Massie is OUT!!
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spat
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Bring in a little heavy cream in a small bottle and tell them that's the new NY mandated sperm sample for your ammo background check.
Robin
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What?
Robin
Steal2B
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Who knows. Massie lost his primary to a candidate who was a Navy Seal on May 19th. I see nothing new from this guy's May 20th post. Looks like left overs.
Both main candidates in the Kentuky district 4 Republican Primary spent millions. One had the incumbent advantage and millions to spend, the other had Trump's endorsement and millions to spend. Both had outside PACs running ads.
I doubt "Jewish" PAC spending would matter much in a Kentucky 4 Republican primary. Kentucky district 4 has about one hundred voting age Jews in the entire district and it has likely only a dozen, if any, that are registered Jewish Republicans eligible to vote in that primary.
Back in May, voters in Kentucky 4 chose between the candidates on the ballot over the issues that they considered important. In all likely hood a major issue for Massie is he is a lazy campaigner and probably got worse over the years when he essentially ran unopposed. When I met Massie on the hill and in a social setting, I was not impressed. I did love Massies pro 2A stance and antics that made anti 2A libs enraged.
The main recent news concerning Massie I've noticed are stories about him replacing Mitch McConnell in the Senate.
Yeah and about 30 million from Foreign outsiders to make that happen. Massie won his last 3 primaries with 81%, 76%, and 75%
Dr. Simon (@goddek) on X
HOLY SHIT. Thomas Massie just laid out who is trying to buy his Kentucky seat, and it's not anyone who has ever set foot in Kentucky The guy won his last 3 primaries with 81%, 76%, and 75%. Now he's polling +1 because $10 MILLION in outside money is drowning the race. MASSIE: "95% of it has com…
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Steal2B
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Massie was the incumbent (ran essentially unopposed for last few cycles)Yeah and about 30 million from Foreign outsiders to make that happen. Massie won his last 3 primaries with 81%, 76%, and 75%
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Dr. Simon (@goddek) on X
HOLY SHIT. Thomas Massie just laid out who is trying to buy his Kentucky seat, and it's not anyone who has ever set foot in Kentucky The guy won his last 3 primaries with 81%, 76%, and 75%. Now he's polling +1 because $10 MILLION in outside money is drowning the race. MASSIE: "95% of it has com…x.com
and the voters knew his brand. Massie emphasized his voting on "principles over party" and the majority of the voters in Kentuky 04 emphasized they wanted someone else, especially after calling a decorated Navy Seal a coward.
Massie spent about 6 million on his campaign of "principles over party loyalty" and never Trumper outside groups, notably the Kentucky 4th PAC, deployed roughly another $6.7 million for Massie, with another $1 million spent by the Kentucky First PAC.
Massie did not lose because he was outspent, Massie lost because Kentucky 4th voters liked Trump and Gallrein more than Massie.
Massie spending $14 million dollars in Kentucky where he is known ... could not get over Trump backing the Navy Seal in the race.
The deep red Kentucky 04 was also disgusted by Massie ads depicting his decorated Navy Seal opponent as a coward. It was a huge tactical error for Massie's PAC to falsely depict his Navy Seal opponent (in AI-generated videos) as a coward and they did not include any disclosures that AI was used.
In contrast the ad showing Massie holding hands with AOC had disclosures of it being AI generated satire.
A Veteran's statement called the ad attacking Gallrein an “insult to all veterans” and called on Massie to apologize and take it down noting Gallrein is a retired Navy SEAL and Massie never served in the military.
“Gallrein continued to move to the sound of the guns for three decades yet Mr. Massie and his Democrat backers created his recent Disneyland AI cartoon to call a decorated combat veteran a coward and traitor,” said Col. Walter Herd of Simpsonville. “Creating such a made up lie is the act of cowardice and treachery that Mr. Massie's cartoon really highlights his own.”
With a known brand and 14 million dollars Massie could not convince Kentucky Republicans he was a better Republican candidate for Kentuky 04.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
We're so fucked. And this thread demonstrates it perfectly.
Most of the older, high propensity voter Republicans still side with Trump, the neocons, the elitists and MAGA.... YES - those four are now all in the same boat, 90% of the time.
The young and those more populist than right, don't vote as reliably. But they also aren't turning out because they feel betrayed. They realize that Trump is a different President this time around and different than he campaigned. He, and MAGA, have been co-opted; consumed by the swamp.
I just pissed off the majority of you. I don't have a prayer of convincing you that you're wrong. Like-wise, you'll never convince me that another war in the middle east is in America's interest, or that no one actually partook of Epstein's services, or that STILL supporting the Ukraine war is a good idea, or that we actually had the right to pluck the leader of a sovereign nation out his bed, or that purging dissenting party voices like Massie was the right course of action, or that we didn't really need any election reform, or deficit reduction, or...
And thus the fracture appears irreconcilable.
Republicans have lost the coalition that they had two years ago. They cannot win without the younger generations, the Hispanics, the populists - all of whom voted for Trump in historic numbers in '24. The Trump base is no where near large enough for that.
The Boomers are starting to die en masse. Their numbers will be halved in 10 years and they'll be irrelevant as a voting block in 20. The Republicans NEEDED to keep everyone they gained in '24, especially the younger generations. They have failed. TRUMP has failed.
Very few seem to realize that the western world, including America, is in the middle of a populist upheaval that isn't necessarily right-sided or left-sided. The Democratic Socialists (formerly known as the Democrats) will coax the populists and the young to their side by stressing the Republican's domestic in-actions and failures. If we're extremely lucky, their dominance will only last a decade or two.
The midterms will be a bloodbath. Keeping the Presidency in '28 will take a miracle or three.
Most of the older, high propensity voter Republicans still side with Trump, the neocons, the elitists and MAGA.... YES - those four are now all in the same boat, 90% of the time.
The young and those more populist than right, don't vote as reliably. But they also aren't turning out because they feel betrayed. They realize that Trump is a different President this time around and different than he campaigned. He, and MAGA, have been co-opted; consumed by the swamp.
I just pissed off the majority of you. I don't have a prayer of convincing you that you're wrong. Like-wise, you'll never convince me that another war in the middle east is in America's interest, or that no one actually partook of Epstein's services, or that STILL supporting the Ukraine war is a good idea, or that we actually had the right to pluck the leader of a sovereign nation out his bed, or that purging dissenting party voices like Massie was the right course of action, or that we didn't really need any election reform, or deficit reduction, or...
And thus the fracture appears irreconcilable.
Republicans have lost the coalition that they had two years ago. They cannot win without the younger generations, the Hispanics, the populists - all of whom voted for Trump in historic numbers in '24. The Trump base is no where near large enough for that.
The Boomers are starting to die en masse. Their numbers will be halved in 10 years and they'll be irrelevant as a voting block in 20. The Republicans NEEDED to keep everyone they gained in '24, especially the younger generations. They have failed. TRUMP has failed.
Very few seem to realize that the western world, including America, is in the middle of a populist upheaval that isn't necessarily right-sided or left-sided. The Democratic Socialists (formerly known as the Democrats) will coax the populists and the young to their side by stressing the Republican's domestic in-actions and failures. If we're extremely lucky, their dominance will only last a decade or two.
The midterms will be a bloodbath. Keeping the Presidency in '28 will take a miracle or three.
I'm sorry to all the Boomers out there but this is your legacy. You allowed our country to have it's blood & treasure spent around the world to the highest bidder & biggest liar. We agree our country went the wrong direction, yet here we are again with more wars. This is just one reason for any bloodbath.
Trump' Betrays His "No New Wars" Campaign Promise. #popular #news #politics
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AIPAC a Foreign Lobby, enough said!
If only the democrats had won; we could still be having homosexual everything again, wasn't that great! Then we could have completely lost America to illegal turd worlders and end up happy as comrades.
How quickly some forget.
How quickly some forget.
Steal2B
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Massie lost because he gave it away as the incumbent in a deep red district.
Kentucky 04 voters were oversaturated with ads so spending more by either candidate was long past the point of diminshing returns. Massie spent $14 million and might have done better if he spent nothing because his negative messaging turned off previous Kentucky 04 supporters.
Not a fan of foreign money flowing in to PACs but the AIPAC ad money did not cause Massie to lose and Massie's millions from China's TikToc did not help him because his campaign and message was wrong for Kentucky 04.
Massies dirty dishonest attack ads hurt him. Massie's "Principals over Constituents " and "Pricipals over Party" campaign strategy was a strategic blunder. Attacking Trump, attacking the Republican Party, and calling a decorated Navy Seal a coward will not win a Republican Primary.
BTW, Massie's PACs were full of out of district / State / Country money, and most of it had ties to China through billionaire TikToc investors. Weird huh.
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ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Sorry fresch, but this is a stupid argument. Most of us hate the vast majority of what the Dems stand for and try to implement. I wouldn't vote for a Dem for any reason because they are an existential threat to our country. But the voters who get us over 50% in most contested races don't necessarily have that same level of animosity toward the Dem platform. "Homosexual everything" isn't in the top five most pressing issues for voters as a whole. Depending on how you word it, it won't even break the top ten. This is NOT about whether we should have elected Kamala. This is a question of whether the Republicans that we DID elect are conducting business in a way that will keep our governing philosophy in power. Clearly, they are not.
We needed the deportations to keep going at a breakneck pace but Trump and his team couldn't manage the optics. They had to back off. By the way, this was in no small part due to the anti-ICE protests that were funded by some of the same people behind Gallrein's war chest.
Speaking of which, why did Massie face such a serious challenger in the first place? Because he went against Trump and Trump's establishment allies on some key issues. Campaigns like Gallrein's, against a popular incumbent, don't exist unless sanctioned by very powerful people. This notion that the voters chose Gallrein is naive - the Republican elites chose Gallrein before the first ad was even shot. Money DOES sway elections because there a lot of stupid, easily manipulated people. The right could have easily held that seat with a problematic but right leaning Massie. Instead of using that money to shore up any of a multitude of more vulnerable seats, they chose to purify the seat and install a political newbie who will do their bidding because he already owes them a huge debt. The Republican party needed to include those who were right leaning but disagreed on some things. This purification, this confounding of agreement with Trump and loyalty to Trump, serves only to shrink the party numbers and the party's power.
Guess what? The R's are gonna lose control of both the House and the Senate. Then they'll lose the Presidency. When the Senate convicts Trump, Vance will have an impossible hole to dig out of and no time to do it. It will crush his political future. In the end, we will have done nothing but piss away the biggest political advantage of our lifetime and allow "Democratic Socialism" to build influence and power. I haven't forgotten, I just see the situation more clearly.
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