NY Cops, - quota time of the month again?

[VietnamEraVet]

So, one of my kids and a friend went camping this past weekend out near Ithaca and drove back yesterday evening.

Got hit with a "fix-it ticket" in a small town as they headed back toward the Thruway to return home to Buffalo. A headlight was out, although my kid swears it was working fine before that. OK, so shit happens. I get it.

However, while on the Thruway between Utica and Buffalo, they were pulled over TWICE for the broken headlight. TWICE! WTF?

Now, I will cut the purple tie squad boys some slack. On both stops, when my kid showed them the "fix it ticket" that had been issued only hours earlier, they relented, and sent them on their way without ticketing them again. But I am guessing that if they had not already been ticketed, that the NYSP WOULD HAVE ticketed them.

So, I am left wondering if this is a monthly thing as New Yorkistan is running out of money?

I definitely am not missing that shit down here in SC.

 

[JohnD13]

Well, there's that new stadium they want to build for the 'Bill's'...

 

[thughes]

Holiday week/weekend.....

 

[stokes]

Without getting into the quota/ harrassment issue, the kids headlight was out, he got a fix it ticket, as it should be. The subsequent stops the cops had no way to know he got a ticket already. Troopers are on the Thruway all the time. A broken headlamp isnt something easy to miss. Even if it wasnt "quota time" he would have been stopped.

 

[technicalgadget]

If you show proof of repair or receipt, doesn't the fine go away with a fixit ticket?

 

[DoOver]

Without getting into the quota/ harrassment issue, the kids headlight was out, he got a fix it ticket, as it should be. The subsequent stops the cops had no way to know he got a ticket already. Troopers are on the Thruway all the time. A broken headlamp isnt something easy to miss. Even if it wasnt "quota time" he would have been stopped.

Yes, and in my county, Delaware you are going to get pulled over at night, generally a license plate plate light out.
I don't have as a big problem with that as I did when I was a kid.

 

[That_FNG]

So, one of my kids and a friend went camping this past weekend out near Ithaca and drove back yesterday evening.

Got hit with a "fix-it ticket" in a small town as they headed back toward the Thruway to return home to Buffalo. A headlight was out, although my kid swears it was working fine before that. OK, so shit happens. I get it.

However, while on the Thruway between Utica and Buffalo, they were pulled over TWICE for the broken headlight. TWICE! WTF?

Now, I will cut the purple tie squad boys some slack. On both stops, when my kid showed them the "fix it ticket" that had been issued only hours earlier, they relented, and sent them on their way without ticketing them again. But I am guessing that if they had not already been ticketed, that the NYSP WOULD HAVE ticketed them.

So, I am left wondering if this is a monthly thing as New Yorkistan is running out of money?

I definitely am not missing that shit down here in SC.

Well when you are not busy catching shoplifters and car stealers you have plenty of time to go after those who can afford to pay tickets

 

[Saltwater60]

It’s the holiday coming up as said above. It’s like this every year. In spring o got pulled over for making a left into a parking lot because there was a sign saying no left turn. I was taking my son fishing after picking him up from school. I always enter from the other side of the lot so I didn’t even know the sign was there. Yes I missed it but I drive that road all the time
The point yes they have monthly quotas but there are other factors at play. Holidays like Memorial Day, the 4th, Labor Day and seasonal stuff they beef up enforcement. I will add the goal should Beto catch drunks and other unsafe practices not this.

 

[REF]

Where’s the victims in these crimes?

 

[Koz]

I'm thinkin' perhaps the crack down is to front a facelift and makeover for Hoecul. That aught to cost a shit ton of folding money.

 

[REF]

True story—

I’ve been working on the Mid-Hudson Bridge and the Walkway Over The Hudson since last year . We have 3 construction vehicles here that are going back and forth to the yard and bridges all day long , in and out of the truck. Anyways, we were working on the west abutment of the MHB on the Highland side in the middle of what is always a hot spot for the purple tie gang for speeders and DOT checkpoints. On this particular day , a state boy was in and out and around our work zone all day long. At the end of the day , I leave the bridge to head back to our yard on the Highland . As I was driving off, I couldn’t get my seatbelt on because of a pen in my pocket and guess who I drive right by during this?? Yep, the trooper, and he pulls me over for no seatbelt and gives me a fucking ticket that ended up costing $225 dollars. WTF. Last day of the month too, makes you wonder.
Also gave one of my guys a warning about construction lights on when we were going back and forth to our yard which is literally less than a mile from each bridge. Un-fucking-believable

 

[FP1201]

So, one of my kids and a friend went camping this past weekend out near Ithaca and drove back yesterday evening.

Got hit with a "fix-it ticket" in a small town as they headed back toward the Thruway to return home to Buffalo. A headlight was out, although my kid swears it was working fine before that. OK, so shit happens. I get it.

However, while on the Thruway between Utica and Buffalo, they were pulled over TWICE for the broken headlight. TWICE! WTF?

Now, I will cut the purple tie squad boys some slack. On both stops, when my kid showed them the "fix it ticket" that had been issued only hours earlier, they relented, and sent them on their way without ticketing them again. But I am guessing that if they had not already been ticketed, that the NYSP WOULD HAVE ticketed them.

So, I am left wondering if this is a monthly thing as New Yorkistan is running out of money?

I definitely am not missing that shit down here in SC.

While there is no official "quota" per say, Officers are expected to conduct a certain number of "interviews" else they are suspect in not doing their Jobs...Mechanical defects (headlights, taillights, dark tint, etc.) are easy marks that scream "come and get me"....You're supposed to do a pre-trip inspection of your vehicle before each time it's driven, but almost no one does.
Do yourself a favor when it's dark enough to see the Lights, pull up, turn them on, and cycle through the high/low beams, and when you back up against something like a Garage Door, look back to see if both tail, stop, and turn lights are working....do what you can to avoid inviting the man into your life...sure shit happens, but a minutes worth of checking can save you fifteen or more of anal probing.

 

[Koz]

Awe, the good old days if you had a headlight out you just gave a quick rap on the front fender and presto, it would kick back on.
I remember coming back from LI and entering the Cross Bronx Exp. I got pulled over by a local cop for a headlight out. I got out and pounded on my fender and the light came back on. I mentioned to the cop who was noticeably perturbed that I had "exited my vehicle" to fix my light that his tail light was out. He called my a "smart ass" as I got back into my car and drove off. I chuckled all the way to Newburgh!!!

 

[Beerman]

While there is no official "quota" per say, Officers are expected to conduct a certain number of "interviews" else they are suspect in not doing their Jobs...Mechanical defects (headlights, taillights, dark tint, etc.) are easy marks that scream "come and get me"....You're supposed to do a pre-trip inspection of your vehicle before each time it's driven, but almost no one does.
Do yourself a favor when it's dark enough to see the Lights, pull up, turn them on, and cycle through the high/low beams, and when you back up against something like a Garage Door, look back to see if both tail, stop, and turn lights are working....do what you can to avoid inviting the man into your life...sure shit happens, but a minutes worth of checking can save you fifteen or more of anal probing.

What about contraband? Glovebox or center console for that stuff? Under the spare tire is too hard to reach, and liquor bottles won’t fit there anyway.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

True story—

I’ve been working on the Mid-Hudson Bridge and the Walkway Over The Hudson since last year . We have 3 construction vehicles here that are going back and forth to the yard and bridges all day long , in and out of the truck. Anyways, we were working on the west abutment of the MHB on the Highland side in the middle of what is always a hot spot for the purple tie gang for speeders and DOT checkpoints. On this particular day , a state boy was in and out and around our work zone all day long. At the end of the day , I leave the bridge to head back to our yard on the Highland . As I was driving off, I couldn’t get my seatbelt on because of a pen in my pocket and guess who I drive right by during this?? Yep, the trooper, and he pulls me over for no seatbelt and gives me a fucking ticket that ended up costing $225 dollars. WTF. Last day of the month too, makes you wonder.
Also gave one of my guys a warning about construction lights on when we were going back and forth to our yard which is literally less than a mile from each bridge. Un-fucking-believable

About 20 years ago, my mom asked me to do her a favor. She and dad were having an outdoor party that day, and her steel tea cart was all flaked and peeling. Could I take and blast and paint it in time for their party? I told her "No problem". Picked it up, took it to work, spiffed it up and repainted it in gloss white, and proceeded to drive it home though the Village of Orchard Park in order to get it to her in time for her party.

As the Krylon spray paint hadn't fully dried, I didn't want to strap it down on my truck bed, so I held it with my right hand thru the rear window. To hold it, I couldn't wear my seat belt. Of course, at that time, the powers that be in New Yorkistan wanted to get up their seat belt compliance numbers, and so they gave money to all the local police departments to run seat belt "blitzes" if they wanted to. And the Chief of the OPPD wanted that state money.

In the midst of that beautiful summer day, I drove into the Village, and at N. Buffalo & Taylor Road, what do I see (too late, of course) but one of OPPD's finest standing on the corner trying to hide under a full length trench coat turned up to hide his face, and wearing a hat and sunglasses worthy of Sam Spade on a late night stakeout, and whispering into a handheld radio. As I was "speeding" along at 20 MPH due to traffic, suddenly a cop in uniform runs out into the traffic and orders me to pull into the plaza where they proceeded to write me a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt...
Seriously guys? WTF?

Cost me about $50.00 as I recall. Not too long after that, one of them hit me up for another annual contribution to their department picnic. I told them, sorry, they had gotten the last contribution they would ever get from me.

 

[1075tech]

It's not a quota. Quotas would be illegal.

It's a performance standard they have to meet for their review

 

[thughes]

About 20 years ago, my mom asked me to do her a favor. She and dad were having an outdoor party that day, and her steel tea cart was all flaked and peeling. Could I take and blast and paint it in time for their party? I told her "No problem". Picked it up, took it to work, spiffed it up and repainted it in gloss white, and proceeded to drive it home though the Village of Orchard Park in order to get it to her in time for her party.

As the Krylon spray paint hadn't fully dried, I didn't want to strap it down on my truck bed, so I held it with my right hand thru the rear window. To hold it, I couldn't wear my seat belt. Of course, at that time, the powers that be in New Yorkistan wanted to get up their seat belt compliance numbers, and so they gave money to all the local police departments to run seat belt "blitzes" if they wanted to. And the Chief of the OPPD wanted that state money.

In the midst of that beautiful summer day, I drove into the Village, and at N. Buffalo & Taylor Road, what do I see (too late, of course) but one of OPPD's finest standing on the corner trying to hide under a full length trench coat turned up to hide his face, and wearing a hat and sunglasses worthy of Sam Spade on a late night stakeout, and whispering into a handheld radio. As I was "speeding" along at 20 MPH due to traffic, suddenly a cop in uniform runs out into the traffic and orders me to pull into the plaza where they proceeded to write me a ticket for not wearing a seatbelt...
Seriously guys? WTF?

Cost me about $50.00 as I recall. Not too long after that, one of them hit me up for another annual contribution to their department picnic. I told them, sorry, they had gotten the last contribution they would ever get from me.

I'm just checking for understanding here: You got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt due to the fact that you had to reach through the rear window to secure a loose load in the bed of your truck, driving down the road.......and the cops are the assholes for giving you a ticket?

 

[VietnamEraVet]

I'm just checking for understanding here: You got a ticket for not wearing a seat belt due to the fact that you had to reach through the rear window to secure a loose load in the bed of your truck, driving down the road.......and the cops are the assholes for giving you a ticket?

I didn't call them assholes for giving me a ticket. I'm more against mandatory seat belt laws (and motorcycle helmet laws as well). Am I saying that seat belts (and helmets) don't save lives? Of course not. I am more against the nanny state horseshit we are increasingly subjected to. So, have you never strapped something to the roof of a vehicle and reached up during a drive to check on it?

Did they need to write me a ticket for driving sans seatbelt at 20 MPH? They were doing a seatbelt blitz to collect additional taxpayer funds from NYS, and to use the fines collected in their budget. I am just saying that I am against unnecessary things like that.

 

[stokes]

Pretty much all traffic violations are a fund raising thing. Thats why when you get a ticket for 15 or more over the limit the local court will contact you or offer a lesser violation when you appear. If the over 15 mph sticks, the money goes to the state, if they reduce it, the locality keeps the $$$.

 

[FP1201]

What about contraband? Glovebox or center console for that stuff? Under the spare tire is too hard to reach, and liquor bottles won’t fit there anyway.

Contraband is presumably discovered AFTER the stop...what's that they say about not committing more than one crime at a time?

 

[FP1201]

Pretty much all traffic violations are a fund raising thing. Thats why when you get a ticket for 15 or more over the limit the local court will contact you or offer a lesser violation when you appear. If the over 15 mph sticks, the money goes to the state, if they reduce it, the locality keeps the $$$.

Traffic violations are an indulgence paid to the State upon discovery....you CAN Park in that Handicap spot, but if you're caught you will pay the Priests in the Courts of Traffic Violations, and should you reject, then the Bishops in the Temple of Motor Vehicles shall make demands of your soul.

 

[SonOfSun]

While there is no official "quota" per say, Officers are expected to conduct a certain number of "interviews" else they are suspect in not doing their Jobs...Mechanical defects (headlights, taillights, dark tint, etc.) are easy marks that scream "come and get me"....You're supposed to do a pre-trip inspection of your vehicle before each time it's driven, but almost no one does.
Do yourself a favor when it's dark enough to see the Lights, pull up, turn them on, and cycle through the high/low beams, and when you back up against something like a Garage Door, look back to see if both tail, stop, and turn lights are working....do what you can to avoid inviting the man into your life...sure shit happens, but a minutes worth of checking can save you fifteen or more of anal probing.

To be fair some the these prechecks are basically impossible to do. Like a break light check. How am I supposed to walk around the vehicle and press the break pedal at the same time? Yes you can use reflection off a garage door, but that's only so good, light bleeds over, etc. Also, not everyone has a garage/driveway.

 

[dsdmmat]

If you show proof of repair or receipt, doesn't the fine go away with a fixit ticket?

The court fees don’t though.

 

[Nevar]

But if you can flash a TIN or Card. You go free.
Want a real laugh
Watch the kunts and runts go thru the fun house.

 

[Saltwater60]

Where’s the victims in these crimes?

His son is the victim of that crime. Of it was dark I could see it but if not then no way.

 

[repete]

To be fair some the these prechecks are basically impossible to do. Like a break light check. How am I supposed to walk around the vehicle and press the break pedal at the same time? Yes you can use reflection off a garage door, but that's only so good, light bleeds over, etc. Also, not everyone has a garage/driveway.

If you have red brake lights just turn your 4-way flashers on, the 4-ways, turn signals and brake lights all use the same filament in the bulb and most of the wiring. If you have the amber signals, you're out of luck.

 

[Saltwater60]

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While there is no official "quota" per say, Officers are expected to conduct a certain number of "interviews" else they are suspect in not doing their Jobs...Mechanical defects (headlights, taillights, dark tint, etc.) are easy marks that scream "come and get me"....You're supposed to do a pre-trip inspection of your vehicle before each time it's driven, but almost no one does.
Do yourself a favor when it's dark enough to see the Lights, pull up, turn them on, and cycle through the high/low beams, and when you back up against something like a Garage Door, look back to see if both tail, stop, and turn lights are working....do what you can to avoid inviting the man into your life...sure shit happens, but a minutes worth of checking can save you fifteen or more of anal probing.

Some departments have quotas. My father would get regularly yelled at for not meeting his for tickets.

 

[Darth]

Without getting into the quota/ harrassment issue, the kids headlight was out, he got a fix it ticket, as it should be. The subsequent stops the cops had no way to know he got a ticket already. Troopers are on the Thruway all the time. A broken headlamp isnt something easy to miss. Even if it wasnt "quota time" he would have been stopped.

Yeah, it isn't something easy to miss.

So stopping a vehicle at night on the state's busiest highway putting everyone in incredible danger is in no way justified.

"We've got dangerous jobs. "

That you made that way.

 

[SonOfSun]

The court fees don’t though.

It's been a long time since I got a "fix it" style ticket for something like a headlight out, about 15 years. Back then you had 48 hours to fix it and all you had to do was go to a police station in the jurisdiction, show them the ticket and tell them you had it fixed and the vehicle was there. They'd send an officer out to verify and if it was fixed they'd dismiss the ticket. No fees, no court or anything. Is it not the same any more?

 

[C3D]

Move to Denver.

Denver police will not pull over drivers for low-level traffic violations in policy shift

There's a new approach to how the city of Denver will handle low-level traffic violations.

www.cbsnews.com