Broken gun? Are you suggesting the cop lie now too? So not only risk job punishment, but jail too because some boob couldn’t look up the laws before he left the country?
Nebraska man arrested for felony charges of possessing a loaded hand gun in a vehicle.
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Broken gun? Are you suggesting the cop lie now too? So not only risk job punishment, but jail too because some boob couldn’t look up the laws before he left the country?
Marine Cpl
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Did the cop take an oath? Either he refuses to arrest or he breaks the gun rendering the arrest not valid.
That’s why I say a cop can never support and defend the constitution.
Lol
If the courts rule that something is Constitutional, and an American does not agree, is it still Constitutional?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yeah. LOL. It's unfortunate but it's true.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The 2nd is written in plain English. We all know what it says.
meketrefe
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Only Inspector Callahan can do that!
Slavery was also spelled out pretty clear in the Constitution as well.
I am not disagreeing per say...
Marine Cpl
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And it was changed. Just like you say, they can do the same with the 2nd.
BDinPutnam
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Celt
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Legally, yes.. Morally, it depends. Unfortunately you be be arrested for breaking the law.
Is the unsafe act Constitutional? Id say absolutely not, but we all know that the courts have become politicized.
spat
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The constitution means what it says and not what it doesn't. It doesn't matter who tries to claim otherwise.
Just like it doesn't matter what the legislature and courts say, women don't have penises and men don't have vaginas.
The truth exists regardless of whether anyone or even everyone accepts it or not.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Yep. It says what it says and only an idiot would think that if we were still 13 colonies today trying to break away and George Washington was still alive, he would want us to only have bolt guns instead of semi automatic and full automatic for the disposal of a government and no ability to conceal carry for personal self defense.
The 2nd says what it says despite what a corrupt court says it means. Law enforcement like to ignore this and continue to trash the rights of the citizenry while lying to themselves to feel better about what they are doing. Either that or they are extremely ignorant.
I used to have discretion.
Then I got issued a body camera, that captures everything.
So no. There is no more discretion.
Marine Cpl
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spat
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You need to ask yourself how bad it has to get before you just resign.
Because it's headed in a direction where you will have to eventually make that choice.
And if you don't draw a line in the sand that you aren't willing to cross, you will one day find yourself way past any line you would have drawn today and trying to justify your actions to yourself.
Uninformed and Compliant
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You've just said there is no level of evil you won't commit for the sake of a pension.
Careful, son.
The People demanded cops wear cameras, not the cops. Although now I 100% see them as more of a benefit to us than anyone else.
Discretion is still available, but the situations where it can be used are much more limited, and largely driven by what the civilian says in the encounter.
Over 10 years ago, I stopped a PA driver who was probably slightly intoxicated. He was about 100 yards past a highway entrance that would have taken him in a direct line across Brooklyn, Staten Island, NJ and into PA. He immediately blurted out that he had a gun in the glove box. I made him make a u-turn, get on the highway, and (hopefully) drive straight home. Nowadays? That’s on camera and no dumbass with loose lips is costing me my career. Call me whatever you want. I don’t care.
Discretion is still available, but the situations where it can be used are much more limited, and largely driven by what the civilian says in the encounter.
Over 10 years ago, I stopped a PA driver who was probably slightly intoxicated. He was about 100 yards past a highway entrance that would have taken him in a direct line across Brooklyn, Staten Island, NJ and into PA. He immediately blurted out that he had a gun in the glove box. I made him make a u-turn, get on the highway, and (hopefully) drive straight home. Nowadays? That’s on camera and no dumbass with loose lips is costing me my career. Call me whatever you want. I don’t care.
Marine Cpl
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It is what it is. Career over oath. No sugar coating it to make it sound palatable or adding extra words to make it sound worse. If you aren’t willing to arrest him now due to body cameras, some other skell will so why not you?
It’s a bad position to be in. The same choices were made in Germany.
I couldn’t care less what happens if he runs into anyone else. I care about what is on the camera attached to my chest that you demanded I wear. I care about ME getting arrested/fired.
You can equate it to whatever you want. We’re not talking about proactive work here. This entire incident was predicated on the actions of the citizen, the cop had zero input.
As to the poster above who said we’re choosing evil... When the time comes, I’ll defend my life extremely violently.
You can equate it to whatever you want. We’re not talking about proactive work here. This entire incident was predicated on the actions of the citizen, the cop had zero input.
As to the poster above who said we’re choosing evil... When the time comes, I’ll defend my life extremely violently.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You are deliberately missing the point. At what point will you say the camera be damned? Because right now it isn’t some guns or whether someone is carrying without a permit. At what point is your pension not worth what is being done to the citizenry? Semi automatics? Revolvers? Bolt? Muzzleloaders?
I’d explain but its pointless, so cliff notes. If YOU put me in the position, I have no reasonable limit (I’m not going to address gas chambers and stuff because that’s just stupid). If discretion is available because YOU didn’t say or show something stupid while the camera was rolling, then I will act how I have always acted.
Try for once to keep a discussion tied to the issue at hand: this idiot crossed and international border at a crossing that led to a state that he either knew better already or easter smart enough to spend 10 minutes checking laws before doing so, and you’re demonizing the random cop who got dispatched at the behest of a federal agent.
Yeah, sorry. If YOU put me in that position with your stupidity, I’d arrest you, your mother and your dog and sleep soundly that night.
Try for once to keep a discussion tied to the issue at hand: this idiot crossed and international border at a crossing that led to a state that he either knew better already or easter smart enough to spend 10 minutes checking laws before doing so, and you’re demonizing the random cop who got dispatched at the behest of a federal agent.
Yeah, sorry. If YOU put me in that position with your stupidity, I’d arrest you, your mother and your dog and sleep soundly that night.
Marine Cpl
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Then that explains it. There is no limit for you when it comes to guns. Maybe gas chambers I’m hoping is your limit but since that isn’t the issue at hand, we’ll stick to the issue at hand.
Guns aren’t a limit for you. You will not resign or refuse an arrest for a gun with the camera rolling. Am I correct?
I knew it was pointless.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
How so? It is a simple question. What is your limit?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
You can say pointless all you want to dodge the question but anyone reading can see that you are dodging the question.
You intentionally removed the culpability of the idiot who caused the incident to re-interpret what I said. I know you did it on purpose, I’m not going to call you stupid. I expect the same respect.
Marine Cpl
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Forget about the idiot. If tomorrow they ban all semiautomatics here in NY and some idiot gets caught with one, will you arrest him for your pension?
My answer above actually fully addressed any analogy you can create here.
You’re smart enough to know that you cannot back me into a corner. Re-read above without playing games and you’ll get your answer. You don’t have to accept it, I understand that, but the answer is there.
You’re smart enough to know that you cannot back me into a corner. Re-read above without playing games and you’ll get your answer. You don’t have to accept it, I understand that, but the answer is there.
Marine Cpl
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I’m not playing games. If you really think that then there is something wrong with you. It’s a simple question that you refuse to answer on what is your limit with the cameras rolling.
You call this guy an idiot. He’s an idiot today. Will I be an idiot tomorrow if I get caught with a Glock in New Jersey or Washington DC?