Minneapolis Police Choke an Unarmed Handcuffed Man to Death

[GOPerfect]

This is just one comment. Many others like it. People like this cannot be reasoned with.



Another



These people don't want justice. They are just angry and hateful. Many are profoundly racist. One referred to white people as demons in the same comments. Where are these people learning this?

I would never find myself in the position of this officer....

If for some reason this was happening to me and they were tossing threats like this out about my home and my family. And, if they acted upon these threats, I am already going to jail... Nothing to lose, I would be defending my home against all invaders.

 

[Airborneguy]

Don’t be so sure. This guy fully deserves what is happening (not his family though), but the way things are now you could easily find yourself in a similar situation for lawful police work should the wrong people paint your incident the wrong way.

This is why actively policing is stupid now. Get to a desk!

 

[GOPerfect]

Yeah, I get what you are saying....

 

[Celt]

He let his ego get to him. He wasn’t just going to stop because they were yelling at him to. He remained there to spite the onlookers.

Exactly.

 

[spat]

This is why actively policing is stupid now. Get to a desk!

It's what the public wants. It's much easier and safer for you guys, and you get paid the same either way.

I'm not sure why all cops aren't doing it, and I suspect that a large number of the ones who aren't are in the profession for the wrong reasons.

 

[Celt]

people have started going to his house.

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This guy deserves to be charged with a crime, but his family should not be targeted like this. Thats not cool.

 

[holdover]

My friends and I were all in agreement last night that he will likely find a way to kill himself.

That would be the honorable thing to do.

 

[holdover]

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[Jem45472]

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And the last paragraph tells it all.

"A perfect storm is brewing across America's inner cities of extreme wealth inequality, record-high unemployment, an economic crash, hatred towards cops, and months of lockdowns. All there needed to be was a trigger to ignite the unrest, that trigger could be the death of George Floyd."

 

[holdover]

The media always has to throw gas on the fire.

 

[ApexerER]

I haven't read all the comments yet.....I have always sided with the police in these matters. To me, they need to make split second decisions that are often times at least in their mind at the time, life and death. I also think its pretty simple, you don't run from the police or fight with the police and you don't have a problem. Now, this is very hard (from the video) to side with that police officer. I have little doubt that at some point between the two video's, that this guys starting resisting. But once a guy is in handcuffs and on the ground, it shouldn't be that difficult to get him in the car...I doubt that officer got up that morning hoping to kill someone. Seems like totally improper training and he had to know he was being video taped.

 

[Toecutter]

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This guy deserves to be charged with a crime, but his family should not be targeted like this. Thats not cool.

agreed

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

Seriously makes me so mad.

What does AutoZone or any of the other private business have to do with what happened.

Nothing.

People are behaving like out of control savages who cant control their emotions and tempers and don't know who to lash out at. Completely unrelated people are now victims with their livlihoods ruined.

Well done Minneapolis

 

[Airborneguy]

He'll be charged with a crime. As has been said a million times over, there are a lot of legal reasons why deaths don't immediately result in arrests on the spot, especially police-involved incidents which may involve legal justifications. This one very likely does not fit that mold, but that has to be proven correctly and legally just like any other crime. Police-involved crimes are investigated even more carefully so that the process is not viewed as flawed by non mouthbreathers.

 

[Jem45472]

I haven't read all the comments yet.....I have always sided with the police in these matters. To me, they need to make split second decisions that are often times at least in their mind at the time, life and death. I also think its pretty simple, you don't run from the police or fight with the police and you don't have a problem. Now, this is very hard (from the video) to side with that police officer. I have little doubt that at some point between the two video's, that this guys starting resisting. But once a guy is in handcuffs and on the ground, it should be that difficult to get him in the car...I doubt that officer got up that morning hoping to kill someone. Seems like totally improper training and he had to know he was being video taped.

I don't know about improper training, the guy is a 19 year veteran. He's just one of the idiots with a complex. He deserves what's coming, along with the others for not giving him a nudge and saying that's enough.

 

[Blimey]

Seriously makes me so mad.

What does AutoZone or any of the other private business have to do with what happened.

Nothing.

People are behaving like out of control savages who cant control their emotions and tempers and don't know who to lash out at. Completely unrelated people are now victims with their livlihoods ruined.

Well done Minneapolis

"as police stand down"

And that's why this barbaric behavior has become normalized. "We're mad at <insert topic>, so we're going to burn businesses and steal shit."

 

[Mr. terzmo]

This incident puts LEO's on a dangerous path as that crowds may gather during an arrest and for whatever reason decide the Officer is acting improperly so they participate in freeing the arrestee and possible harm to arresting officer. I don't like a lot of the future for You youngster's out there

 

[Modean]

I haven't read all the comments yet.....I have always sided with the police in these matters. To me, they need to make split second decisions that are often times at least in their mind at the time, life and death. I also think its pretty simple, you don't run from the police or fight with the police and you don't have a problem. Now, this is very hard (from the video) to side with that police officer. I have little doubt that at some point between the two video's, that this guys starting resisting. But once a guy is in handcuffs and on the ground, it should be that difficult to get him in the car...I doubt that officer got up that morning hoping to kill someone. Seems like totally improper training and he had to know he was being video taped.

Unfortunately this was far from a split second decision. The officer had his knee on the neck of the deceased for a good 8 minutes. Plenty of time to realize that it was a bad call, or for the other officers on the scene to intervene. All four of these guys are guilty.

 

[fresch]

"Law dog don't go round here!"
When you feel/see the "man" coming down on your people harder for the same "crime" than others, then you feel backed into a corner. "Crime" due to political not constitutional reasons, many "laws" are unlawful.
Look at it like guns at what point will you fight back?
As to looting, pent up rage and opportunity; still wrong. Yet this is what the media, schools, government are teaching; what do you expect?

 

[Marine Cpl]

Here’s the thing. Cops do not leave their house with pure intentions of fucking people over. Maybe one in a few hundred do because there are actual people out there with mental issues that somehow become cops but the overwhelming majority (I would say 99 percent) do not.

But what seems to be a big problem is that when a situation happens, ego gets in the way. And when that ego does get in the way, surrounding cops let it happen because of the whole blue line BS and everything that comes along with it. It’s preached at daily musters everyday. You have to support each other. It’s us vs them. The only person that has your back is your fellow officer. Ect. And unofficially even if wrong it is known that you just have to back up your fellow officer.

I see it all the time at 1st amendment and 2nd Amendment audits and at car stops all the time on YouTube. A citizen whether he’s an asshole or not says something the cop doesn’t like, and the partner or responding officers just stand there and let him continue rather than ordering him (Yes you can order someone of the same rank) to step back because they “Got this.” That rarely happens.

They end up standing there letting the other preach wrong information about recording laws, letting illegal orders to turn cameras off stand, or in some instances, actually letting the other get physical because he is not standing far enough away from police with a camera despite SCOTUS rulings or despite state laws that allow you to open carry and it is clear that the open carrier is not a criminal.

They let the violation happen without pulling the officer to the side and taking over for fear of what will be said in locker rooms by himself and others.

That’s clearly what happened here. No one said anything to him. They let him continue spiting the onlookers because they aren’t supposed to make him look bad. A man died because of it and put their own lives in danger.

All this BS needs to stop. Unless there is an actual crime being committed in your presence that you can actually see, do nothing. Stop fishing for crimes. If you pull someone over for speeding, give them a ticket. Don’t search anything that you cannot see. If someone appears with a camera, ignore them unless they are too close and really impeding you. If someone looks to be legal and open carrying, respond if called and write on your report that the suspect gave no name and no obvious crime was committed according to state laws and the belief that the suspect was not a prohibited person based on the interaction. If one of your officers doesn’t do this and let’s ego get involved, stop him.

Enough already. We are tired of this BS. Collect your paychecks, write a speeding ticket despite getting a faint odor of marijuana, and be on your way. Your life and your family’s life is worth more than whatever asshole or loud mouth is on the street. You aren’t making the world a better place buy locking someone up for weed or selling loose cigarettes or harassing an open carrier or stopping someone from recording you or fishing to see if perhaps you can find an unregistered .380 in the trunk of a car from a non licensed person.

Just write the damned ticket and that’s it. No breaks. Be on your way. Tell the asshole to have a nice day and go home at night. We do not want active policing.

 

[ApexerER]

I don't know about improper training, the guy is a 19 year veteran. He's just one of the idiots with a complex. He deserves what's coming, along with the others for not giving him a nudge and saying that's enough.

Yup, I said right in my post that from the video, that police officer makes it very hard to defend him.....Why I mentioned his training is because, if he knew he was doing something improper, why would he continue to do it on video.....I am only speculating obviously....

 

[Blimey]

Here’s the thing. Cops do not leave their house with pure intentions of fucking people over. Maybe one in a few hundred do because there are actual people out there with mental issues that somehow become cops but the overwhelming majority (I would say 99 percent) do not.

But what seems to be a big problem is that when a situation happens, ego gets in the way. And when that ego does get in the way, surrounding cops let it happen because of the whole blue line BS and everything that comes along with it. It’s preached at daily musters everyday. You have to support each other. It’s us vs them. The only person that has your back is your fellow officer. Ect. And unofficially even if wrong it is known that you just have to back up your fellow officer.

I see it all the time at 1st amendment and 2nd Amendment audits and at car stops all the time on YouTube. A citizen whether he’s an asshole or not says something the cop doesn’t like, and the partner or responding officers just stand there and let him continue rather than ordering him (Yes you can order someone of the same rank) to step back because they “Got this.” That rarely happens.

They end up standing there letting the other preach wrong information about recording laws, letting illegal orders to turn cameras off stand, or in some instances, actually letting the other get physical because he is not standing far enough away from police with a camera despite SCOTUS rulings or despite state laws that allow you to open carry and it is clear that the open carrier is not a criminal.

They let the violation happen without pulling the officer to the side and taking over for fear of what will be said in locker rooms by himself and others.

That’s clearly what happened here. No one said anything to him. They let him continue spiting the onlookers because they aren’t supposed to make him look bad. A man died because of it and put their own lives in danger.

All this BS needs to stop. Unless there is an actual crime being committed in your presence that you can actually see, do nothing. Stop fishing for crimes. If you pull someone over for speeding, give them a ticket. Don’t search anything that you cannot see. If someone appears with a camera, ignore them unless they are too close and really impeding you. If someone looks to be legal and open carrying, respond if called and write on your report that the suspect gave no name and no obvious crime was committed according to state laws and the belief that the suspect was not a prohibited person based on the interaction. If one of your officers doesn’t do this and let’s ego get involved, stop him.

Enough already. We are tired of this BS. Collect your paychecks, write a speeding ticket despite getting a faint odor of marijuana, and be on your way. Your life and your family’s life is worth more than whatever asshole or loud mouth is on the street. You aren’t making the world a better place buy locking someone up for weed or selling loose cigarettes or harassing an open carrier or stopping someone from recording you or fishing to see if perhaps you can find an unregistered .380 in the trunk of a car from a non licensed person.

Just write the damned ticket and that’s it. No breaks. Be on your way. Tell the asshole to have a nice day and go home at night. We do not want active policing.

This is true, but...

Consider you're a cop with a partner dealing with somebody and 10-20 people are around you. If there is any hint whatsoever by the crowd that your partner does not support you (and remember in most cases they should be because you're acting fine), crowd might smell weakness. or you go to a domestic dispute incident and instead of a guy seeing 2-3 cops all on the same page he sees one arguing with the other over something.

What I'm saying is the fact police pathologically do not equivocate creates problems like we saw here, but is also necessary in most situations to ensure a clear message to people they are dealing with.

 

[Marine Cpl]

This is true, but...

Consider you're a cop with a partner dealing with somebody and 10-20 people are around you. If there is any hint whatsoever by the crowd that your partner does not support you (and remember in most cases they should be because you're acting fine), crowd might smell weakness. or you go to a domestic dispute incident and instead of a guy seeing 2-3 cops all on the same page he sees one arguing with the other over something.

What I'm saying is the fact police pathologically do not equivocate creates problems like we saw here, but is also necessary in most situations to ensure a clear message to people they are dealing with.

There are many different ways to handle this and each situation is obviously different. But to say that another officer cannot deescalate a situation for the most part is false. In your scenario maybe it cannot be done easily but it always can. For the most part, you do not have unruly mobs surrounding you.

 

[meketrefe]

How many one bad apples do we need to toss the bushell out?

With 7.5 B. people on the planet we will have A LOT of EVERYTHING everywhere.

 

[Celt]

There are many different ways to handle this and each situation is obviously different. But to say that another officer cannot deescalate a situation for the most part is false. In your scenario maybe it cannot be done easily but it always can. For the most part, you do not have unruly mobs surrounding you.

The partner could have said "ok, lets stand him up now" and it would not have looked like weakness to the public, and it wouldnt look like he was undermining his partner.

Im sure they didnt intend to kill this guy, he died due to arrogance, imo. Either way, regardless of intent, paid agitators and protestors are going to make a mess of things.

 

[Saltwater60]

Seriously makes me so mad.

What does AutoZone or any of the other private business have to do with what happened.
Assholes. I get protesting or picketing but this goes too far as it most likely always does.
Nothing.

People are behaving like out of control savages who cant control their emotions and tempers and don't know who to lash out at. Completely unrelated people are now victims with their livlihoods ruined.

Well done Minneapolis

 

[holdover]

Now they are going to have to deal with the aftermath of their own rage. Unlike before, you cant just go a store nearby to get your stuff because they are mostly closed due to the scamdemic.Now they are going to have travel miles away to get the things they need which means busses, and Ubers if they re still even running. Under the circumstances of the economy, these places may not rebuild for a long time, if at all.

That's why we cant have nice things.

 

[spat]

Now they are going to have to deal with the aftermath of their own rage. Unlike before, you cant just go a store nearby to get your stuff because they are mostly closed due to the scamdemic.Now they are going to have travel miles away to get the things they need which means busses, and Ubers if they re still even running. Under the circumstances of the economy, these places may not rebuild for a long time, if at all.

That's why we cant have nice things.

They will burn down the auto zone, then complain that it's racist that they won't sell autoparts in their neighborhood.

 

[Steal2B]

 

[Grimscale]

Load up and protect what is yours!

Shhhh
you'll bring out the "it's just stuff" people again. The ones who don't think protecting the things you've worked for is right.