Not sure what Trump is thinking. This is going to backfire on him.

[Snappo]

The women in the briefing room were shocked that they could be forced to room with a "female" that has a penis. That had to be the funniest part of my briefing.

Please tell me it wasn't LGBT sensitivity training; because you might have failed it with that above post. You do know that being trans and on HRT means their penis doesn't even work; right? Those women in your briefing might just as well have been afraid of trans women with skin tags or hemorrhoids.

 

[holdover]

Nobody knew what Trump would or will do, Its a crap shoot. We knew what that criminal Hillery would do,We would have troops in Syria right now , for one.

Comparing trump to Hitler is over the top , comparing Jews to Trannys is insulting to Jews to say the least. You should really stop using that anology its childish .

 

[holdover]

why do you keep trying to frame this around religion when your the only one who reference's it? people have stated their reasons and I haven't seen one person who said anything about a bible.

 

[Snappo]

Wrong? Hell that's why I voted for him! Wrong is jepordizeing mens lives and the future of this country in a social experiment .

This whole government was an experiment. Nobody's lives are jeopardizes by cis or trans women in the military. Why have 7,000 nukes and the 2 largest air forces on the planet (along with more aircraft carriers than the rest of our enemies combined) if you have to worry about losing a war because one out of every three hundred soldiers identify as female? There are over a million people in our military and what - 3 or 4 thousand transgendered folks? Even if you don't want to knock in doors with a trans person; there is no reason to think they are not capable of doing non-infantry jobs. This whole thing Trump is doing is political to suck the dicks of the religious right. Some sort of favor for that religious fanatic Pence. Those fuckwits just keep pointing to this 3,500 year old hearsay story and demanding that the LGBT crowd be put in concentration camps and exterminated.

 

[holdover]

""Nobody's lives are jeopardizes by cis or trans women in the military"""

says you ,because your ass isn't in a hole 200 yards away from the border faceing North Korea right now.

 

[Snappo]

why do you keep trying to frame this around religion

Are you kidding me? This is 100% ALL about religion. Pence has Trump's ear and thinks god is telling him to do a cleansing. Pence refers to LGBT being against what god wants every time the subject comes up. He is an extremist.

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Mike Pence's Blatant Anti-LGBT Extremism Completely Ignored In Debate | HuffPost

 

[holdover]

""This whole thing Trump is doing is political to suck the dicks of the religious right.""

Or maybe its because his generals found it to be to much of hassle and waste of money to have special treatments for certain soldiers, maybe they find them to be to risky in a combat zone .

 

[holdover]

Are you kidding me? This is 100% ALL about religion. Pence has Trump's ear and thinks god is telling him to do a cleansing. Pence refers to LGBT being against what god wants every time the subject comes up. He is an extremist.

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Mike Pence's Blatant Anti-LGBT Extremism Completely Ignored In Debate | HuffPost

prove it.

 

[Snappo]

""Nobody's lives are jeopardizes by cis or trans women in the military"""

says you ,because your ass isn't in a hole faceing North Korea right now.

Nope. It's not. But I spent my time and did my deployments just like any other old fart. I earned the right to drink beer and tell lies. I was at King Saud for Desert Shield and Desert Storm, and in Italy for El Dorado Canyon. I'm pretty sure wondering if anyone in our squadron had a pussy instead of a dick was the last thing on our minds. We just wanted to live and worried if the MOPP suits would work. This trans paranoia is 100% the fault of the religious right that owns the White House and tells Trump where to shit and when to roll putty balls.

 

[holdover]

I asked you to prove it . I don't see anything about religion here

 

[Snappo]

""This whole thing Trump is doing is political to suck the dicks of the religious right.""

Or maybe its because his generals found it to be to much of hassle and waste of money to have special treatments for certain soldiers, maybe they find them to be to risky in a combat zone .

Then why was the trans population already in the military not a problem in Afghanistan or Iraq? Trans folks have served with distinction in our present wars.

Here are just a few of the trans soldiers who keep your dumb ass alive, Donald Trump

Transgender Air Force Staff Sergeant Slams Trump’s Service Ban: He ‘Is Doing This Country an Injustice’

 

[Snappo]

prove it.

I did. Try again.

 

[holdover]

I must have missed it, provide some quotes so I know what the hell your talking about.

 

[holdover]

Then why was the trans population already in the military not a problem in Afghanistan or Iraq?

How are you so sure it wasn't?

 

[Snappo]

I must have missed it, provide some quotes so I know what the hell your talking about.

You haven't missed it. You just don't look at the dozens of links I keep posting. Pence said he would do this before he even got elected.

9 of Mike Pence's most controversial stances regarding gay rights, abortion and smoking

 

[Snappo]

Then why was the trans population already in the military not a problem in Afghanistan or Iraq?

How are you so sure it wasn't?

Because if it was; Trump and Pence would have used that. Fake news would be all over that shit on both the left and right, spin doctoring to their heart's delight. Trans news sells right now.

 

[holdover]

No actually Id did , I didn't find anything pertaining to religion, I might have missed something, but I don't see anything religious there at all . you said it was 100% religious related and I cant find 1% of it.

 

[Snappo]

No actually Id did , I didn't find anything pertaining to religion, I might have missed something, but I don't see anything religious there at all . you said it was 100% religious related and I cant find 1% of it.

Check it again. Pence said he and Trump were going to repeal the work Obama did to give equal rights to LGBT folks; and said God first, country second, party third. He also ranted for hours on Christian marriage and the fall of USA due specifically to gay marriage (speech was in Congress) and in one of those links was the entire transcript of his speech. If you think there is a media conspiracy to twist Pence's many statements on LGBT and his anti-LGBT voting record where he opposed equal rights for Trans; you are being dishonest or disingenuous.

 

[holdover]

I asked to you to give me a quote not your interpretation .

and who the fuck is Pence?

 

[GOPerfect]

I am not going to read all of the responses to this. I will add my thoughts though.

He is not saying that the LGBTQ2's cannot join the Military. He will accept men and women. He will not allow people who are men to join saying they are women and visa versa. He is saying that we need to train our fighting men and women to win wars, not Political Statements. He is saying that if you are going to join, you will join as a normal. He does not want to waste time and resources fighting a PC war within the Military. You wanna play the games of what's under the dress, play them somewhere else. The Military is not a toy to play social games.

 

[holdover]

"""you are being dishonest or disingenuous""

No actually Im asking you to prove what you said :

""Are you kidding me? This is 100% ALL about religion"""

"""This trans paranoia is 100% the fault of the religious right that owns the White House and tells Trump where to shit and when to roll putty balls.""

I asked you to provide any specific quotes and you didn't. Now either you have them or you are full of shit which is it?

 

[GOPerfect]

I was going to say the same thing. Actually I always do.

Why gay, leabian and bisexual people allow the trans to be included is beyond me. And while we're on the topic, what the hell is "queers" separate from the rest?

By the end of the decade, I bet 5 more letters get added to that nonsense.

Why is Gay and Lesbian separate? They are the same?

 

[holdover]

Im a Lesbian trapped inside a mans body

 

[GOPerfect]

And...

GRS is a joke. The entire premise behind is fraudulent. Just because a man chops off his dick will NEVER make him a woman. Ever! He will always be a dude, granted, a dude with no dick. It is impossible to take a man and make him a full women. Same goes for a woman becoming a full fledged man. It is not at all possible. Ever. No matter what drugs and extra body parts that are added or chopped off can not change a sex.

 

[GOPerfect]

Oh, I am all for this. GO TRUMP!

 

[holdover]

"After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow...Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming...victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you." -Donald Trump

On June 30, Mattis extended the July 1 deadline to next Jan. 1, saying the services should study the impact on the "readiness and lethality of our forces."Defense Secretary Jim Mattis has ordered a review of all the administrative and training requirements that prevent trigger pullers and pilots alike from focusing on warfighting.

 

[Acer-m14]

i'm glad i didn't have flat feet , or heard voices in my head or had weird allergies when i joined the military ..
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[Doc8404]

Please tell me it wasn't LGBT sensitivity training; because you might have failed it with that above post. You do know that being trans and on HRT means their penis doesn't even work; right? Those women in your briefing might just as well have been afraid of trans women with skin tags or hemorrhoids.

The penis still works you moron. How do you think they piss? Out of their belly button?

Someone that isn't blocked please quote me!

 

[spat]

This whole government was an experiment. Nobody's lives are jeopardizes by cis or trans women in the military. Why have 7,000 nukes and the 2 largest air forces on the planet (along with more aircraft carriers than the rest of our enemies combined) if you have to worry about losing a war because one out of every three hundred soldiers identify as female? There are over a million people in our military and what - 3 or 4 thousand transgendered folks? Even if you don't want to knock in doors with a trans person; there is no reason to think they are not capable of doing non-infantry jobs. This whole thing Trump is doing is political to suck the dicks of the religious right. Some sort of favor for that religious fanatic Pence. Those fuckwits just keep pointing to this 3,500 year old hearsay story and demanding that the LGBT crowd be put in concentration camps and exterminated.

You hit the point, the military doesn't *need* the couple thousand trans people who want to join, and supporting them, in any capacity, is more trouble than they are worth.

It's really that simple. You are talking about rights and equality, but the question is how do those few people make the military a better fighting force ?

The answer is, unless one of them is the next Patton, they don't.

 

[Doc8404]

You hit the point, the military doesn't *need* the couple thousand trans people who want to join, and supporting them, in any capacity, is more trouble than they are worth.

It's really that simple. You are talking about rights and equality, but the question is how do those few people make the military a better fighting force ?

The answer is, unless one of them is the next Patton, they don't.

That sums it up.