Mass shooting in buffalo NY

[Carlos Hathcock]

There will NEVER be a zero gun environment. Those who want will find a way. The only ones who will cave are the good people. That's when they lose before the game starts.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yes. Your right. But do you really think Kathy Hochul knows the difference? They have no clue. It sounds to me like others. We’ll see tomorrow

I feel like she would more likely know about AOW than Others

 

[Jchrisls]

@NYCGuy

Do you reside near or in nyc? If so, it explains a lot.

 

[GOPerfect]

I wonder. How many of you guys would agree with this:

Hypothetical: If we find a way to get rid of all guns… Whether that be a mandatory buy back, seizure, whatever. If it could happen. All guns gone including the uniformed oppressors can’t have guns anymore either. Would anyone here support that?

I’m a man’s man, I love nice cars, building shit with my hands, fishing, hiking and guns. I do however realize that fuck man even if i’m carrying, do I have to walk around with my head on a swivel everywhere I go and is it realistic? Can’t send your kids to the mall without a strapped bodyguard?

I don’t know man but I feel like this shit’s gonna get worse as more loser bitch-made men get raised everyday in this country by weak fathers who don’t wear the pants at home. The punks are breeding more punks. I think our culture of gun ownership will become unsustainable.

I’m ok going to the football game where everyone’s gotta go through the metal detector. What i’m not ok with is “no guns allowed honor system” like schools and any place with a sign that says no guns as if that’s not an invitation for the cowardly lunatic to go shoot unarmed people.

If nobody has a gun, including the communist soldiers (police) , i’m good with giving up mine.
Wonder what you all think. This should the “liberal” agenda, get rid of all guns. They need to stop disarming good hard working citizens while there’s still millions of firearms out there for the criminals who don’t give a shit about your control laws.

I am picking up all that you are placing down. I disagree with many parts though. I understand your Hypothetical, I do not think it is a reasonable one; someone will always find a way to have a gun even when none can be had. Hell, you can make them out of a few pieces of pipe.

But, even if your hypothetical could be attained, I do not like it. Multiple reasons.

First, The US can never be a Utopia of safeness. Our Demographics will not allow it. I wish things in regards to crime more like Denmark and Sweden; that will never happen.

Second, I am getting older by the day, not even close to over the hill at 52, but I am slower and less strong as I was a few years ago. I am slower than I once was.

The No guns allowed, if there is no metal detector, I am always armed. If I go to a football game, I will disarm to enter knowing that the playing field is a bit more level. Granted, I go no place that have these except government offices. Most local and County office buildings, I can still carry in. Federal installations, I cannot. I try to avoid those places.

There is evil that surrounds us. I do not feel that most people are overall good people. The evil is in all just waiting for the moment to pop off.

As for the part of the "communist soldiers (police)", they will always have guns and always should have guns.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

You could take away every weapon on the planet and people will still find ways to kill eachother.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yes. Your right. But do you really think Kathy Hochul knows the difference? They have no clue. It sounds to me like others. Remember these pols are illiterate when it comes to guns. Recall the muzzle brake debacle.

Brain thought... I wonder if she was actually talking about stripped lowers

 

[GOPerfect]

 

[SomeSoldier]

Can't argue with that statement.

 

[tirwin1]

I wonder. How many of you guys would agree with this:

Hypothetical: If we find a way to get rid of all guns… Whether that be a mandatory buy back, seizure, whatever. If it could happen. All guns gone including the uniformed oppressors can’t have guns anymore either. Would anyone here support that?

I’m a man’s man, I love nice cars, building shit with my hands, fishing, hiking and guns. I do however realize that fuck man even if i’m carrying, do I have to walk around with my head on a swivel everywhere I go and is it realistic? Can’t send your kids to the mall without a strapped bodyguard?

I don’t know man but I feel like this shit’s gonna get worse as more loser bitch-made men get raised everyday in this country by weak fathers who don’t wear the pants at home. The punks are breeding more punks. I think our culture of gun ownership will become unsustainable.

I’m ok going to the football game where everyone’s gotta go through the metal detector. What i’m not ok with is “no guns allowed honor system” like schools and any place with a sign that says no guns as if that’s not an invitation for the cowardly lunatic to go shoot unarmed people.

If nobody has a gun, including the communist soldiers (police) , i’m good with giving up mine.
Wonder what you all think. This should the “liberal” agenda, get rid of all guns. They need to stop disarming good hard working citizens while there’s still millions of firearms out there for the criminals who don’t give a shit about your control laws.

Did you have John Lennon 's song "imagine" playing in the background when you typed this?

 

[99cummins]

Like sticks and stones?

And words. Pretty sure the rest of the saying has been made null and void. Words do in fact hurt now.

 

[Deplorable Me]

For the media and general public with short attention spans who like smoke being blown up your asses. And fuck you Biden for going to Buffalo.

Accused NYC subway shooter pleads not guilty to terrorism, gun charges | CNN

Frank James, the man authorities say is behind the mass shooting inside a New York City subway that left dozens injured, pleaded not guilty Friday to the two charges he is facing.

www.cnn.com

 

[Acer-m14]

I wonder. How many of you guys would agree with this:

Hypothetical: If we find a way to get rid of all guns… Whether that be a mandatory buy back, seizure, whatever. If it could happen. All guns gone including the uniformed oppressors can’t have guns anymore either. Would anyone here support that?

I’m a man’s man, I love nice cars, building shit with my hands, fishing, hiking and guns. I do however realize that fuck man even if i’m carrying, do I have to walk around with my head on a swivel everywhere I go and is it realistic? Can’t send your kids to the mall without a strapped bodyguard?

I don’t know man but I feel like this shit’s gonna get worse as more loser bitch-made men get raised everyday in this country by weak fathers who don’t wear the pants at home. The punks are breeding more punks. I think our culture of gun ownership will become unsustainable.

I’m ok going to the football game where everyone’s gotta go through the metal detector. What i’m not ok with is “no guns allowed honor system” like schools and any place with a sign that says no guns as if that’s not an invitation for the cowardly lunatic to go shoot unarmed people.

If nobody has a gun, including the communist soldiers (police) , i’m good with giving up mine.
Wonder what you all think. This should the “liberal” agenda, get rid of all guns. They need to stop disarming good hard working citizens while there’s still millions of firearms out there for the criminals who don’t give a shit about your control laws.

just look at places overseas ... the LEO don't have guns in some places .. but will still gang up and beat you with a billy club ..

Look at Australia over the Covid Mask wearing . cops beating people .. ..

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

 

[spat]

Body armor is to protect. What if someone chooses to wear it for protection? How can laws force people to wear a seat belt or a helmet but not allow them to wear other means of protection?

Wait till you find out about suppressors/mufflers.

Mandatory on engines, forbidden on firearms.

 

[spat]

just look at places overseas ... the LEO don't have guns in some places .. but will still gang up and beat you with a billy club ..

Look at Australia over the Covid Mask wearing . cops beating people .. ..

Whatever his plan is to make them magically disappear, we should try it with drugs first.

 

[99cummins]

For the media and general public with short attention spans who like smoke being blown up your asses. And fuck you Biden for going to Buffalo.

Accused NYC subway shooter pleads not guilty to terrorism, gun charges | CNN

Frank James, the man authorities say is behind the mass shooting inside a New York City subway that left dozens injured, pleaded not guilty Friday to the two charges he is facing.

www.cnn.com

How do you fire off 33 rounds on a crowded train and only rack up 2 charges? Was this just a hearing for those 2 charges and there’s another hearing for the rest? They pull someone over with a little of the devils lettuce in the car and somehow end up with 15 charges.

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

I wonder. How many of you guys would agree with this:

Hypothetical: If we find a way to get rid of all guns… Whether that be a mandatory buy back, seizure, whatever. If it could happen. All guns gone including the uniformed oppressors can’t have guns anymore either. Would anyone here support that?

I’m a man’s man, I love nice cars, building shit with my hands, fishing, hiking and guns. I do however realize that fuck man even if i’m carrying, do I have to walk around with my head on a swivel everywhere I go and is it realistic? Can’t send your kids to the mall without a strapped bodyguard?

I don’t know man but I feel like this shit’s gonna get worse as more loser bitch-made men get raised everyday in this country by weak fathers who don’t wear the pants at home. The punks are breeding more punks. I think our culture of gun ownership will become unsustainable.

I’m ok going to the football game where everyone’s gotta go through the metal detector. What i’m not ok with is “no guns allowed honor system” like schools and any place with a sign that says no guns as if that’s not an invitation for the cowardly lunatic to go shoot unarmed people.

If nobody has a gun, including the communist soldiers (police) , i’m good with giving up mine.
Wonder what you all think. This should the “liberal” agenda, get rid of all guns. They need to stop disarming good hard working citizens while there’s still millions of firearms out there for the criminals who don’t give a shit about your control laws.

I'm not real keen on my wife having to throw hands with some 6'2 180lb man.

I'm not real keen on having to melee fight some dude who has a machete.

 

[maverick52]

Brain thought... I wonder if she was actually talking about stripped lowers

We will find out soon enough. Hopefully SCOTUS take notice and rules with such scrutiny that the safe act will be in jeopardy.

 

[holdover]

They pass knee jerking useless laws instead of looking at the root cause and addressing the problem of broken families, schools and society in general.

They know God dam well , that you cant stop evil with a gun law. These are not stupid people, they are lawyers, they have staffs, They have information. We're all brilliant, and they're stupid? We know guns laws dont work, they know gun laws dont work , the general public doesn't know . The objective here is clear as day, The disarmament of the people. Control. Power.

 

[Dr. Evil]

Let's see. What did this event accomplish? First, they will look to censor social media, you know, for hate speech. Promote the disinformation governance board so this never happens again. Next we will enact more gun control. Third, white supremacists are real and violent.

 

[SonOfSun]

You could take away every weapon on the planet and people will still find ways to kill eachother.

 

[Acer-m14]

Let's see. What did this event accomplish? First, they will look to censor social media, you know, for hate speech. Promote the disinformation governance board so this never happens again. Next we will enact more gun control. Third, white supremacists are real and violent.

but but they do that now .. LOL ..

 

[Dr. Evil]

but but they do that now .. LOL ..

They want it on hyper mode.

 

[zorro]

How do you fire off 33 rounds on a crowded train and only rack up 2 charges? Was this just a hearing for those 2 charges and there’s another hearing for the rest? They pull someone over with a little of the devils lettuce in the car and somehow end up with 15 charges.

and how do you fire 33 rounds in a crowded train and only injure people?

This is another shooting I find kind of strange

 

[Acer-m14]

How do you fire off 33 rounds on a crowded train and only rack up 2 charges? Was this just a hearing for those 2 charges and there’s another hearing for the rest? They pull someone over with a little of the devils lettuce in the car and somehow end up with 15 charges.

they cant count .. and the news can't either ..

Suspect in “shots fired” call apprehended with gun and drugs

:cowboy: https://midhudsonnews.com/2022/05/15/suspect-in-shots-fired-call-apprehended-with-gun-and-drugs/

nygunforum.com

 

[meketrefe]

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The big difference there is that average folks have a sense if duty, have some training and are designated with tasks.
Imagine any clueless folks out there thinking they are some sort of deputy for society wo preparation or standards.
In the middle of a confusion innocent people might shoot each other.

 

[Grimscale]

What is Horechuls end game by claiming over and over that the magazines must have come from PA since its only a few miles away?

Setting the stage for the Dems to try to make the unSAFE Act National.

And the reason to ban personal armor is so that the .gov can kill you whenever they want.

"They" don't want you to be able to defend yourself. "They" want total control.

 

[Celt]

I'd say use them even if he's home. Hypothetically speaking, I want the homeowner to have an advantage, "needed" or not. The whole point of a gun is to have an advantage. If a thief breaks into my home I don't want a "fair fight", it's real life not high noon in the town square. If a scumbag breaks into someone's home I honestly could give a shit if they waste the burglar. Don't want to get shot? Don't burglarize homes, it's really that simple.

Absolutely, I was just keeping my post short.

 

[livingston]

..

Document appears to show Buffalo shooter's planning including March trip to supermarket​

The 589-page document, which is separate from the 180-page hate-filled screed Gendron is alleged to have posted online just before the massacre, includes sketches of the supermarket, including the makeup of different aisles, with notes on how to navigate around quickly.

Law enforcement officials are investigating the document's origins and authenticity as they try to determine who may have had access to it.

MORE: Buffalo suspect had plans to continue his killing rampage: Commissioner
Sources tell ABC News that the document is a compilation of messages posted to the online community platform Discord starting in 2021.

According to the Washington Post, which was first to report on the document, it was uploaded to the file-sharing site MediaFire by an anonymous user on April 29, and was accessible until Monday. The document was deleted shortly after the Post contacted the platform for comment, the Post said.

On a conference call Tuesday with state and local partners, law enforcement officials said that Gendron began posting threads to Discord regarding body armor in the summer of 2021, according to a source familiar with the phone call. In April of 2022, the threads also taunted federal law enforcement, officials on the call said.

Document appears to show Buffalo shooter's planning including March trip to supermarket

Police say an online document obtained by ABC News appears to chronicle how accused Buffalo shooter Payton Gendron planned out his attack on a Buffalo supermarket.

abcnews.go.com

 

[livingston]

So folks we have this person writing a book planning this mass murder. ..How many people his age even ever write a 100 page essay ...Outside of Obama writing his life story at the age of 18...20?..Hard to believe he did this "book " almost 600 pages .. without help.