NRA lawsuit against NY gets thrown out

[Acer-m14]

what are we even bitching about .. the links here to info is like reading NYSP and MidHudsonNews reports ..

is this over The NRA Carry Guard insurance program ?? if so then why are all the other carriers that did the same not renewing for NY ..

 

[Edwardteach72]

https://nypost.com/2015/08/03/planned-parenthoods-pathetic-3-percent-lie/

Holy shit wait its supposedly 3% as well hahaha I just pulled that number out my ass as another jab at the nra

 

[Carlos Hathcock]

Gun owners who wish death upon the NRA boggle my mind. 98% of people (including gun owners) aren't privy to the failed leadership, bungled policies, misappropriation of funds etc etc of the NRA, so if it were to fail, all it would mean to them is validation that they're idiotic musings were right. "See, the courts agreed with us. The NRA was brought down! They WERE evil. Guns ARE bad, and SHOULD be banned! We have the moral high ground." And you know what THAT does? It emboldens them fuckers, and that will exponentially sway popular opinion. Careful what you wish for. The downfall of the NRA, regardless of their efficacy isn't good for any of us. At least with the NRA there's a bogeyman that the antis can focus on while the real pro 2A groups get the real work done.

Sorry, but I have to agree here. With the unprecedented horseshit that's going down in this state & country wishing the NRA's destruction is like Custer kicking someone out of the regimen because he doesnt like his haircut. Many have their opinions on the NRA's recent transgressions sand I'm not thrilled with them either but for fuck's sake, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. We need all the help we can get from every organization...national, state, local town, church group, gun club, sewing circle. whatever or whoever wants to take a stand for the 2A and our country. Every last one of em.

 

[Darth]

This is just like saying, "Fuck that liberal cocksucker in my county who got arrested for a safe act violation for having a thumbhole stock. I hope he loses the case and his appeal to the Circuit Court and becomes precedent."

Some people here can't think more than one step ahead.

When that liberal cocksucker is a Fudd that would not only do nothing if you got attested, but would steal money from you and beg for more, yeah , fuck him.

 

[nortatoga]

Can anyone pick a year that would have been good for a challenge of NYS gun laws? Remember that Pataki signed the first AW ban in 2000 and Safe-Act was 2013!

Here is a list of Judges on the 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals.

59 Chief Judge Robert Katzmann New York, NY 1953 1999–present 2013–present — Clinton
50 Circuit Judge Dennis Jacobs New York, NY 1944 1992–present 2006–2013 — G.H.W. Bush
53 Circuit Judge José A. Cabranes New Haven, CT 1940 1994–present — — Clinton
55 Circuit Judge Rosemary S. Pooler Syracuse, NY 1938 1998–present — — Clinton
63 Circuit Judge Peter W. Hall Rutland, VT 1948 2004–present — — G.W. Bush
64 Circuit Judge Debra Ann Livingston New York, NY 1959 2007–present — — G.W. Bush
66 Circuit Judge Denny Chin New York, NY 1954 2010–present — — Obama
67 Circuit Judge Raymond Lohier New York, NY 1965 2010–present — — Obama
68 Circuit Judge Susan L. Carney New Haven, CT 1951 2011–present — — Obama
69 Circuit Judge Christopher F. Droney Hartford, CT 1954 2011–present — — Obama
70 Circuit Judge Richard J. Sullivan New York, NY 1964 2018–present — — Trump
71 Circuit Judge Joseph F. Bianco Central Islip, NY 1966 beg. 2019 — — Trump
72 Circuit Judge Michael H. Park New York, NY 1976 beg. 2019 — — Trump
39 Senior Circuit Judge Jon O. Newman Hartford, CT 1932 1979–1997 1993–1997 1997–present Carter
40 Senior Circuit Judge Amalya Lyle Kearse New York, NY 1937 1979–2002 — 2002–present Carter
43 Senior Circuit Judge Ralph K. Winter Jr. New Haven, CT 1935 1981–2000 1997–2000 2000–present Reagan
48 Senior Circuit Judge John M. Walker Jr. New Haven, CT 1940 1989–2006 2000–2006 2006–present G.H.W. Bush
51 Senior Circuit Judge Pierre N. Leval New York, NY 1936 1993–2002 — 2002–present Clinton
52 Senior Circuit Judge Guido Calabresi New Haven, CT 1932 1994–2009 — 2009–present Clinton
56 Senior Circuit Judge Chester J. Straub inactive[4] 1937 1998–2008 — 2008–present Clinton
57 Senior Circuit Judge Robert D. Sack New York, NY 1939 1998–2009 — 2009–present Clinton
60 Senior Circuit Judge Barrington Daniels Parker Jr. New York, NY 1944 2001–2009 — 2009–present G.W. Bush
61 Senior Circuit Judge Reena Raggi Brooklyn, NY 1951 2002–2018 — 2018–present G.W. Bush
62 Senior Circuit Judge Richard C. Wesley Geneseo, NY 1949 2003–2016 — 2016–present G.W. Bush
65 Senior Circuit Judge Gerard E. Lynch New York, NY 1951 2009–2016 — 2016–present Obama
Vacancies and pending nominations[edit]
Seat Prior Judge's Duty Station Seat last held by Vacancy reason Date of vacancy Nominee Date of nomination
9 New York, NY Dennis Jacobs Senior status May 31, 2019[5] – –
3 Hartford, CT Christopher F. Droney June 30, 2019[6] – –

 

[nortatoga]

The rest of the list!

List of former judges[edit]

# Judge State Born–died Active service Chief Judge Senior status Appointed by Reason for
termination
1 William James Wallace NY 1837–1917 1891–1907[Note 1] — — Arthur retirement
2 Emile Henry Lacombe NY 1846–1924 1891–1916[Note 2] — — Cleveland retirement
3 Nathaniel Shipman CT 1828–1906 1892–1902 — — B. Harrison retirement
4 William Kneeland Townsend CT 1849–1907 1902–1907 — — T. Roosevelt death
5 Alfred Conkling Coxe Sr. NY 1847–1923 1902–1917 — — T. Roosevelt retirement
6 Henry Galbraith Ward NY 1851–1933 1907–1921[7] — 1921–1924 T. Roosevelt retirement
7 Walter Chadwick Noyes CT 1865–1926 1907–1913[7] — — T. Roosevelt resignation
8 Henry Wade Rogers CT 1853–1926 1913–1926 — — Wilson death
9 Charles Merrill Hough NY 1858–1927 1916–1927 — — Wilson death
10 Martin Thomas Manton NY 1880–1946 1918–1939 — — Wilson resignation
11 Julius Marshuetz Mayer NY 1865–1925 1921–1924 — — Harding resignation
12 Learned Hand NY 1872–1961 1924–1951 1948–1951 1951–1961 Coolidge death
13 Thomas Walter Swan CT 1877–1975 1926–1953 1951–1953 1953–1975 Coolidge death
14 Augustus Noble Hand NY 1869–1954 1927–1953 — 1953–1954 Coolidge death
15 Harrie B. Chase VT 1889–1969 1929–1954 1953–1954 1954–1969 Coolidge death
16 Charles Edward Clark CT 1889–1963 1939–1963 1954–1959 — F. Roosevelt death
17 Robert P. Patterson NY 1891–1952 1939–1940 — — F. Roosevelt resignation
18 Jerome Frank NY 1889–1957 1941–1957 — — F. Roosevelt death
19 Harold Medina NY 1888–1990 1951–1958 — 1958–1980 Truman retirement
20 Carroll C. Hincks CT 1889–1964 1953–1959 — 1959–1964 Eisenhower death
21 John Marshall Harlan II NY 1899–1971 1954–1955 — — Eisenhower elevated to Supreme Court
22 Joseph Edward Lumbard NY 1901–1999 1955–1971 1959–1971 1971–1999 Eisenhower death
23 Sterry R. Waterman VT 1901–1984 1955–1970 — 1970–1984 Eisenhower death
24 Leonard P. Moore NY 1898–1982 1957–1971 — 1971–1982 Eisenhower death
25 Henry Friendly NY 1903–1986 1959–1974 1971–1973 1974–1986 Eisenhower death
26 John Joseph Smith CT 1904–1980 1960–1971 — 1971–1980 Eisenhower death
27 Irving Kaufman NY 1910–1992 1961–1987 1973–1980 1987–1992 Kennedy death
28 Paul R. Hays NY 1903–1980 1961–1974 — 1974–1980 Kennedy death
29 Thurgood Marshall NY 1908–1993 1961–1965 — — Kennedy resignation
30 Robert P. Anderson CT 1906–1978 1964–1971 — 1971–1978 L. Johnson death
31 Wilfred Feinberg NY 1920–2014 1966–1991 1980–1988 1991–2014 L. Johnson death
32 Walter Roe Mansfield NY 1911–1987 1971–1981 — 1981–1987 Nixon death
33 William Hughes Mulligan NY 1918–1996 1971–1981 — — Nixon resignation
34 James Lowell Oakes VT 1924–2007 1971–1992 1988–1992 1992–2007 Nixon death
35 William Homer Timbers CT 1915–1994 1971–1981 — 1981–1994 Nixon death
36 Murray Irwin Gurfein NY 1907–1979 1974–1979 — — Ford[8] death
37 Ellsworth Van Graafeiland NY 1915–2004 1974–1985 — 1985–2004 Ford death
38 Thomas Joseph Meskill CT 1928–2007 1975–1993 1992–1993 1993–2007 Ford death
41 Richard J. Cardamone NY 1925–2015 1981–1993 — 1993–2015 Reagan death
42 Lawrence W. Pierce NY 1924–present 1981–1990 — 1990–1995 Reagan retirement
44 George C. Pratt NY 1928–present 1982–1993 — 1993–1995 Reagan retirement
45 Roger Miner NY 1934–2012 1985–1997 — 1997–2012 Reagan death
46 Frank X. Altimari NY 1928–1998 1985–1996 — 1996–1998 Reagan death
47 John Daniel Mahoney NY 1931–1996 1986–1996 — — Reagan death
49 Joseph M. McLaughlin NY 1933–2013 1990–1998 — 1998–2013 G.H.W. Bush death
54 Fred I. Parker VT 1938–2003 1994–2003 — — Clinton death
58 Sonia Sotomayor NY 1954–present 1998–2009 — — Clinton elevated to Supreme Court
est of the list!

 

[repete]

Hahhahaha ok bud keep enjoying your bull shit aproach.
Hopefully NY wins against the NRA

Yup and when you have a bitch against GOA and the others will you feel the same way? Fuck em all? Hope that NY kicks all their ass's? Yeah I guess that will show them! Have you ever heard "cut your nose off to spite your face"? I can't believe an intelligent gun owner anywhere would feel the way you do.

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yup and when you have a bitch against GOA and the others will you feel the same way? Fuck em all? Hope that NY kicks all their ass's? Yeah I guess that will show them! Have you ever heard "cut your nose off to spite your face"? I can't believe an intelligent gun owner anywhere would feel the way you do.

But I dont have an issue with pro gun organizations like GOA, its anti 2a organizations like moms demand action or the NRA that I have a problem with

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yup and when you have a bitch against GOA and the others will you feel the same way? Fuck em all? Hope that NY kicks all their ass's? Yeah I guess that will show them! Have you ever heard "cut your nose off to spite your face"? I can't believe an intelligent gun owner anywhere would feel the way you do.

And I cant believe an intelligent gun owner would support the NRA in any way shape or form

But hey willfully ignorant is easy right ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Marine Cpl]

When that liberal cocksucker is a Fudd that would not only do nothing if you got attested, but would steal money from you and beg for more, yeah , fuck him.

You most be an awesome chess player!

 

[Edwardteach72]

@Darth havent you ever heard of 4DIAC3GWZRE chess?

 

[Marine Cpl]

@Darth havent you ever heard of 4DIAC3GWZRE chess?

He probably hasn't since his only concern is for the liberal to get fucked. He'd rather have his troops charge headfirst into the fatal funnel rather than wait for his cavalry to get set up on the flanks just because he wants to kill some of them first now rather than wait for a decisive victory.

 

[Darth]

You most be an awesome chess player!

I know that when "my buddy" comes up and starts destroying my own pieces, I don’t thank him because, hey, he could have taken a shit on my face too.

 

[Darth]

He probably hasn't since his only concern is for the liberal to get fucked. He'd rather have his troops charge headfirst into the fatal funnel rather than wait for his cavalry to get set up on the flanks just because he wants to kill some of them first now rather than wait for a decisive victory.

The troops are asleep. They didn’t hear Reveille being played.

 

[lethalweapon5]

Yes, the NRA has messed up royally, and they have some serious issues in the organization, but you want then gone? Who will take their place? GOA? SAF? FPC? Then wed be in real trouble... it's awful cute that they have a true pro-gun policy, but unfortunately this far, all they have done is collect our money and literally accomplished NOTHING! Think what you want about the NRA, but they, and especially the ILA part, are the ONLY effective gun rights org we have right now. Literally the head of GOA said you'd be nuts not to be supporting the NRA as well!

It is a completely objective fact, that regardless of how low the NRA has fallen, we absolutely NEED a strong and well-functioning NRA, and if you are simply the type of person who just says "fuck em" and does nothing except complain and throw a few bucks to GOA, then you are sitting in the wagon while the rest of us pull you along.

 

[1911guy]

This ^^^^^^^^^^^^]

 

[Edwardteach72]

Yes, the NRA has messed up royally, and they have some serious issues in the organization, but you want then gone? Who will take their place? GOA? SAF? FPC? Then wed be in real trouble... it's awful cute that they have a true pro-gun policy, but unfortunately this far, all they have done is collect our money and literally accomplished NOTHING! Think what you want about the NRA, but they, and especially the ILA part, are the ONLY effective gun rights org we have right now. Literally the head of GOA said you'd be nuts not to be supporting the NRA as well!

It is a completely objective fact, that regardless of how low the NRA has fallen, we absolutely NEED a strong and well-functioning NRA, and if you are simply the type of person who just says "fuck em" and does nothing except complain and throw a few bucks to GOA, then you are sitting in the wagon while the rest of us pull you along.

Hahahha that's cute, you're cute

 

[Pale Rider]

"Hahahha that's cute, you're cute"

Well, that was a little condescending. If not for the NRA, gun rights would have likely been a thing of the past long ago.

 

[Edwardteach72]

"Hahahha that's cute, you're cute"

Well, that was a little condescending. If not for the NRA, gun rights would have likely been a thing of the past long ago.

Sorry that it was just a little condescending it was meant to be completely condescending


And maybe you should use this new invention called www.google.com and you can see that stupid "if it wasnt for the NRA" mantra that the NRA apologist keep spewing is complete trash and the NRA has never been for saving the 2A.


(Hopefully you dont feel to personally attacked. I'm sure we can turn this into a personal safe space for you if I'm being to mean about your precious Brady campaign er sorry I mean NRA, i get the two mixed up all the time since they are pretty much the same thing)

 

[Deplorable Me]

A very small contingent who hate the NRA actually belong to one of the alternate national groups. No group is perfect, but you can't afford to go it alone.

I'll never be an NRA lifer, but I will continue my annual membership. FWIW NYSRPA and SCOPE are on my shit list. I am a charter member of the 1791 group in Erie County, with minimum resources they've already filed 2 lawsuits and put had Andy cancel a public appearance in Hamburg.

Doing nothing is not an option. Consolidate efforts somewhere or prepare to get picked off one at a time.

 

[Pale Rider]

"(Hopefully you dont feel to personally attacked. I'm sure we can turn this into a personal safe space for you if I'm being to mean about your precious Brady campaign"

In order for me to feel bad about being personally attacked, It would have to be by someone who's opinion mattered to me.

 

[Edwardteach72]

"(Hopefully you dont feel to personally attacked. I'm sure we can turn this into a personal safe space for you if I'm being to mean about your precious Brady campaign"

In order for me to feel bad about being personally attacked, It would have to be by someone who's opinion mattered to me.

Well good I'm glad, otherwise I would have lost sleep tonight

 

[BDinPutnam]

"Hahahha that's cute, you're cute"

Well, that was a little condescending. If not for the NRA, gun rights would have likely been a thing of the past long ago.

NFA
GCA
Brady Bill
FOPA/ Hughes Amendment
Fed AWB
922R
Bumpstock "legislation" within the Executive branch.

All on NRA's watch and in most instances, with their complicity.

 

[Bustedknees]

I just renewed for another 3 years..
There's a reason the Clinton's ,schummers, Bloomberg, and Cuomo hates them.. and that pleases me enough..As a bonus I think American rifleman magizine is a great read..
They have their problems but it's still a great value for $100 per 3 years..