Modern Progressivism is Communism (socialism)aka big gov controls everything

[Celt]

Yesterday’s Communist Is Today’s Progressive

There are plenty of links that can be found about this, but this is a change that the communist party changed themselves because of the negative connotation to the word communism.

We have to stop these morons!

 

[spat]

Progressive sounds so good, who doesn't want progress....

Until you realize that to make progress you need a goal to make progress toward. If the goal is bad, then progress toward it is bad.

If you're on a train and the bridge is out ahead, progress down the track is *not* what tou want.

 

[GOPerfect]

Just like the American Communist of yesteryear, these Progressives have no idea what they are doing.

They do not understand what they are about or what their movement really means.

Completely clueless morons!

 

[GOPerfect]

Some may think that me and my kind are wrong for thinking and feeling the way I/we do, but I'll tell you one thing, I fully understand why I think and feel the way that I do. I explain, rationally, everything that I stand for and why I do.

I guarantee these fools cannot make that claim!

 

[Celt]

The progressive idiots want free healthcare, free handouts, they want government to control everything and guarantee them jobs. They are anti religion, and they want to force feed sexual perversions on moral people, they control the schools and the mefia snd stiffle free speech when it goes against there agenda, they want no guns yet advocate for violence against gun owners. They want to irradicate the white race by forcing interbreeding, they want no borders and globalism. They are irrational, illogical, and incapable of comprehending reality.

 

[livingston]

As Leonard Peikoff in The Ominous Parallels writes, students today are “brainwashed into feeling that their minds are helpless and they must adapt to ‘society’, that there is no absolute truth and that morality is whatever society says it is.

Here is an example
College student kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders
Indiana University of Pennsylvania student, Lake Ingle, was barred from class for speaking as a man and refuting his professor's claims. (Lake Ingle)

A religious studies major was barred from Christianity class at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for saying during class that there are only two genders.



Lake Ingle, a senior at the university, said he was silenced and punished by IUP Professor Alison Downie for questioning her during a Feb. 28 “Christianity 481: Self, Sin, and Salvation” lecture.
College student kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders

 

[Phazer]

Question: What is a Socialist?

Answer: A patient Communist.

 

[ProgSpear]

The progressive idiots want free healthcare, free handouts, they want government to control everything and guarantee them jobs. They are anti religion, and they want to force feed sexual perversions on moral people, they control the schools and the mefia snd stiffle free speech when it goes against there agenda, they want no guns yet advocate for violence against gun owners. They want to irradicate the white race by forcing interbreeding, they want no borders and globalism. They are irrational, illogical, and incapable of comprehending reality.

Actually, everything you mention above is a feature of “progressivism”, not a bug. These are all tactical elements used to destroy any foundational opposition to their control. Just a single example: the Boy Scouts have adopted the gay agenda. Why? Because it erodes what had been one of the strongest moral influences on young men outside of the nuclear family. Just one element of the overall attack on our future, the kids.

 

[Celt]

ive posted this video several times over the years but for anyone who hasnt seen it the reality of it is startling.

 

[Grimscale]

"Progressivism is the support for or advocacy of improvement of society by reform. As a philosophy, it is based on the Idea of Progress, which asserts that advancements in science, technology, economic development, and social organization are vital to the improvement of the human condition."

Unfortunately Progressivism has been usurped by the Socialists and Communists in their effort to eliminate "income equality", basically taking money away from one class and giving it to other classes, and their efforts to control people and resources. Similar to how Conservatism has been usurped by those who seek to turn the world into a Theocracy and gather all under the umbrella of their religion.

Both sides have given up on the idea of basic human Rights and freedoms as they try to dominate the known world.

Both need to just GO AWAY!

 

[Mosinitis]

Actually communism has nothing to do with progressive movement, they overlap in some areas and clash in the others. This is why progressives don't give a fuck when you call them communists, because it is so much off the mark.
The world has changed. The two camps opposing each other are globalists and traditionalists (patriots). Globalists believe in one world order, traditionalists believe in preservation of traditional culture, sovereignty and allowing the same for other nations.

 

[Celt]

Actually communism has nothing to do with progressive movement, they overlap in some areas and clash in the others. This is why progressives don't give a fuck when you call them communists, because it is so much off the mark.
The world has changed. The two camps opposing each other are globalists and traditionalists (patriots). Globalists believe in one world order, traditionalists believe in preservation of traditional culture, sovereignty and allowing the same for other nations.

I disagree on the first part, they absolutely have something to do with each other with countless overlapping goals. The c9mmunists of old have "evolved" into todays progressives.

The second part is true, the world is full of globalists and nationalists.

 

[Mosinitis]

I disagree on the first part, they absolutely have something to do with each other with countless overlapping goals. The c9mmunists of old have "evolved" into todays progressives.

You knowledge is based on what? How many classes of world history did you have in school, in college? Did you every read Das Kapital? What knowledge do you have beyond partisan talking points and labels that are casually thrown around?

 

[Darth]

Actually communism has nothing to do with progressive movement, they overlap in some areas and clash in the others. This is why progressives don't give a fuck when you call them communists, because it is so much off the mark.
The world has changed. The two camps opposing each other are globalists and traditionalists (patriots). Globalists believe in one world order, traditionalists believe in preservation of traditional culture, sovereignty and allowing the same for other nations.

Communism is an economic policy.

Progressivism is a social policy.

 

[Robin]

International communism has been, and remains their goal, you can call them globalists but a pig is still a pig no matter how you dress it up. Why do you think they called their anthem "The Internationale". When the wall came down and the soviet Union broke up, I guess all those dedicated communists both there and here just threw up their hands and said wow comrade we were wrong all along. HAH!
Robin

 

[Mosinitis]

Communism is an economic policy.

Progressivism is a social policy.

Although Communism is socioeconomic policy, the difference comes down to this.

 

[Celt]

M6

You knowledge is based on what? How many classes of world history did you have in school, in college? Did you every read Das Kapital? What knowledge do you have beyond partisan talking points and labels that are casually thrown around?

My degree is in criminal justice so classes in history/economics was limited, and study of government, social control, physchology, sociology, criminology, criminal justice systems, policing, courts, etc was the primary focus

For someone as smart and technical as yourself on the subject matter at hand they may seem like night and day, but to the average American that sees how they are both pushing for big govermental control, big social programs from A-Z, disarming the citizenry. Etc... they are more similar than they are different.

Now, Ive read (like everyone else) the differences and similarities between communism, socialism, progressivism, etc... perhaps the thread title should say socialism is todays progressivism.

What I believe is that the (democratic) socialists have highjacked the modern progressive party to make it about economic AND social change. Again, im not an expert on the topic as you seem to be. Im just a common American looking at how people that call themselves progressives have been pushing socialist policies and trying to destroy the traditional American system of capitalism.

 

[Mosinitis]

Trump wouldn't have won a number of blue states without support from labor. Neocons who were very vocal about less government in our lives were for our government controlling the world. These are only a few examples why red-scare is no longer relevant in today's world.

 

[wdeister08]

Here is an example
College student kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders
Indiana University of Pennsylvania student, Lake Ingle, was barred from class for speaking as a man and refuting his professor's claims. (Lake Ingle)

A religious studies major was barred from Christianity class at Indiana University of Pennsylvania for saying during class that there are only two genders.



Lake Ingle, a senior at the university, said he was silenced and punished by IUP Professor Alison Downie for questioning her during a Feb. 28 “Christianity 481: Self, Sin, and Salvation” lecture.
College student kicked out of class for telling professor there are only two genders

Downie accused the conservative libertarian student of “disrespectful objection,” “refusal to stop talking out of turn,” “angry outbursts in response to being required to listen to a trans speaker discuss the reality of white male privilege and sexism,” and “disrespectful references to the validity of trans identity and experience.”

Sounds like it was more than just "he spoke" sounds like he couldnt or wouldn't shut up.

 

[Celt]

Trump wouldn't have won a number of blue states without support from labor. Neocons who were very vocal about less government in our lives were for our government controlling the world. These are only a few examples why red-scare is no longer relevant in today's world.

The real threat to our freedom is globalism, which encompasses progressivism, and socialism.

 

[libertysnake]

I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again.

Socialism doesn’t work because it denies human nature. It denies the human lust for power, and the drive towards natural competition.

You cannot remove these elements without removing the drives that make us human. We cooperate BECAUSE we are selfish, according to Hobbes, not because we are selfless.

 

[Celt]

I’ve said it once, and I’ll say it again.

Socialism doesn’t work because it denies human nature. It denies the human lust for power, and the drive towards natural competition.

You cannot remove these elements without removing the drives that make us human. We cooperate BECAUSE we are selfish, according to Hobbes, not because we are selfless.

Exactly, that's why gun control laws also don't work, because you cannot control human nature. Evil will always exist just like good. And an evil person will always do evil things regardless of what laws exist.