Not sure what to call this thread... Carry EVERYWHERE. Good guy with a gun in a barber shop.
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Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
1. Thanks, I already do.
2. I don't often wear an orange cape when I do.
3. Watch him go to prison for manslaughter for shooting him in the back.
2. I don't often wear an orange cape when I do.
3. Watch him go to prison for manslaughter for shooting him in the back.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Not saying I abhor his response, just my current faith in the justice system.
MothMan
.338 Win Mag
Got my locks quaffed this past Wednesday. There as a G27 OWB at 4:30 and at 9:00 a spare magazine.
spat
.950 JDJ
Shouldn't need a badge for that.
The guy looked like he was getting ready to execute that chick. Good shoot all day.
Carlos Hathcock
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I'm pretty sure he did.
spat
.950 JDJ
The cop wouldn't know if she would survive when he fired. But he knew she sure as hell wouldn't if he didn't.
The way she was moving on the floor it looks like she might have ducked and be alright.
spat
.950 JDJ
Looks like this wasn't just limited to the barber shop.
It also sounds like one of the barbers was killed, but it doesn't sound like it was the one giving the cop his haircut, so he may have saved her life.
www.baltimoresun.com
www.police1.com
It also sounds like one of the barbers was killed, but it doesn't sound like it was the one giving the cop his haircut, so he may have saved her life.
Off-duty police officer getting haircut shoots 38-year-old man suspected for Saturday shooting spree that left two dead
An off-duty police officer getting a haircut Saturday afternoon shot and killed a 38-year-old man who police say burst into the East Baltimore shop and shot a barber to death. On Monday morning, police identified Carlos Ortega as the man…
www.baltimoresun.com
Off-duty cop getting a haircut kills gunman who opened fire on barber
A suspected killer burst into the shop and fatally shot an employee, police said. Coincidentally, a Baltimore cop was getting a trim
www.police1.com
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I think that the murdered barber in the article is actually the "girl" seen in the video. The barber probably just had long hair.
spat
.950 JDJ
Could be she was a he, but the article said the murdered barber was not the who cutting his hair.
Not sure if that was someone out of frame of the camera, or the article is poorly written.
Looks like they have an update and have named the dead barber.
spat
.950 JDJ
The guy killed in the barbershop the video was taken in (Raphael Jeffers) was the owner.
The pictures people have identified of him don't *look* like the girl in the video, unless he really grew out his hair.
But it is hard to say.
The pictures people have identified of him don't *look* like the girl in the video, unless he really grew out his hair.
But it is hard to say.
I didn't post that he was an off-duty cop because he was special. I posted it just as a late fact in the story. Anybody getting their haircuts could have done the same and they would get in no trouble either.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
Even though justified would a "normal" citizen get crap for shooting in the back....He Obviously was protecting the people their but just wondering of/if anything would come out of shooting a perp in back...it a perfect justified scenerio just presenting the question.........
I was facing away from him as he was walking to Execute the lady. I did what I had to do.........
I was facing away from him as he was walking to Execute the lady. I did what I had to do.........
fnfalguy
.308 Win
Your funeral I guess.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
Agreed I think it was good shoot too.........he was about to do no good either way.........
spat
.950 JDJ
I didn't think you meant the badge made a difference in the level of justification. But it may make a huge difference in the response from the justice system (even though it shouldn't).
I think Kyle Rittenhouse, and a string of others have proven the "wouldn't get in any trouble at all" thing is false. Depends on the DA and the politics, but a CCW in the same situation could see himself dragged into court over this.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
stayed calm and kept the gun out of sight until safe to deploy, good shoot
spat
.950 JDJ
Almost makes you want to wear that barber smock everywhere LOL.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Bottom line: If it is appropriate for police to carry concealed when off duty, then it is appropriate for all of us to do the same.
I hope one day we have National Reciprocity so I am able to carry everywhere.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
The cop did great. He reacted quickly neutralizing the threat, had great situational awareness, said call the police, rolled the guy over, checked the door again, and said don’t move.
the only problem I could see arising is he didn’t ID as a cop, but he wasn’t at that point and he didn’t render aid. Some police departments are requiring that now from what I understand. All in all a great shoot and a great example of what should happen. Too bad the other guy died, but a POS aid dead now that killed three others.
the only problem I could see arising is he didn’t ID as a cop, but he wasn’t at that point and he didn’t render aid. Some police departments are requiring that now from what I understand. All in all a great shoot and a great example of what should happen. Too bad the other guy died, but a POS aid dead now that killed three others.
spat
.950 JDJ
Nobody should be attempting to render aid when the tactical situation is that uncertain.
The last thing you want to do is have your hands busy applying a tourniquet when this guys buddies burst through the door to finish the job.
I agree with rendering aid, but first you need to secure the scene. Just like you wouldn't start first aid inside a burning building.
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
According to some here, he should have gone down the street, got a cup of joe, let it play out and not get involved.
Robin
Robin
repete
.338 Win Mag
And the first to receive aid would be the innocent victim, the shooter would be last.
dwa12479
.338 Win Mag
Good shoot all day, no question. The "shot in the back" scenario is irrelevant. He was still a threat when shot. If he had left the shop and was running away down the sidewalk and was shot in the back, then yes.. it could be a considered a bad shoot But that's not the case here. Scumbag got what he had coming, and well done from the off duty cop (who could have been ANY one of us here on the forum without a badge..) for doing the right thing and taking down a scourge of society.