NYS tells businesses what they can and can’t do regarding cannabis

[Jsmegs77]

No tinfoil hat here. That’s why it was added to the 4473 form. I think you’re spot on. I think what will happen and what they are counting on is that younger people will chose weed over guns and this will be a way to diminish the amount of gun owners. When there are few gun owners the attack on the 2a will be much easier and more successful.

My guess at their angle was more along the lines of generating lists of known users and holding those up with 4473’s (come on, you didn’t really think that info was collected for point of sale only did you?), firearm registries/permit holder records, and the like.

Starting with denial of future acquisitions and moving toward a confiscation push, sold in the media as “eliminating dangerous firearms from known drug users”.

 

[stokes]

Yes,if you have or want a gun, you shouldnt use it and you surely shouldnt get on any list the dispensaries will supply to the gov. The feds are sure to drop their laws against it....they see the potential windfall when they can tax it too.

 

[GOPerfect]

Hell, I am too the point of just not caring any longer about any of this stupid shit. Wanna be a pot head? Go right ahead. Wanna be a drunk? Again, go right ahead. Wanna be a Junkie or a crack whore? By all means shoot up and smoke away. But, the tax payers of this once great nation need to be let off the hook when bad comes into your life due to these things.

In Erie County, another tax payer funded program is about to begin; costing millions of dollars to assist the Junkies in their detox program while incarcerated. We spend millions of dollars in Narcan. Stop that as well. These people all have choices and I say let them all deal with their life issues because of their choices.

 

[dwa12479]

^^^ This right here says it all.

There's no pre employment testing for alcohol. Why should there be for cannabis?

You show up for work drunk or tipsy and you're sent home for the day, or for good.
You show up stoned you're sent home for the day, or for good.

NYS is an at will employment state, meaning you can be terminated for just about anything.

Alcohol is legal. Now cannabis is legal. That doesn't mean consumption of either before or during work hours are permissible.

You guys who support the drug testing are not thinking this through rationally. Not testing for hiring reasons doesn't translate into permission to work while stoned.

The difference is cannabis residuals will stay in your system for 30 days after your last use. If someone is a totally responsible consumer of cannabis, just like a responsible alcohol drinker, they'd never be hired because of the residual in their system. An alcoholic could be hired without ever knowing you just hired an abuser.

This X a million

 

[JamieZ]

A 6 pack consumed in 2 hours is no where near close to smoking a pound of weed. Shitty weed from years ago maybe. Again keep in mind there is a huge difference in smoking a joint from the 70’s and smoking a joint of the boutique weed of today. The edibles are highly potent and people react to edibles much stronger and differently than smoking weed. Much research has been done on this and the information is readily available of your choose to seek it out.
I was just talking to a friend who uses edibles this weekend and they make him hallucinate and feel things that aren’t happening to him. That’s just the recommended dose. Many use over that since edibles take a while to kick in. A few beers will not do that.
There is much information out there on these effects. Don’t take my word for it since I use neither alcohol or any drugs.

Again not the point of this thread, but that’s fine.
Five things you should know about marijuana edibles

Yes you are right and I am wrong.

Sorry,,, just like guns, I dont know what the shoulder thing that goes up is.



It amazes me the people in this world who think they know something but have no clue,,, damn them fucking liberals








Seriously,,, I apologize, Im just busting your chops. Sorry about that bud........ I just couldn't resist LoL

 

[OwnTheRide]

It is but I worry about theft even if Murder is worse.

Failed analogy - neither murder nor theft are legal.

 

[Shadow rider]

You guys who support the drug testing are not thinking this through rationally. Not testing for hiring reasons doesn't translate into permission to work while stoned.

The difference is cannabis residuals will stay in your system for 30 days after your last use. If someone is a totally responsible consumer of cannabis, just like a responsible alcohol drinker, they'd never be hired because of the residual in their system. An alcoholic could be hired without ever knowing you just hired an abuser.

This... 100%

 

[JamieZ]

Failed analogy - neither murder nor theft are legal.

But, but he is trying to say that weed turns people into thieves and murders. The shit is just like meth, heroin and crack,,,, it turns people into killers.


Actually the only thing you might steal or kill while high on weed is a box of Lucky Charms from your families cupboard

 

[masterswimmer]

But, but he is trying to say that weed turns people into thieves and murders. The shit is just like meth, heroin and crack,,,, it turns people into killers.


Actually the only thing you might steal or kill while high on weed is a box of Lucky Charms from your families cupboard

That's total bull!
I prefer Pop Tarts. Can't stand Lucky Charms.

 

[JamieZ]

That's total bull!
I prefer Pop Tarts. Can't stand Lucky Charms.

Ahhhhh but watching Scooby-Doo and eating a box of Lucky Charms was paradise when I was a kid

 

[masterswimmer]

Ahhhhh but watching Scooby-Doo and eating a box of Lucky Charms was paradise when I was a kid

Scooby was the best. But once again, I'd be downing a box of Coco Krispies, while playing with my Klick Klacks.

 

[Acer-m14]

But, but he is trying to say that weed turns people into thieves and murders. The shit is just like meth, heroin and crack,,,, it turns people into killers.


Actually the only thing you might steal or kill while high on weed is a box of Lucky Charms from your families cupboard

steels your marsh mellows from the lucky charms lol ..

 

[spat]

The main reason for this is because current testing standards have not yet been developed to determine level of impairment at any given time. My metabolism may be so vastly different from the next guy's that I show 4x the metabolite they do when I smoked 2 weeks ago, and they are a daily user.

I also know very accomplished people in esteemed positions that are users. People talk about a silent majority; well pot users have been a silent majority in this country for decades.

I normally don't support government intrusion but drug testing policies are backwards when it comes to marijuana; especially in states where it's "legal."

Like everything else, I think it's flawed people who have problems with drugs, and not drugs that make them flawed.

But drugs can sure screw someone up badly.

I know some people who use pot recreationally and have no trouble.

But just like alcohol, some people will let it take over their lives.

I've seen what heavy chronic use can do, and it can take a very smart person and turn them into a Joe Biden level intellect.

But, freedom does not exist if people aren't allowed to make bad choices, so it is what it is.

 

[spat]

A 6 pack consumed in 2 hours is no where near close to smoking a pound of weed. Shitty weed from years ago maybe. Again keep in mind there is a huge difference in smoking a joint from the 70’s and smoking a joint of the boutique weed of today. The edibles are highly potent and people react to edibles much stronger and differently than smoking weed. Much research has been done on this and the information is readily available of your choose to seek it out.
I was just talking to a friend who uses edibles this weekend and they make him hallucinate and feel things that aren’t happening to him. That’s just the recommended dose. Many use over that since edibles take a while to kick in. A few beers will not do that.
There is much information out there on these effects. Don’t take my word for it since I use neither alcohol or any drugs.

Again not the point of this thread, but that’s fine.
Five things you should know about marijuana edibles

Maybe we should be writing the laws based on what actually matters, and not some proxy for it.

What we care about for DWI is judgement and reaction time.

If it's impaired, does it really matter the cause, or tolerance level of the driver ?

If it's not impaired does it matter what their blood chemistry is ?

So, the law should be based on the actual important metric. If you're judgement or reaction time is compromised, it doesn't matter if it was weed, alcohol, age, or sleep deprivation that caused it.

If you're judgment and reaction time are not below the standard, then why does society care ?


I'm pretty Michael Schumacher can drive better at twice the legal limit than your aunt mildred can stone cold sober.

So, which if them do we want to take off the road ?

 

[Blimey]

But, but he is trying to say that weed turns people into thieves and murders. The shit is just like meth, heroin and crack,,,, it turns people into killers.


Actually the only thing you might steal or kill while high on weed is a box of Lucky Charms from your families cupboard

I thought my analogy was simple... It definitely had nothing to do with weed turning people into murderers.

 

[JamieZ]

I thought my analogy was simple... It definitely had nothing to do with weed turning people into murderers.

Sorry I took things out of context. Its just that this entire thread cracks me up.

 

[Toecutter]

My issue with testing is it dictates what you can do on your own time. No problem people being clean while working . But what they do on their own time is up to them.

Funny how all these laws only effect the blue collar working class. I know plenty of white collar guys who drink regularly during the work day. Not uncommon at all to have a bottle in the desk drawer. Shit I knew someone who worked at the corporate headquarters for a bank and they had a bar cart in the office on Friday's.

But God forbid the guy tossing your trash in the back of a truck smokes a joint after work.

 

[Modean]

Sorry I took things out of context. Its just that this entire thread cracks me up.

Yep. The reefer madness propaganda worked on some.

 

[stokes]

"Funny how all these laws only effect the blue collar working class. I know plenty of white collar guys who drink regularly during the work day".

Not just alcohol.Know anybody that works or worked on Wall Street? Biggest bunch of daytime coke fiends in the world.At least it was prior to 911, not sure about these days, but I cant think of a reason it would have changed.

 

[masterswimmer]

Not just alcohol.Know anybody that works or worked on Wall Street? Biggest bunch of daytime coke fiends in the world.At least it was prior to 911, not sure about these days, but I cant think of a reason it would have changed.

Started my career on Wall St back in 1981. Yup, coke fiends as far back as then. I'm sure even farther back, I just can't confirm first hand.

 

[Acer-m14]

i'm still looking for a video of someone that can smoke a pound of weed in 2 hours .. even brick weed from the 60's / 70's .. for proof ..

i do know a girl that can eat a 10 lbs of food in less the 10 minutes ..

 

[JamieZ]

i'm still looking for a video of someone that can smoke a pound of weed in 2 hours .. even brick weed from the 60's / 70's .. for proof ..

i do know a girl that can eat a 10 lbs of food in less the 10 minutes ..

Im at a loss. What does smoking a pound of weed in 2 hours have to do with this thread? Was it written somewhere?

 

[meketrefe]

Snoop Dog said Bring it On!

 

[Acer-m14]

Im at a loss. What does smoking a pound of weed in 2 hours have to do with this thread? Was it written somewhere?

"
Saltwater60 said:
A 6 pack consumed in 2 hours is no where near close to smoking a pound of weed. Shitty weed from years ago maybe. Again keep in mind there is a huge difference in smoking a joint from the 70’s and smoking a joint of the boutique weed of today"

and now we have beer that is 5% .. 6% .. then the IPA beer 10 , 11 15 ..

even with todays weed .. your not getting off the sofa to make a weed run .. but beer .. LOL ..

PS .. see post #7

 

[MothMan]

New York Marijuana Regulators Approve Rules For Hemp Flower Sales, Delta-8 THC And More - Marijuana Moment

New York marijuana regulators on Wednesday approved rules for the state’s cannabinoid hemp program, notably clarifying that flower from the crop can be sold but delta-8 THC products are currently prohibited from being marketed. Hemp-infused foods and beverages will also be allowed. The state...

www.marijuanamoment.net

 

[MothMan]

Big business…

Illinois Has Sold More Than $1 Billion In Marijuana So Far This Year, State Officially Announces - Marijuana Moment

Illinois has officially exceeded $1 billion in adult-use marijuana sales in 2021, a major economic milestone since the state launched its retail market last year. The Illinois Department of Financial and Professional Regulation (IDFPR) reported on Tuesday that there were $123,375,372 in...

www.marijuanamoment.net

 

[MothMan]

CNY towns and villages prepare for marijuana shops with little guidance from New York

 

[Saltwater60]

CNY towns and villages prepare for marijuana shops with little guidance from New York

NYS wants these places to make a decision on if they will allow these sales and they have no guidance. None. They have done nothing to prepare for this.

 

[Acer-m14]

New York Marijuana Regulators Approve Rules For Hemp Flower Sales, Delta-8 THC And More - Marijuana Moment

New York marijuana regulators on Wednesday approved rules for the state’s cannabinoid hemp program, notably clarifying that flower from the crop can be sold but delta-8 THC products are currently prohibited from being marketed. Hemp-infused foods and beverages will also be allowed. The state...

www.marijuanamoment.net

delta hemp bad bad bad .. its HEMP .. Makes good rope and other shit too ..

Businesses in Limbo as Legality of Delta-8 Ban is Sorted Out

As the legality of Delta-8 THC is sorted out in courts, some Texas businesses continue selling products containing it.

www.nbcdfw.com

they really need to learn the differences from HEMP (very low THC.. ) and Cannabis ( the high you get from THC ) ..