they should.
Those roof top guys were there just to protect their property and lives as it is their right granted by the constitution.
One of the many things oathkeepers does is to provide help form professionals like ex military, leo, fire, medics, etc.. to go and help
citizens with tactics, intelligence and support to help them defend their properties and lives.
They went on roof tops during Katrinas aftermath and had federal agents pointing their guns at them so that was a big deal
and offense to the organization until they finally understood and their superiors ordered a stand down.
You just don't point guns at innocent citizens that all they are trying to do is defend themselves.
The key here is good communication so the law enforcement knows where they are so there are no mistakes between who is there
in good faith or who is there to take advantage like some thugs trying to exploit the situation.
Remember that?
It's an interesting concept... The great equalizer!
Eliminate Law Enforcement, and let the "People" dispense justice!!! Think of how much the communities would save... Save on moronic politicians who legislate unenforceable laws, save on the courts, prosecutors, etc., and to a large extent, the jails as well. Some coats will increase, such a body disposal... But a return to tribal type cultural morality enforcement could be just what the future needs!
Steal... Lose a hand!
Rape... You know!
Kill, well that's easy, but no life sentences!
Child molester... Life of beatings to near death, made whole, then beaten again!
Is funny, because a legal system with no bite, really isn't a deterrent. When the system coddles criminals at the expense of the law abiding, it fails. So go ahead, cut your funding, lol.
Now in all seriousness, if the mayor had proclaimed that he was diverting 20-30 million for sensitivity and cultural training along with revised physical restraint education, I'd say, here, ok, kinda makes sense. But these people are all smoking some serious shyt, lol
Anyways...
Eliminate Law Enforcement, and let the "People" dispense justice!!! Think of how much the communities would save... Save on moronic politicians who legislate unenforceable laws, save on the courts, prosecutors, etc., and to a large extent, the jails as well. Some coats will increase, such a body disposal... But a return to tribal type cultural morality enforcement could be just what the future needs!
Steal... Lose a hand!
Rape... You know!
Kill, well that's easy, but no life sentences!
Child molester... Life of beatings to near death, made whole, then beaten again!
Is funny, because a legal system with no bite, really isn't a deterrent. When the system coddles criminals at the expense of the law abiding, it fails. So go ahead, cut your funding, lol.
Now in all seriousness, if the mayor had proclaimed that he was diverting 20-30 million for sensitivity and cultural training along with revised physical restraint education, I'd say, here, ok, kinda makes sense. But these people are all smoking some serious shyt, lol
Anyways...
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Investigators or police or detectives. Whatever you want to call them. Same as now when you kill someone in your home. Nobody is saying to get rid of Quote Unquote “Police”. They can be relegated to the duties they used to have back in the days which was investigate and charge.
Back in the olden days if someone tried to steal your horse, you killed him or held him for the sheriff or magistrate.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
An investigator without the authority of law enforcement officer? Come on man. You guys are being silly. Civilization requires Laws, Laws require law enforcement officers . It sucks I get it, But your being unrealistic.
holdover
.475 A&M Magnum
Your moving the goal posts Darth put up. Hes saying no police are necessary, Your saying some .
I'm beginning to think you don't actually live in the same society as me.
You keep making arguments from ignorance and considering things unfathomable that are completely commonplace.
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And this has what to do with law and order again?
meketrefe
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Of course laws are needed but I thought their job was to serve and protect ?
Like when we ask an officer for directions they are normally very nice and don't say: go to the information office, I am here to enforce the law!
Or when civilians and LE enforcement work together as one with the same goal like a massive search for a missing person. Nobody cares who has an uniform or not, it is all for the good and benefit of the community.
So I think, practically yes people cannot represent the law but I do belive in essence the role of the law enforcement goes far beyond
of simply enforcing laws. ..or maybe I am not being realistic.
The thing is law and community cannot be divided with a wedge by the state. that is when we run into problems in the long term.
Just so happens we get to put your experiment to the test. Lets see how this works out.
Louisville police officers walk out on mayor as form of protest, claiming disrespect
Dozens of police officers in Louisville, Ky. reportedly walked out on the city's Democratic mayor, Greg Fischer, as a form of protest, as the Fraternal Order of Police president explained that the officers felt “disrespected” as they struggle to keep the peace after more than a week of fiery protests.
Louisville police officers walk out on mayor as form of protest, claiming disrespect
Dozens of police officers in Louisville, Kentucky walked out on Mayor Greg Fischer in a form of protest, as the Fraternal Order of Police president explained that the officers felt “disrespected” as they struggle to keep peace after more than a week of fiery protests.
I would love to see this in all departments that are in the Libtard ran cities., all the city's that the elected elite are treating the cops like douche bags.
Cops all across the country are losing their lives and getting seriously hurt because of the policies of these mayors and the lib governors. After these policies are put forth, the elected masses are turning their backs on the departments and the officers.
Pulling the police out of the cities only hurts the law-abiding citizens of those cities.
The mayors and governors are filthy rich and can afford private security forces who, coincidentally, are exempt from the very firearm laws we must endure under.
These cops, rather than turn their backs on the people, should be enforcing all of the draconian laws on those who decided to enact them.
Arrest the private security forces under the SAFE Act.
Arrest herr Cuomo for impersonating for his constant cruising around with a State Police jacket on.
Right now, by walking out, they are actually playing into the hands of these corrupt politicians.
The people don't have the means to defend themselves effectively. The procedures have been in place long enough that many haven't been able to acquire the necessary tools for self defense, and now, with the covids and the riots, buying guns is very difficult in many places.
once the crowds of criminals realize the police are gone it will be open season on the law-abiding.
And the politicians will still sit safe behind their gated and walled off mansions with their expensive and well armed security forces, muttering platitudes to the people who are being attacked, murdered, raped, etc.
Curmudgeon
.308 Win
Anarchy is not synonymous with violence. Anarchy is a lack of order. Violence does not necessarily follow, except in some people's minds.
Curmudgeon
.308 Win
Maybe people would band together with their neighbors to protect them and theirs.
Maybe people would get their heads out of their phones 24x7.
Maybe when word gets out that a couple thugs got capped ly the local neighborhood watch, the rest of the thugs might think twice.
Not you specifically, but there seems to be a lot of altruistic thoughts in this thread about "protecting our cities" but an expectation of someone else to do it.
Every person in America should take responsibility for themselves and those they love and not expect others to do it for them.