NYS is looking to reduce rock salt usage for environmental reasons

[Saltwater60]

What a joke this is they can’t hire people to plow and now they want to reduce rock salt usage. Is brine any better? This will impact us all and what will they take away next?

DEC Seeks Participants for New Online Survey About Winter Rock Salt Use

NYSDEC is encouraging participation in a new survey to help better understand typical rock salt use by New Yorkers and public awareness regarding the potential environmental and health impacts of salt overuse. Results of the survey will help DEC tailor future outreach and education to help...

dec.ny.gov

 

[GOPerfect]

Funny how many states and countries around the world keep their roads clean with no salt at all. When I lived in Germany, the Bavaria region, roads were clean enough to drive on and no salt was used.

People have become soft and expect roads to be spotless and snow free.

When I began driving back in 1987, the roads were never clean like they are these days and there were far less car collisions. Maybe people need to learn to drive better.

 

[tgenec86]

Funny how many states and countries around the world keep their roads clean with no salt at all. When I lived in Germany, the Bavaria region, roads were clean enough to drive on and no salt was used.

People have become soft and expect roads to be spotless and snow free.

When I began driving back in 1987, the roads were never clean like they are these days and there were far less car collisions. Maybe people need to learn to drive better.

Dude - STOP MAKING SENSE. It's not in vogue.

 

[CNYJohn]

More sand less salt

When I started driving back in '78, they only salted grades.
Plowed the hell outta everything else.
Vermont use to just put salt down over the center stripe, traffic spread it outwards
And most drivers used dedicated snow tires, there was no such thing as all season tires

 

[kev74]

I'm ok with not using salt.

They can use all the money they save to keep neutering kids, reviving ODing junkies and paying off illegals.

 

[togmaster]

Salt was hardly used when I was younger and most all cars were rear wheel drive and had bias ply tires. Get rid of the salt.

 

[fresch]

Studded snows on a $100 winter rat. That today are collector cars.

 

[Beerman]

Road salt has poisoned/ruined many streams and private wells in the Adirondacks. Im happy to see it go.

 

[Hochulsucks1234]

I support this. The billions on damage to vehicles caused by salt is off the scale. I try to work on my vehicles but sometimes I get frustrated with rust.

 

[repete]

NY makes no sense. Before I retired I drove 90, 81 and 17 five nights a week. I saw some weird shit as far as plowing goes (well a lot of other weird shit too) Many times on I90 they would be plowing the right shoulder BEFORE any of the lanes were plowed! I also saw plows scraping along throwing sparks on clean dry pavement, but the one case beats all the others. One night I came up on a couple of plow trucks plowing and about 1/4 ahead of them was a truck dumping salt! So they were plowing the salt off to the side. WHY??? Only thing I can think of is Guy 1's job is to plow the shoulder and he got to work before lane 1 guy and lane 2 guy. Who knows?

 

[GOPerfect]

Salt was hardly used when I was younger and most all cars were rear wheel drive and had bias ply tires. Get rid of the salt.

My first 2 cars were late 70's Camaro's. V*, rear wheel drive. I learned how to drive in snow and ice.....

 

[kev74]

I filled out the survey as if I was a commie lib environmental nut.

I'm frustrated with what salt does to vehicles.

 

[GOPerfect]

I filled out the survey as if I was a commie lib environmental nut.

I'm frustrated with what salt does to vehicles.

I did not realize there was a survey. I filled it in, I lied and said I still live in the area.

My answers would be the same as an environmental wacko.

END ALL SALT USE ON OUR ROADS!

 

[pjzwtl]

My first 2 cars were late 70's Camaro's. V*, rear wheel drive. I learned how to drive in snow and ice.....

72 Nova, couple of blocks in the trunk and GTG ‍

 

[Parzival]

No salt in Montana, they use a mixture of magnesium chloride and sand. Also, in town, they only plow emergency snow routes. I’ve never had a snow plow come down my road.

They are pretty protective of their water here.

 

[Cooolone]

Drove with rear wheel drive, not even posi-traction, on all season tires... Slip sliding everywhere, but learned how to keep it straight, how to keep proper stop distancing without anti-lock brakes to boot!

Maybe figure out how they do it where it really shows all the time, and they don't use salt! How about requiring snow tires! Now that's an idea!?

Salt has done nothing but melt vehicle metal parts! Especially these days where it's thin as hell...

Anyways, lol, broken record here, but I'm heading where they don't get snow, I'll have a few shovels and a snow blower available soon hahaha, not sure I'll leave it for the new home owners

 

[libertysnake]

Funny how many states and countries around the world keep their roads clean with no salt at all. When I lived in Germany, the Bavaria region, roads were clean enough to drive on and no salt was used.

People have become soft and expect roads to be spotless and snow free.

When I began driving back in 1987, the roads were never clean like they are these days and there were far less car collisions. Maybe people need to learn to drive better.

When I learned to drive, my dad took me to a parking lot in the winter and let me do doughnuts and slip and slide around and have some fun in an open area. The point was to get me used to feeling the car drifting so that I knew how to not die if I happened and not freak out.

If you live in the north east, it is probably the number one thing to have your kids do.

 

[GOPerfect]

@Dr. Evil check this out.

 

[Acer-m14]

HELP SAVE SNOWMOBILE SKIS

BAN SALT

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

Did any of you take the online survey? I hate having all my vehicles rust and losing value.

 

[mca90guitar]

I'm good with no salt, trashes your vehicle and makes working on them a bitch. Which reminds me, I need to setup a appointment to have my truck undercoated.

 

[Cavalry]

You guys realize that this does nothing to reduce corrosion on your vehicles right? If anything its going to be worse.
They have been doing this study for a couple years and have the replacement plan already set up, They want to transition to brine. Sure, its better for the environment with less salt used, and is actually treating the road vs casting wherever, but it literally going to be slinging salt water all over your vehicle.

 

[Cavalry]

I'm good with no salt, trashes your vehicle and makes working on them a bitch. Which reminds me, I need to setup a appointment to have my truck undercoated.

By undercoated do you mean oil or a hard rubber coating?

 

[S&W Fan]

When I learned to drive, my dad took me to a parking lot in the winter and let me do doughnuts and slip and slide around and have some fun in an open area. The point was to get me used to feeling the car drifting so that I knew how to not die if I happened and not freak out.

If you live in the north east, it is probably the number one thing to have your kids do.

That’s exactly how I taught all of my kids to learn how to deal with controlling a car in a slide . I taught them with both rear and front wheel drive cars.

 

[Saltwater60]

I don’t want it banned for me to use it at home. My neighbors sump pump discharges on my sidewalk and I salt it almost daily when freezing temps are there. I don’t want to have to chop it or blow them in to cause other fights. They do nothing so it will do no good speaking to them. The inspector will get wise to it soon because they will get letters about their peeling paint and horrible roof soon enough.

 

[CNYJohn]

Thinking more about this
Probably wrongly but wtf

Salt usage is racist.
I travel the same routes as the guys hauling salt out of Lansing, Watkins Glen, retsof, Geneseo, and they are all white truck drivers.
The states procurement of salt is a racist process.
Not to mention the huge cost for transportation of the salt, whereas the state will be using a lower amount of actual salt but and increased amount of water for the brine.
Brine is heavier too, therefore increasing transportation cost. But and here's the but, there is a higher likelihood of minority drivers handling such commodity
Therefore the white supremency stranglehold on salt will be broken

Kudos to the DEC for finally beating the white race

 

[VietnamEraVet]

That’s exactly how I taught all of my kids to learn how to deal with controlling a car in a slide . I taught them with both rear and front wheel drive cars.

The problem now in the nanny state is that the cops will come after you while you're teaching your kids in some closed parking lot even when there are no other cars nearby.

Stupidity reigns.

 

[Cavalry]

Brine is heavier too, therefore increasing transportation cost. But and here's the but, there is a higher likelihood of minority drivers handling such commodity

Brine is made onsite from salt and locally sourced water. There will be less transportation costs because they are using less rocksalt, which indeed is racist.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I don’t want it banned for me to use it at home. My neighbors sump pump discharges on my sidewalk and I salt it almost daily when freezing temps are there. I don’t want to have to chop it or blow them in to cause other fights. They do nothing so it will do no good speaking to them. The inspector will get wise to it soon because they will get letters about their peeling paint and horrible roof soon enough.

Every story I think you have the worst neighbors

 

[SonOfSun]

I did not realize there was a survey. I filled it in, I lied and said I still live in the area.

You can no longer complain about vote cheating.