Moving to NY, can I make my handguns inoperable until I get my permit?

[NewNewYorker]

I am moving to New York and was wondering what I should do with my handguns. I previously read that I will need a permit simply to own them. But after doing more research I found this thread which references a bunch of cases that a handgun without a firing pin or with a damaged firing pin is inoperable and therefore legal to possess. They even link the jury instructions to prove this point.

Should I just leave my firing pins or other parts which render the handgun operable out of state until I get my permit? I heard the process there takes a year or two and I am moving within a few months.

 

[timboy]

I wouldn't risk it!

 

[Marine Cpl]

Once you get that permit, you'd still have to drive out of state to ship them back in. You can't just restore them. There's a process to get them on your permit which requires FFL receipts.

 

[MilesTeg]

The problem you have is NY has a permit system. After you receive your permit you would need to add the guns to it. Not many FFLs would take the pistols and do the paperwork for the scenario you posted. Your best be is to leave them with a relative and have them shipped in when you get your permit to an FFL. Sorry for the bad new N.Y. sucks.

 

[Edwardteach72]

You would have to render them permanently inoperable, and there is a very specific way that can be done and doing so makes it so they can never be operable again.

Not having a firing pin doesn't mean anything, just like you can' just bring in your glock frame with no slide and say you are good to go since it is still a handgun

 

[96coal449]

Don't move to NY. A lot of us would rather move out. Save yourself!
If you have to move here bring lots of ammo ...... and grenades .......

 

[Exonautic]

I am moving to New York and was wondering what I should do with my handguns. I previously read that I will need a permit simply to own them. But after doing more research I found this thread which references a bunch of cases that a handgun without a firing pin or with a damaged firing pin is inoperable and therefore legal to possess. They even link the jury instructions to prove this point.

Should I just leave my firing pins or other parts which render the handgun operable out of state until I get my permit? I heard the process there takes a year or two and I am moving within a few months.

What county?

 

[GOYABEAN]

my condolences @NewNewYorker not because of moving to NYS but for having too deal with wanna be king who needs

 

[C3D]

Correction to most of the above posts. There is no such thing as a pistol permit in New York; we have pistol licenses.

 

[FLA45fan]

Having recently moved back to NY I have endured this process.
First, do not bring your guns into NY yet!
Second, get your permit. They are issued by the county, so head to the local permit office for details. In most cases you will be required to take a course, fill out the form, get fingerprinted, and then wait. My county took me 4 months, the next county over it's up to 18 months! Your current out of state permit will NOT cover you at this time.
Third, your guns MUST be shipped from an out of state FFL to your local FFL. You CANNOT bring them in to a NY FFL. You cannot ship them yourself by UPS, FedEx or USPS. They may NOT have magazines that allow over 10 rounds and any high capacity (regular capacity) may not be brought into the state unless they have been permanently altered to accept only 10 rounds.
At that time you will be issued paperwork on YOUR guns that you take to the permit office, where they are added to your permit.
Finally, go back to the FFL, do a background check and finally pick up your guns.

Simple, isn't it? Welcome to the Empire (Strikes back) State.
I came back four years ago to what I thought was my favorite place in the world. I'm now hoping to be out of here by summer . . .

 

[livingston]

I am moving to New York and was wondering what I should do with my handguns. I previously read that I will need a permit simply to own them. But after doing more research I found this thread which references a bunch of cases that a handgun without a firing pin or with a damaged firing pin is inoperable and therefore legal to possess. They even link the jury instructions to prove this point.

Should I just leave my firing pins or other parts which render the handgun operable out of state until I get my permit? I heard the process there takes a year or two and I am moving within a few months.

The county you move to also has a lot to do with the speed you get that license .At times 10-15 miles one way or another can make a world of difference by getting into the right county.

 

[Robin]

Some counties require references that you have know for three years or more, and live in the county of application.
Robin

 

[livingston]

Some counties require references that you have know for three years or more, and live in the county of application.
Robin

Ya .. what a fucked up state

 

[dwa12479]

Pistol transfers have to come from the FFL in your home state to an FFL here in the Peoples Republic of New Yorkistan. My brother is going through the same thing moving from EL Paso, TX to Watertown, NY. I'll be holding his guns until he gets his NYS permit.

If there is an FFL in the area that you're moving to, they may be willing to hold them for you.

 

[MoMan]

I don't know whether to: or
Where are you moving from, and WHY NYS?? If you're moving from CA, I can understand. If you're moving from ANY of the Free United States of America, I ask again; WHY NYS??!!

 

[99cummins]

Let us know the county you are moving to. While the process is still the same, getting your permit is a less painful process in some counties. And although it shouldn’t, the process of getting a permit varies greatly from county to county.

If you can find an FFL local to where you are moving to hold your pistols that would be good. Even better might be if you know someone with a N.Y. permit that could get them on their permit until you get yours in order. Still have to go through the FFL regardless.

And welcome to NY. Bend over.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

Only way to get your pistols in your permit is by a ny FFL.

FFL must fill out a p12 for every gun bought and sold. This asks where the gun came from.

It is illegal to accept a gun from a nyer without it being on their permit.

So no, you can not do what you want. I think they need to be permanently inoperable to posses without a permit.

I doubt any ny ffl will get involved. I wont.

 

[togmaster]

NO!!!

Welcome to New York.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

If there is an FFL in the area that you're moving to, they may be willing to hold them for you.

If you can find an FFL local to where you are moving to hold your pistols that would be good. Even better might be if you know someone with a N.Y. permit that could get them on their permit until you get yours in order. Still have to go through the FFL regardless.

I would never do this. 1 year + is simply too long to let someone else have control of your guns. Alot can happen in that time. FFLs close. And then what?! I suppose you would have to transfer them to another FFL or something but the more guns move and switch hands the more chance there is for things to happen. Just like paperwork. Your best bet would be to leave them with a relative or I would even put them in self storage before I left them at an FFL that long. But your absolute best bet is to not even move there.

 

[ManrisFrack]

I don't think it's been said here, but NYC is very different from the rest of the state. It'll be much more difficult and time consuming - especially with multiple guns (to include long guns because those must be registered in NYC as well).

 

[Doc8404]

I am moving to New York and was wondering what I should do with my handguns. I previously read that I will need a permit simply to own them. But after doing more research I found this thread which references a bunch of cases that a handgun without a firing pin or with a damaged firing pin is inoperable and therefore legal to possess. They even link the jury instructions to prove this point.

Should I just leave my firing pins or other parts which render the handgun operable out of state until I get my permit? I heard the process there takes a year or two and I am moving within a few months.

That thread is full of “full retard”

 

[swilliams]

I don't think it's been said here, but NYC is very different from the rest of the state. It'll be much more difficult and time consuming - especially with multiple guns (to include long guns because those must be registered in NYC as well).

That's a good point. NYC has its own set of rules. We used to have an active member here who was pretty much an expert on NYC and its regulations and permit process, but I haven't seen him post here in ages. If the OP is moving to NYC, I'll pm the guy and he might be able to reach out to you.

 

[99cummins]

I would never do this. 1 year + is simply too long to let someone else have control of your guns. Alot can happen in that time. FFLs close. And then what?! I suppose you would have to transfer them to another FFL or something but the more guns move and switch hands the more chance there is for things to happen. Just like paperwork. Your best bet would be to leave them with a relative or I would even put them in self storage before I left them at an FFL that long. But your absolute best bet is to not even move there.

Good points. I know a couple FFL’s so I might be a bit more comfortable with the idea. But coming in blind not knowing anyone is different. Leaving them out of state with a trusted person may be best.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Good points. I know a couple FFL’s so I might be a bit more comfortable with the idea. But coming in blind not knowing anyone is different. Leaving them out of state with a trusted person may be best.

When I first moved back to PA (for the final time) I went to a local gunshop to peruse the inventory. Had a conversation with the owner and went on my way. About 3 weeks later come to find out he was shot and killed by his wife. He seemed nice enough but apparently it was self defense and this guy was a really bad dude. Had I chose to do say a transfer shortly before he was killed and it was in his shop before I could come pick it up it would have been a mess getting that gun. Crazy shit happens man.