FrankyBlk
22lr
Hey. I’m in westchester county and needed to know if this 9mm Pcc is legal? 
Legal or nah? (9mm Pcc S&W)
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Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Looks okay from here.
Robin
Robin
Vapor
.308 Win
No.
wirehairfan
.40 S&W
Looks like it has a detachable magazine and pistol grip. Possibly also other features (adjustable stock, threaded barrel). That's very scary. What am I missing that makes it "compliant"?
You may need to take that picture down, as Jumbo James the Hut is likely to shit herself uncontrollably if she simply sees it! Then again, maybe you SHOULD leave it posted! YMMV.
The Smith & Wesson Response breaks barriers for those looking to enter the pistol caliber carbine market. With its innovative FLEXMAG™ System, you can use a wide range of double stack 9MM pistol magazines from Smith & Wesson® and other manufacturers. The familiar MSR controls make it an easy transition for those looking to use on the range, and with the ability to change parts with existing MSR accessories, it makes optimizing to your needs easy. Take control with the new Smith & Wesson Response!
- 16.5" 1:10” twist barrel
- FLEXMAG™ magazine well adapters. (Interchangeable magazine well adapters that let you use a variety of magazines from Smith & Wesson and other manufacturers.)
- 32 1/8" collapsed length, 35 3/8" extended length.
- 1/2-28 threaded muzzle with thread protector.
- Flat-face trigger with crisp break.
- M-LOK® slots on handguard with Picatinny-style rail on top.
- (2) FLEXMAG™ magazine well adapters (1-M&P Double stack - installed, 1-G17/G19).
- Compatible with M&P® Pistol double stack magazines and G17/G19 magazines.
- 2 x 10-round magazines.
DOES NOT MEET NYS REQUIREMENTS
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
When you pull the trigger and it goes bang, ejects the spent casing, picks up and loads an unfired cartridge ten times in a row (eleven if there was one in the chamber) without a hiccup, you should be good to go. Do they make one in .45ACP ?
Robin
PS: FUNY
Robin
PS: FUNY
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
I tend to agree...pistol grip and detachable magazine...those are No No;s here I beleive.
Hense the fugly Thordsen stock thingy...on many NY compliant AR variants.
Hense the fugly Thordsen stock thingy...on many NY compliant AR variants.
Vapor
.308 Win
A non threaded Ruger PC carbine is what you want.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Any assault weapon feature makes a long gun illegal in this state. Any of these with a detachable magazine is illegal. Flash suppressor, collapsible or adjustable stick, second forehand grip, pistol grip. The list goes on but read section 22 of this link for the full details on how to ruin your fun in NYS.
ypdcrime.com
Article 265 Penal Law Firearms - Dangerous Weapons | NY Law
Firearms and Other Dangerous Weapons. A person is guilty of criminal possession of a weapon in the third degree
ypdcrime.com
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
Just go to your local gun store here in NY and look at their featureless NY compliant AR platforms. That should answer your question. I know that no form of pistol grip under the action with a detachable magazine is allowed. There is something about pinned magazine where disassembly is require to load and unload and something about making it difficult to shoulder and fire safely for certain folks like women and men with small frames and short arms. I can't keep up with the nonsense. 
I'm sure I am missing something else.
Every other state not playing this BS game has ZERO issues.
I'm sure I am missing something else.Every other state not playing this BS game has ZERO issues.
Not legal for the Serfs in NYS
And he's got to have that special "Semi-automatic Rifle" Licenses before it can be transferred. (presuming compliance)
Truebeliever
6.5 Creedmoor
Anyone get a special semi automatic rifle license after this bill was passed or is your county just adding it to your pistol license?
Willyone
6.5 Creedmoor
Sure... go for it...
As far as I've ascertained, there isn't even a packet for applying...It's the exact same for a Handgun, so why bother with just the Rifle endorsement unless you were crafty or concerned about being Red Flagged and loosing ALL your guns should the Firearms (Handgun) Licenses be pulled.
On it's face the requirements for a "Semi-automatic Rifle" permission slip are unobtainable for many, and because the Licenses requirement is essentially unworkable, someone threw in the idea of accepting a Handgun Licenses with the endorsement, which IS NOT in the Law, the Law called out for its own unique licenses, but those in charge of enforcement KNEW it was total bullshit, but played along anyway.