NRA Shits The Bed and Folds
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Cureforcancer
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Less than a week ago we were talking about possible pro gun legislation passing.
Republicans are already folding and so will Trump.
Some form of GC will come. Frustrating to say the least.
Republicans are already folding and so will Trump.
Some form of GC will come. Frustrating to say the least.
You must be unfamiliar with the NRA then.
Just a reminder, No New Federal Gun Laws on Obama's watch in all 8 years. Stop being ass-wipes of the republican party and parroting its hollow propaganda. They don't give a shit about your rights, they only take care of the wealthy. If you subscribe to National Review, roll it up and stick it up your ass.
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Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
But we will give up both. That's the problem.
We're fucked because the republicans are shitting the bed too. Notice the numerous cover my ass comments on I didn't even know they were produced. Also the BS answer of why does anyone need one no sportsmen needs them for hunting.
I agree I won't buy one unless they were like $50.00, but if some one wants one and they have fun with it so be it. You guys all bash FUDDS because they only want hunting shotguns and riffles there's no difference here. We go that route you'll all be packing a .454 for protection and who's going to do that. This is a slippery slope for sure and we need to watch out big time.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
They will be cock unicorn hats that say were dicks because we own assault riffles.
Mr. terzmo
.308 Win
Well...I thought a few years ago that the dreaded black rifle should be banned. Then thought it over and came to the conclusion it isn't delivering anything larger or faster than my Remington 7400. Bottom line is why should one have one of the "black rifles" ..because they want them and looks don't matter. NOW...with the "bump stock"....how does that change anyone's current rights IF banned. 1934 or so banned fully auto guns to the general public. Are you going to use a full auto to hunt ? There are restrictions on magazine capacity already in place. Want a "bump stock" to just burn ammo...shoot the crap out of cans..I've done it but it gets old. Self defense....best reason I can think of....it boils down to what the 2nd amendment was meant to say vs how interpreted today. As I feel, the NRA does not speak for me. We're supposed to,by the Constituion have like weapons. Interesting what Trump will do and IF He supports Congress, it will be the first thing he's addressed and a shame he is letting NY,california infringe upon the people
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
The NRA now the republicans are too. I agree with you. Not just how about the guy that bought one for $300.00, but how about the company that made 1000 of them and spent thousands on development. Guys there is no point in limiting ourselves. I agree at some point we have to maybe make compromises, but I think we have done that. Full auto is regulated to the max and we can't have explosives. I could see this ruining good gun companies and we will have less options. Then add in the fact of law suits and were further limited.
I'm chomping at the bit for someone to stand up in Congress and make a pitch to save the bump stock and become a national laughing stock.
There can (and should) be a rational argument made for semi-auto rifles, especially MSR''s that have ALL the factory features but the bump stock and trigger crank are history. Get yours while you can.
This "tool" used the excuse that he was "shooting 3 Gun competition" and that's why he "needed" all these rifles, magazines, and ammo. The gun shop sold him whatever he wanted. So....he threw 3 Gun Competitors under the bus in an effort to kill 58 and wound over 200. Guy did his homework that's for certain.
The NRA is useless. Completely useless BUT they're NOT stupid.
This won't lead to a semi-auto ban or mag cap ban in free America either. Like I said, limit the damage.
There can (and should) be a rational argument made for semi-auto rifles, especially MSR''s that have ALL the factory features but the bump stock and trigger crank are history. Get yours while you can.
This "tool" used the excuse that he was "shooting 3 Gun competition" and that's why he "needed" all these rifles, magazines, and ammo. The gun shop sold him whatever he wanted. So....he threw 3 Gun Competitors under the bus in an effort to kill 58 and wound over 200. Guy did his homework that's for certain.
The NRA is useless. Completely useless BUT they're NOT stupid.
This won't lead to a semi-auto ban or mag cap ban in free America either. Like I said, limit the damage.
Directly from the NRA Website:
(FAIRFAX, VA) - The National Rifle Association today issued the following statement:
"In the aftermath of the evil and senseless attack in Las Vegas, the American people are looking for answers as to how future tragedies can be prevented. Unfortunately, the first response from some politicians has been to call for more gun control. Banning guns from law-abiding Americans based on the criminal act of a madman will do nothing to prevent future attacks. This is a fact that has been proven time and again in countries across the world. In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved. Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. In an increasingly dangerous world, the NRA remains focused on our mission: strengthening Americans' Second Amendment freedom to defend themselves, their families and their communities. To that end, on behalf of our five million members across the country, we urge Congress to pass National Right-to-Carry reciprocity, which will allow law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and their families from acts of violence."
(FAIRFAX, VA) - The National Rifle Association today issued the following statement:
"In the aftermath of the evil and senseless attack in Las Vegas, the American people are looking for answers as to how future tragedies can be prevented. Unfortunately, the first response from some politicians has been to call for more gun control. Banning guns from law-abiding Americans based on the criminal act of a madman will do nothing to prevent future attacks. This is a fact that has been proven time and again in countries across the world. In Las Vegas, reports indicate that certain devices were used to modify the firearms involved. Despite the fact that the Obama administration approved the sale of bump fire stocks on at least two occasions, the National Rifle Association is calling on the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE) to immediately review whether these devices comply with federal law. The NRA believes that devices designed to allow semi-automatic rifles to function like fully-automatic rifles should be subject to additional regulations. In an increasingly dangerous world, the NRA remains focused on our mission: strengthening Americans' Second Amendment freedom to defend themselves, their families and their communities. To that end, on behalf of our five million members across the country, we urge Congress to pass National Right-to-Carry reciprocity, which will allow law-abiding Americans to defend themselves and their families from acts of violence."
Not for a lack of trying....
I understand limiting the damage. Where I've lost patience with/faith in the NRA is with the "pick your battles wisely" argument. When is the NRA going to do something for NY? When will they choose a battle that benefits all of us? If they're so dedicated to national reciprocity why don't they stop giving politicians (Paul Ryan this means you) money until they accomplish something?
NRA is a piece of the DC establishment and isn't going to change its stripes. If not for Alan Gottlieb and SAF would we be getting anywhere?
NRA is a piece of the DC establishment and isn't going to change its stripes. If not for Alan Gottlieb and SAF would we be getting anywhere?
Disabilities? Wtf?
Stop with the qualifiers or they'll say "then you must get a handicapped plaque for one!"
Bump fire stocks should be legal because there is no reason to ban them.
tony
6.5 Creedmoor
How many would have been killed and injured had a big rig been used to bowl 'em over. Just a knee jerk reaction to the incident. Should be hearing from Schumer shortly. I'll bet he's pissed that Feinstein beat him to it...
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
You guys have not gone far enough.....NRA is also responsible for cancer, herpes, endless wars, zits, bad relationships, toe fungus, short penises and a multitude of other ills. Yep, toss the NRA and we'll begin to solve the problems facing gun owners.
eagleridge357
.223 Rem
Yeh without SAF we are doomed.....so perspicacious!
Robin
.577 Tyrannosaur.
The Art of The Deal. I am willing to give up bump stocks, if, governments, Federal, State, and Local will repeal every gun law enacted since 1933. I've had a life time of giving up X and Y, you younger fellows can't recall a freedom you never had.
Robin
There are many more, here's just a few.
Federal Firearms Act of 1938 - Wikipedia
Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia
Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act - Wikipedia
Robin
There are many more, here's just a few.
Federal Firearms Act of 1938 - Wikipedia
Gun Control Act of 1968 - Wikipedia
Brady Handgun Violence Prevention Act - Wikipedia
Well when the cancer doctors start saying "Ok, I guess lymphoma is OK, as long as we get to keep fighting breast cancer", then we can talk.
GuyMontag
.44 mag
This is like watching a bunch of kids learn Santa isn't real.
Most are already sadly aware of the NRA's long history of SUPPORTING gun control, but hopefully their latest duplicity will finally wake up those who've been foolish enough to still be donating.
Most are already sadly aware of the NRA's long history of SUPPORTING gun control, but hopefully their latest duplicity will finally wake up those who've been foolish enough to still be donating.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Thanks for posting that. The NRA's statement is akin to "fine, let the ATF ban bump fire stocks and give us reciprocity while you're at it."
If the ATF does it, the ATF can reverse it in a few years without having to worry as much about national optics. They won't, but it's marginally better than having it written into law.
Tough call - I hate the idea of the antis getting anything else, especially with nothing in return. But I'm with the realists - too few are capable of understanding how bad it could've been if he'd used aimed fire from a 308 bolt gun and that he did many of those concert-goers a FAVOR buy using a bump stock on a 5.56.
Phazer
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Uh..oh...
Cureforcancer
.223 Rem
Ha! Good one Guy.
And Hickok shows his true colors:
Hickok sucks NRA cock all the time though, so there is no shock.
It's like watching an episode of the Twilight Zone, where you know exactly what is going to happen, but nobody will listen.
People REALLY need to listen to NYers and CA folks about this. We've seen it happen and been there.
Remember the true colors of these people next time this comes around.
Hickok sucks NRA cock all the time though, so there is no shock.
It's like watching an episode of the Twilight Zone, where you know exactly what is going to happen, but nobody will listen.
People REALLY need to listen to NYers and CA folks about this. We've seen it happen and been there.
Remember the true colors of these people next time this comes around.
BuellSix8
.40 S&W
You watch....... you can keep it just have to be registered lol.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
You speak the truth. Most people don't have a clue about how the NRA was complicit in 1968 and with Clintons NICs checks.
BerettaGuy
.308 Win
Every single channel is full of friggin X-Spurts babbling about bump stocks and more reasonable gun control. I can bump fire with my friggin belt loop. What are the gonna do, ban pants with belts?
They better come up with the motive fast. This left wing nut job was driven by all the "fake news" on NBC and Cnn. Start spreading that around.
They better come up with the motive fast. This left wing nut job was driven by all the "fake news" on NBC and Cnn. Start spreading that around.