Retention is good draws fine one handed or not depends on what you're wearing. FWIW I've taken pistol classes with this holster and can run it all day with shirt tucked in behind it. With IWB and normal clothing both drawing and reholstering is usually a two handed operation.
Looking for holster manufacturer recommendations
- Thread starter Jchrisls
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Thinking of the horsehair one. What's the advantage?
Supposedly more durable. It's pretty stiff new once it breaks in super comfy.
1075tech
.338 Win Mag
We the People just looks cheap. No experience with Vedder.
After breaking a few DeSantis kydex, I tried Alien Gear.
Never had an issue with them. They work. Retention is good and they are comfortable. I have them for P32, XDS 45, and my P320.
OWB are either Galco or DeSantis leather
The side to side movement is a concern for me during a draw. Consistency in its location on your belt seems like an important concern. Maybe I'm wrong? I think I like the idea of a double clip, but understand the ease of using with a single clip. Am I overthinking things a bit?
I should have mentioned one more thing. I have looked at every link posted so far on this thread for each holster manufacturer and I appreciate the input. The "one more thing " is lead time to ship. This has been a concern since purchasing my first handgun. Some lead times have been as short as 8 days stretching out to 9 weeks. My hope is to receive the holster before the coupon comes in a week or so. With some of the manufacturers its possible, but most seem unlikely.
@Edwardteach72
I really love the dark star BTW- but a 9 week lead time puts it to far down the road right now.
I really love the dark star BTW- but a 9 week lead time puts it to far down the road right now.
Sadly the lead time was a hard pill to swallow, I think it took 8 weeks for me to get my holster.
Mag carrier was a little faster.
Well worth the cost and wait, but if I was getting my first holster id probably check out some quality Quick ship options
Then buy DSG later lol
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
glad to hear you like it Chris.
I just bought one and did a lot of research. I read a lot of reviews and people love them. I did the founders leather and the reckoning. It shipped yesterday and will be here Monday. It looks well made, has two clips where you can do IWB but comes with clips to do OWB. They say 1-2 week ship time but shipped in less than a week.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
JM Custom has quick ship items in stock. If your firearm is in this category you'll have it in 5-10 business days.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Having 2 strong metal clips (discreet carry clips) spaced apart as they are with JM's holsters makes more of a difference IMHO.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
I have one and like it as well. It does move around a bit on the belt if you’re wearing it all day, but I fell like I always know where it is. Swappable shells and adjustable retention is good and easy to use. I’ll pick up a 365 shell for mine soon enough since I sold one pistol off I didn’t like and I had a shell for that. I’ll compare there’s with the crossbreed and go from there.
Slacker43
.40 S&W
The clip holds up very well. You can change the cant on the clip. I have worn one of their belts as well. Expensive yes but I have been carrying for at least 8-10 years on the same belt. Retention is adjustable with the way the holster is put together. It is as easy as any holster to reholster the gun inside the waistband. I am not a small guy so there is more than my shirt in the way. I prefer this holster to others that I have had because the gun never comes out of it. The trigger is never exposed when I take it off and put it on the nightstand or on the couch with me in the evening. I also can run into somewhere that I cannot carry and just pull it out and put it in my console without taking my belt off. I think I just got lucky and found one that I liked pretty much right off the bat. I have one other brand that I used for a short while that was just kydex. Not bad but not as comfortable. I also have several owb holsters from comp-tac that I like as well. I never carry with them as they are pretty much just for range use.
Mine never moved, but I also have the first clip in front of my first loop. Probably around 1 or 2 o'clock. I also have it riding very high on me compared to most, but it conceals well on my skinny ass, and I can also reach it with a seatbelt on.
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
I've tried Alien Gear, maybe not that exact model, but I wasn't a fan of how much of the trigger guard is exposed - even in your picture. While it would be very difficult for something to make its way in there, why risk it?
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Better order soon if you want something next week. Shipping has been pretty slow through USPS.
I've actually made a decision and plan on placing the order today. Will be posting what and why in the thread later.
First and foremost, thanks to EVERYONE for thier advice....you guys ROCK. I really don't have many I can ask in this arena, and I read every post, researched every single recommendation from every manufacturer listed here. I spent 4 days on this and everyone's take was listened to and taken into consideration, mulled over and the best advice to a new guy was used. I tried to stick to my parameters but took the best advice from everyone's posts and put them all together in 1 holster. I know this will most likely NOT be the only one I buy, but wanted the best shot at getting it "right " on the first go round. The only parameter I bent on was shipping, as it is 12-15 days. Everything else came from the advice of all of you 
. The winner was... black arch holsters dual clip IWB protos-m with dri-matrix breathable backer.
Reasons-
dual clip ( thanks @Dr. Evil )
Leather and tuckable ( thanks @cgrutt and @Saltwater60 )
For steering me clear of exposed trigger guards (thanks @MikeyCNY )
And for the original recommendation and that it incorporates kydex ( @Edwardteach72 )
Confirmation of hybrid holsters ( thanks @Jem45472 )
And for directions as to local retailers what may carry a holster for my weird ass first gun ( thanks @ irick)
I may have missed a few folks here, and if I did I apologize, but everyone's input was taken very seriously.
Thanks so very much. THIS is why the gun community is awesome, and this site specifically is a great resource for all shooters, new and old.
A great many thanks to you all.
. The winner was... black arch holsters dual clip IWB protos-m with dri-matrix breathable backer. Reasons-
dual clip ( thanks @Dr. Evil )
Leather and tuckable ( thanks @cgrutt and @Saltwater60 )
For steering me clear of exposed trigger guards (thanks @MikeyCNY )
And for the original recommendation and that it incorporates kydex ( @Edwardteach72 )
Confirmation of hybrid holsters ( thanks @Jem45472 )
And for directions as to local retailers what may carry a holster for my weird ass first gun ( thanks @ irick)
I may have missed a few folks here, and if I did I apologize, but everyone's input was taken very seriously.
Thanks so very much. THIS is why the gun community is awesome, and this site specifically is a great resource for all shooters, new and old.
A great many thanks to you all.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Thanks for this post and that’s what we’re all here for. The experiences of the group are vast and I welcome the information exchanged on here as well. It has helped me greatly as well in many cases.First and foremost, thanks to EVERYONE for thier advice....you guys ROCK. I really don't have many I can ask in this arena, and I read every post, researched every single recommendation from every manufacturer listed here. I spent 4 days on this and everyone's take was listened to and taken into consideration, mulled over and the best advice to a new guy was used. I tried to stick to my parameters but took the best advice from everyone's posts and put them all together in 1 holster. I know this will most likely NOT be the only one I buy, but wanted the best shot at getting it "right " on the first go round. The only parameter I bent on was shipping, as it is 12-15 days. Everything else came from the advice of all of you
Reasons-
dual clip ( thanks @Dr. Evil )
Leather and tuckable ( thanks @cgrutt and @Saltwater60 )
For steering me clear of exposed trigger guards (thanks @MikeyCNY )
And for the original recommendation and that it incorporates kydex ( @Edwardteach72 )
Confirmation of hybrid holsters ( thanks @Jem45472 )
And for directions as to local retailers what may carry a holster for my weird ass first gun ( thanks @ irick)
I may have missed a few folks here, and if I did I apologize, but everyone's input was taken very seriously.
Thanks so very much. THIS is why the gun community is awesome, and this site specifically is a great resource for all shooters, new and old.
A great many thanks to you all.
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
I've heard good things about Black Arch but haven't tried them since BlackPoint Tactical is about the same - yes they are expensive but like many things in life you get what you pay for. If you need a holster NOW it's easy enough to buy a cheap $30 option then wait for the premium one - that way you have a backup holster as well.
Somewhere downstairs I even have left-handed versions for a couple guns, in case something happens and I can't use my right arm for a while. I do need to practice more with left hand-only shooting though... (don't we all)
Somewhere downstairs I even have left-handed versions for a couple guns, in case something happens and I can't use my right arm for a while. I do need to practice more with left hand-only shooting though... (don't we all)
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
You sound like you really did your homework. Great choice and best to you with it. 
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Late to this party I see, but I've been using N82 Tactical for all carry for many years. Super comfy, the leather/suede backing completely insulates the gun from any skin, adjustable cant on the clip, and its polypropylene, way stronger than kydex. And their customer service is awesome. After 5 or 6 years the threads for the screw hole had stripped put from adjusting here and there etc. They sent me a brand new holster with updated clip, no questions asked, and not even wanting a shipping fee.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Nice sized holster for that gun. Many small guns owners get full sized holsters and it makes no sense.
It makes perfect sense, the longer a holster is the better hit help with keeping the gun in place.
100% if and when i get a G43 or such, Dark Star Gear sells a holster for them that is G34 length and that will probably be what I get
TheMoneyPit
.357 mag
After trying a handful of brands I’ve landed on Vedder Holsters work well for me.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
makes sense. I went with the 365 XL holster for both guns so should work out for me. My 365 prints a bit but I added pinky extensions.