NYS bill heads to cuomo’s desk for all cars sold in NYS to be electric by 2035

[Saltwater60]

Things aren’t looking good here. I should be good since I’ll buy two ICE cars then I’ll retire elsewhere. Then all I need to do is keep the gas car running from 63 until I die. Maybe won’t work since the car will spend 9 years in Buffalo then have to last me say another 20 years in the south. Hope others don’t follow suit but I’m not counting on that.
I’m sure Cuomo will sign this.

New bill requires all vehicles sold in NYS to be electric by 2035

ALBANY, N.Y. (NEWS10) – Monday, Bill S2758, sponsored by Assembly Environmental Conservation Committee Chair Steve Englebright and Senator Pete Harckham, passed the New York State Se…

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[Phazer]

Might as well write an edict to start planting magic money trees and raising herds of unicorns that shit diamonds and piss oil.

Someone needs to ask these morons: How the hell do you think that you are going generate enough electricity to power millions of motor vehicles? You idiots have not licensed a nuclear power plant in over 50 years. You miscreants are banning fossil fuels. You jackasses are going to seriously hurt people who are unable to travel to seek medical services when their glorified golf carts' batteries have died in the dead of winter when the electric grid is down.

 

[GOPerfect]

Okay. I'll buy out of State.

This is a bill/law that has no teeth. None at all.

He can sign it all he wants, no teeth.

 

[GOPerfect]

Might as well write an edict to start planting magic money trees and raising herds of unicorns that shit diamonds and piss oil.

Someone needs to ask these morons: How the hell do you think that you are going generate enough electricity to power millions of motor vehicles? You idiots have not licensed a nuclear power plant in over 50 years. You miscreants are banning fossil fuels. You jackasses are going to seriously hurt people who are unable to travel to seek medical services when their glorified golf carts' batteries have died in the dead of winter when the electric grid is down.

It's like you are in their minds. All that you mentioned, none of them care about.

 

[FRB]

Political pandering at its worst, that is what this law will be.

 

[GOPerfect]

This is all about the Agenda. Small, all included communities. Built with all that is needed for living.

 

[Phazer]

Okay. I'll buy out of State.

This is a bill/law that has no teeth. None at all.

He can sign it all he wants, no teeth.

In 2036 there will be a red hot market for used gasoline-powered passenger cars in New York.

 

[Phazer]

Someone needs to teach these idiots about how the heavy metals in electric car batteries are obtained. Have them explain how strip mining is eco-friendly.

Also...by 2045 New York landfills will be full of toxic, expended, batteries that will cost a fortune to recycle. Oh well....just need some more taxes.

Are Electric Cars Really Green? | PragerU

Bjorn Lomborg reveals the truth about electric cars' environmental impact.

www.prageru.com

 

[Phazer]

The Dirty Secrets Of ‘Clean’ Electric Vehicles

The widespread view that fossil fuels are “dirty” and renewables such as wind and solar energy and electric vehicles are “clean” has become a fixture of mainstream media and policy makers of all persuasions. But, in the case of EVs, the dirty secrets of “clean energy” should seem apparent to all.

www.forbes.com

Once on the road, the carbon dioxide emissions of EVs depends on the power-generation fuel used to recharge its battery. If it comes mostly from coal-fired power plants, it will lead to about 15 ounces of carbon-dioxide for every mile it is driven—three ounces more than a similar gasoline-powered car. Even without reference to the source of electricity used for battery charging, if an EV is driven 50,000 miles over its lifetime, the huge initial emissions from its manufacture means the EV will actually have put more carbon-dioxide in the atmosphere than a similar-size gasoline-powered car driven the same number of miles. Even if the EV is driven for 90,000 miles and the battery is charged by cleaner natural-gas fueled power stations, it will cause just 24% less carbon-dioxide emission than a gasoline-powered car. As the skeptical environmentalist Bjorn Lomborg puts it, “This is a far cry from ‘zero emissions’".

 

[Saltwater60]

Someone needs to teach these idiots about how the heavy metals in electric car batteries are obtained. Have them explain how strip mining is eco-friendly.

Also...by 2045 New York landfills will be full of toxic, expended, batteries that will cost a fortune to recycle. Oh well....just need some more taxes.

Are Electric Cars Really Green? | PragerU

Bjorn Lomborg reveals the truth about electric cars' environmental impact.

www.prageru.com

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Most are too stupid to dig any further or more than scratch the surface.

 

[Saltwater60]

The Dirty Secrets Of ‘Clean’ Electric Vehicles

The widespread view that fossil fuels are “dirty” and renewables such as wind and solar energy and electric vehicles are “clean” has become a fixture of mainstream media and policy makers of all persuasions. But, in the case of EVs, the dirty secrets of “clean energy” should seem apparent to all.

www.forbes.com

Once on the road, the carbon dioxide emissions of EVs depends on the power-generation fuel used to recharge its battery. If it comes mostly from coal-fired power plants, it will lead to about 15 ounces of carbon-dioxide for every mile it is driven—three ounces more than a similar gasoline-powered car. Even without reference to the source of electricity used for battery charging, if an EV is driven 50,000 miles over its lifetime, the huge initial emissions from its manufacture means the EV will actually have put more carbon-dioxide in the atmosphere than a similar-size gasoline-powered car driven the same number of miles. Even if the EV is driven for 90,000 miles and the battery is charged by cleaner natural-gas fueled power stations, it will cause just 24% less carbon-dioxide emission than a gasoline-powered car. As the skeptical environmentalist Bjorn Lomborg puts it, “This is a far cry from ‘zero emissions’".

Not anymore. Biden will trash coal. Coal will be gone.

This is honestly our only hope to get the democrats out of office. If they pass and do all this BS and trash the economy and jobs. We need to act on this or will lose.

 

[SonOfSun]

Not anymore. Biden will trash coal. Coal will be gone.

This is honestly our only hope to get the democrats out of office. If they pass and do all this BS and trash the economy and jobs. We need to act on this or will lose.

Biden didn't trash coal. Economics did.

 

[GOPerfect]

Biden didn't trash coal. Economics did.

Wow.

 

[SonOfSun]

Wow.

Wow what?







Coal generation went down significantly during Trump's term. It's an economic thing, not a regulation thing. LNG is just better. It's cheaper. It's more efficient. It's greener. It's just plain and simple a better fuel. See those blue and maroon trend lines, they tell the story. It's like cars vs. horse drawn buggies - cars are just objectively better transport.

This trend was present during Trump's term. This trend will continue during Biden's admin and who comes after him. Electric companies like fuels that are cheaper and more efficient than coal.

 

[GOPerfect]

Wow what?




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Coal generation went down significantly during Trump's term. It's an economic thing, not a regulation thing. LNG is just better. It's cheaper. It's more efficient. It's greener. It's just plain and simple a better fuel. See that those blue and maroon trend lines, they tell the story. It's like cars vs. horse drawn buggies - cars are just objectively better transport.

This trend was present during Trump's term. This trend will continue during Biden's admin and who comes after him. Electric companies like fuels that are cheaper and more efficient than coal.

Do not just look at some chart. Dig deeper and find the reasons for the numbers on the chart. Anyone can Google a chart.

Sure production was down; why was it down?

What happened around 2008 in regards to coal?

 

[SonOfSun]

What happened around 2008 in regards to coal?

Fracking exploded, no pun intended.

Fracking | What is Fracking? | Shale Oil and Natural Gas | IPAA

Hydraulic fracturing is a proven drilling technology used to extract oil or natural gas from deep underground. Fracking has been safely used in the U.S. since 1947 and on more than 1.7 million wells.

www.ipaa.org

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From 2007 to 2016, annual U.S. oil production increased 75 percent, while natural gas production increased 39 percent, thanks to the advancements in horizontal drilling and fracking technology.​

That's from IPAA by the way, not exactly what you'd call tree huggers. Gas got cheaper, relative to coal. Many Electrical generators are converting coal plants to gas. You can say it's all about Biden all you want, but the truth is it's just economics. If you were operating a power generation business and one fuel was much cheaper than another fuel, which one would you use?

 

[Gonzobird]

Does this bill not allow gas cars to be registered? Ill have to look.

 

[GOPerfect]

Does this bill not allow gas cars to be registered? Ill have to look.

Post Office box in a free state would solve that as well.

 

[Paperpunch]

What the hell happened to LNG powered vehicles? Municipalities are using them, and my uncle modified his pickup truck to run on LNG. How come they're not more of them around?

 

[Thomas]

When will gas be 10.00 a gallon?

 

[Deplorable Me]

80%
FUAC

 

[GOPerfect]

When will gas be 10.00 a gallon?

I hope it happens sooner than later!!

 

[Michael]

Someone needs to teach these idiots about how the heavy metals in electric car batteries are obtained. Have them explain how strip mining is eco-friendly.

Also...by 2045 New York landfills will be full of toxic, expended, batteries that will cost a fortune to recycle. Oh well....just need some more taxes.

Are Electric Cars Really Green? | PragerU

Bjorn Lomborg reveals the truth about electric cars' environmental impact.

www.prageru.com

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Who the hell only drives a car for 90k miles? My last truck had 256k on it when I sold it. Both my vehicles now have close to 100k on them and I plan on them getting at least that much more. As for electric vehicles, when it comes to having to replace batteries, how much is that going to cost and at what cost to the environment?

 

[Day444]

You may keep your gas powered cars, you may buy out of state. You wanna bet these sneaky fucks will then prohibit you from registering them in New York?

 

[Phazer]

You may keep your gas powered cars, you may buy out of state. You wanna bet these sneaky fucks will then prohibit you from registering them in New York?

Talk about one of the most potentially regressive political policies. Damn!

 

[repete]

Do not just look at some chart. Dig deeper and find the reasons for the numbers on the chart. Anyone can Google a chart.

Sure production was down; why was it down?

What happened around 2008 in regards to coal?

Umm, I'll bite. It might have something to do with the fact that a couple libtard mental defects got elected as POTUS and VP, oh umm, what where their names? OH YEAH Obama and Biden and one of their top priorities was to "bankrupt big coal"
How was that?

 

[GOPerfect]

You may keep your gas powered cars, you may buy out of state. You wanna bet these sneaky fucks will then prohibit you from registering them in New York?

Post office box registration in a different state.

 

[jimc]

The last place I lived had no off street parking. There would be no way for my wife and I to charge our cars.

 

[togmaster]

Just driving business and people out of this state.

 

[spat]

I have the gas tank out of my Jeep right now. I had to move it around the driveway (it's getting a fuel cell).

So, I disconnected the clutch switch, put it in gear and cranked the starter over (manual transmissions are so nice like that)

Does that make it an electric car ?