Massive anti communist demonstrations taking place across Cuba 7/11/21

[Mosinitis]

There is a huge trail of people literally risking their lives to escape communism.


It is almost as large as the trail of ones risking their lives to get here.

You can try to pretend people are better off there than here, but the bodies suggest otherwise.

More Cubans risked and died for the revolution. Cuban revolution was a popular movement supported by huge numbers. Escapes from Cuba aren't.
They are proud of their heritage and its iconic figures, too fucking bad it upsets those who lost.

 

[GOPerfect]

The ones who escaped to Florida helped us get Trump instead of Hillary in 2016.

Not all help you receive is obvious.

I lost near all of my empathy many years ago, sure some cubans voted for Trump, awesome. I just do not care what others go through.

If they want change, good for them; I hope they get what they need and want. I will spend my time, my energy and my thoughts to what is important to me. The situation in Cuba is not an issue that I care about.

I'm not doging on them because they want change or that they are protesting; good for them. If citizens of the US want to help, again, good for them.

 

[meketrefe]

Ellan the poster child of 'la revolucion'.

I take it not everyone has been able to travel and speak to these people in the privacy of their homes and on the streets.

The facade of the communist propaganda and indoctrination machine is leaking everywhere even in china so imagine trying to make this BS system credible in cuba, literally 5 swimming strokes from the keys.

 

[GOPerfect]

Ellan the poster child of 'la revolucion'.

I take it not everyone has been able to travel and speak to these people in the privacy of their homes and on the streets.

The facade of the communist propaganda and indoctrination machine is leaking everywhere even in china so imagine trying to make this BS system credible in cuba, literally 5 swimming strokes from the keys.

I hope you are not taking my posts on this to be insulting. Not my intention.

I wish the people of Cuba the best. They need to find their true freedoms and their full ways of life.

With my Country in the down spin, I do not have enough in me to care about other Nations right now.

I do not wish them more pain and horrible living conditions, exact opposite, I hope they are successful in their push for a better future.

I see so many here in the US, all of a sudden rooting for the Cubans; people that have been silent for the past forty tears or so.

 

[meketrefe]

Redistribution is great until you have to share with thugs and lazy people

 

[Robin]

The revolution was a popular movement, but most did not get what they revolted for and they paid a heavy price for it as Fidel, Raul, and Che murdered hundreds of thousands of them that could not escape..
Robin

 

[spat]

More Cubans risked and died for the revolution. Cuban revolution was a popular movement supported by huge numbers. Escapes from Cuba aren't.
They are proud of their heritage and its iconic figures, too fucking bad it upsets those who lost.

It's always like that with communism.

Lots of people fall for the empty promises, but when they find out what it really is, then they are stuck with it. Kinda like Bernie Madoff investors.

Tell me again, what's the ratio of people risking their lives to escape Cuba vs the ones trying to get in ?

 

[tirwin1]

It's always like that with communism.

Lots of people fall for the empty promises, but when they find out what it really is, then they are stuck with it. Kinda like Bernie Madoff investors.

Tell me again, what's the ratio of people risking their lives to escape Cuba vs the ones trying to get in ?

This x 1,000. The apologists for these regimes always seem to overlook that fact.

 

[tirwin1]

BY STEPHEN GREEN JUL 20, 2021 11:11 AM ET

To Insanity Wrap, living in a one-party state that squashes dissent, tortures political prisoners, maintains a stranglehold on virtually all economic activity, can’t keep its own people fed, cuts off communication with the outside world at will, and only achieved a halfway decent standard of living (on the S***hole Country Scale) when it was suckling the Soviet teat, is a high price to pay for “free” health care.


Free health care that sucks, Bee-Tee-Dub.

The fact that Cuba is a miserable totalitarian state where life is good for the nomenklatura and borderline starvation for everyone else is not a secret to anyone, not even to Progressives.

Especially not to Progressives.

It’s a classic bait-and-switch.

The Left baits with free stuff, but delivers misery.

We’re lucky — so far — that the “best” Presidentish Joe Biden has been able to deliver is inflation, unsustainable spending and debt, and the political repression of a few hundred January 6 rioters, most of whom don’t seem to have done much or any actual rioting.

But they’re working on establishing a “kinder, gentler” form of repression, as the current big push for effective Democratic political control of social media proves.

So when “some” Progressives (find me one who doesn’t agree with Cuba) say they admire Cuba’s health care system, what they’re really saying is they admire the Communist regime’s total control over the once-prosperous island nation they socialized into destitution.

And when Insanity Wrap says “they admire,” we really mean “they envy.”

 

[kev74]

Lift the embargo. Shove your supreme values up your ass and let Cuban people chart their own future. These Freedom games are getting old. The world has changed and is a lot smarter. There is a huge trail of people's suffering caused by pushers of Supreme Values in Washington. It's well publicized and known in the world.

I don't think lifting the embargo is going to help as much as you think.

Cuba is trading freely with almost everyone but us.

Their tourism industry is healthy.

Unfortunately the island doesn't produce much more than cigars.

 

[spat]

BY STEPHEN GREEN JUL 20, 2021 11:11 AM ET

To Insanity Wrap, living in a one-party state that squashes dissent, tortures political prisoners, maintains a stranglehold on virtually all economic activity, can’t keep its own people fed, cuts off communication with the outside world at will, and only achieved a halfway decent standard of living (on the S***hole Country Scale) when it was suckling the Soviet teat, is a high price to pay for “free” health care.


Free health care that sucks, Bee-Tee-Dub.

The fact that Cuba is a miserable totalitarian state where life is good for the nomenklatura and borderline starvation for everyone else is not a secret to anyone, not even to Progressives.

Especially not to Progressives.

It’s a classic bait-and-switch.

The Left baits with free stuff, but delivers misery.

We’re lucky — so far — that the “best” Presidentish Joe Biden has been able to deliver is inflation, unsustainable spending and debt, and the political repression of a few hundred January 6 rioters, most of whom don’t seem to have done much or any actual rioting.

But they’re working on establishing a “kinder, gentler” form of repression, as the current big push for effective Democratic political control of social media proves.

So when “some” Progressives (find me one who doesn’t agree with Cuba) say they admire Cuba’s health care system, what they’re really saying is they admire the Communist regime’s total control over the once-prosperous island nation they socialized into destitution.

And when Insanity Wrap says “they admire,” we really mean “they envy.”

They admire the equality Cubans have.

Yep, everyone except a few elite are equally poor and oppressed. Yay.

Lucky for them they aren't prosperous, because then someone else might be even more prosperous.


Only a leftist would rather everyone live in equal grinding poverty than live in a society with a vibrant middle class and a few billionaires.

 

[meketrefe]

They admire the equality Cubans have.

Yep, everyone except a few elite are equally poor and oppressed. Yay.

Lucky for them they aren't prosperous, because then someone else might be even more prosperous.


Only a leftist would rather everyone live in equal grinding poverty than live in a society with a vibrant middle class and a few billionaires.

Cubans are truly fucked. Poor people.

 

[nortatoga]

@Mosinitis am I right that you came to this Country as a child with your parents or as a young man on your own? If so why??

 

[Mosinitis]

@Mosinitis am I right that you came to this Country as a child with your parents or as a young man on your own? If so why??

I came here to tell people what they want to hear.

 

[Mosinitis]

Funny how no one cares about lives of people in non-communist Latin American shit-holes, who have it much worse. Cuba won, get over it. Even when they move to market economy, they will always praise their revolution and Fidel.

 

[Mosinitis]

I believe that there is no country in the world, including the African regions, including any and all the countries under colonial domination, where economic colonization, humiliation and exploitation were worse than in Cuba, in part owing to my country's policies during the Batista regime. I believe that we created, built and manufactured the Castro movement out of whole cloth and without realizing it. I believe that the accumulation of these mistakes has jeopardized all of Latin America. The great aim of the Alliance for Progress is to reverse this unfortunate policy. This is one of the most, if not the most, important problems in America foreign policy. I can assure you that I have understood the Cubans. I approved the proclamation which Fidel Castro made in the Sierra Maestra, when he justifiably called for justice and especially yearned to rid Cuba of corruption. I will go even further: to some extent it is as though Batista was the incarnation of a number of sins on the part of the United States. Now we shall have to pay for those sins. In the matter of the Batista regime, I am in agreement with the first Cuban revolutionaries.

— U.S. President John F. Kennedy, interview with Jean Daniel, 24 October 1963[108]

Cuban Revolution - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[spat]

Funny how no one cares about lives of people in non-communist Latin American shit-holes, who have it much worse. Cuba won, get over it. Even when they move to market economy, they will always praise their revolution and Fidel.

If they would vote republican when they got here like the Cubans do you would see some massive changes in how they are perceived.

 

[GOPerfect]

So, I think my biggest issue with all of this?

All of this is happening everywhere.

We have cities burning, Europe is taking to the streets. Britain is unhappy. Seems like everywhere is in turmoil/

Earlier today, I spoke with a friend in Norway; they are miserable as well.

Cuba is just one more unhappy nation on Earth.

Seems like all peoples are upset with their governments.

 

[Mosinitis]

So who is going to tell JFK, to go back to Ireland. Even I didn't go that far.

 

[holdover]

Nails it!