NYSRPA v. Bruen, NY 2A Case Supreme Court case and decision
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You missed the rest. Nobody is saying everyone is getting patted down. Im saying if someone suspects you and calls on you the police WILL pat you down and you will get the charge. Maybe you were wearing a camo hat. Maybe a "Winchester" shirt. Maybe it was something they overheard you say. The public and shop owners will be ultra sensitive now. This is high profile. IF someone has a suspicion and they make that call, you will be patted down and the jig will be up.
spat
.950 JDJ
Maybe you walk in unarmed with the winchester shirt, then sue the shit out of them when they call.
Can't take too many of those before they learn the lesson.
Doesn't work that way. The complaint is you were suspicious. The pat down is completely constitutional. Its been upheld over and over. Any encounter. Pat pat pat. No weapon, no problem. Again, its not a search.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
If anyone is wondering why NY sucks for gun owners simply re read this post.
I guess he missed the part where you are supposed to practice.
spat
.950 JDJ
You're not suing the cops, you're suing the business that called them.
And it doesn't matter if you win. How many of those cases do you think they want to win ?
i see this has gotten lost in the chaff of heil hochul's unConstitutional and illegal behavior.
So what do these rulings mean for Americans caught behind new york's great wall of tyranny?
The "assault weapon" ban is null.
Magazine limits are null.
And the Supreme Court upheld (again) that it is our Right to carry for defense.
It means that in those areas (9th 3rd and 4th respectively) magazine bans and awb are to be ruled unconstitutional.
This has no immediate impact on NY (2nd Circuit) but it is going to set legal precedent for future litigation in other areas, like here in NY
GOYABEAN
.950 JDJ
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
your Governor .. i dont need data to keep people safe .. LOL ..
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
After reading your posts you seem familiar, the NYGF member that you remind me of that seemed to disappear from here had "USA" in his username too.
4WHLDRFTN
.308 Win
BOOM
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Sometimes turds don't flush.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
posted this question in another related thread ..
okay .. the SCOTUS made up Qualified Immunity for LEO ... correct ? they cant be there when shit happens .. persay ..
if yes ..
then the governor and staff have no protection .. its only for LEO
the Governor has no duty to protects us (people) .. just protect the State from the other states that boarder NY that want to infringe on NY
i added a bit more then my other post ..
hay Gov .. if you really want to protect the people of NY and keep us safe .. ban winter in Erie County ..
okay .. the SCOTUS made up Qualified Immunity for LEO ... correct ? they cant be there when shit happens .. persay ..
if yes ..
then the governor and staff have no protection .. its only for LEO
the Governor has no duty to protects us (people) .. just protect the State from the other states that boarder NY that want to infringe on NY
i added a bit more then my other post ..
hay Gov .. if you really want to protect the people of NY and keep us safe .. ban winter in Erie County ..
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
So my wife and I travel for business and stay at motels. If the motel doesn't have a "permission sign" we're not allowed to have a firearm at that location. Going to be even more interesting for women who travel alone. Think I'll identify as the NY governor and request NYSP armed guards outside all night.
Im.still here
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
Well, you're a fucking pirate, not a turd.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
just great Corgi .... now Ed will turn into a pirate turd just because he can lol
ArmedCorgi
.475 A&M Magnum
I mean, what form(s) would you take?
Bigfoot
.475 A&M Magnum
This 2A Supreme Court decision really brought out the tyrant in FUKH.
Her mask is completely off now. She has exposed herself as a traitor to our Constitution.
The enemy of freedom loving people.
FUKH
Her mask is completely off now. She has exposed herself as a traitor to our Constitution.
The enemy of freedom loving people.
FUKH
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Acer-m14
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and brought out more then just her .. hello Elected Sheriffs .. hello Elected local judges .. that will obey her ..
Acer-m14
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i had to think a bit on form of a turd i would take ..
im thinking the splatter type .. LOL
Acer-m14
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New York's Attack TODAY on Gun Rights is Unconstitutional and Wrong
July 1st ^^
spat
.950 JDJ
The NY/CA overreaction might actually be a good thing in the long run.
If we can get this back to SCOTUS while we've still got the same 5 justices we could get a ruling that you can't restrict firearm ownership anywhere you don't actually have controlled access (i.e. metal detectors and guards) because otherwise you are arbitrarily restricting the rights of the law abiding people while doing nothing at all to prevent criminals from bringing in guns.
If we can get this back to SCOTUS while we've still got the same 5 justices we could get a ruling that you can't restrict firearm ownership anywhere you don't actually have controlled access (i.e. metal detectors and guards) because otherwise you are arbitrarily restricting the rights of the law abiding people while doing nothing at all to prevent criminals from bringing in guns.
An injunction in the meantime would be great, but who is pursuing action?
This, I think is the general consensus among the armed. It's a question of who will be taking one (or taking several, or many?) for the team in order to facilitate the SC showdown.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
I don’t think anyone has to take one for the team to start it’s way to the SC?
I have watched several police encounters recently in an urban area..
First, a man ran off with a laptop computer from a repair shop, while owner was working on another box. I was there.
Cops called..no response..fool thief was seen close by, shortly thereafter, with stolen computer, and shop owner and friend chased the thief down and assaulted him, confined him and dragged him and computer back by the ear. Not me, my knees are too bad to run.
Cops came..released guy because computer was now back....no appearance tickets, cops winked at shop owner and left....no one patted down.
Another incident involving a car accident close by.....one party to hospital, other driver questioned, and left by other vehicle..no pat downs.
3rd incident in same area....madman with no shirt, carrying a 2 x 4 began slamming it down on pavement in anger at someone close by; cops came took 2 x 4 let him go...no pat downs.
I am not saying that pat downs may never happen, but you have to be very suspicious, and really nuts, to generate that kind of behavior from cops.
"Appearance tickets" are the norm today ,and as few of them that can be written/generated, is also the norm.
This paranoia sounds like the old "Narcs" paranoia from the 1970's.
No cop is going to find you, for normal behavior, for slipping a gun into your pocket to go out for a bottle of milk after dark....why would he stop you?
Ships passing in the night.........do not display the gun in any way, like 1ames bond....
Bar room carry, is an invitation to ail for sure.
First, a man ran off with a laptop computer from a repair shop, while owner was working on another box. I was there.
Cops called..no response..fool thief was seen close by, shortly thereafter, with stolen computer, and shop owner and friend chased the thief down and assaulted him, confined him and dragged him and computer back by the ear. Not me, my knees are too bad to run.
Cops came..released guy because computer was now back....no appearance tickets, cops winked at shop owner and left....no one patted down.
Another incident involving a car accident close by.....one party to hospital, other driver questioned, and left by other vehicle..no pat downs.
3rd incident in same area....madman with no shirt, carrying a 2 x 4 began slamming it down on pavement in anger at someone close by; cops came took 2 x 4 let him go...no pat downs.
I am not saying that pat downs may never happen, but you have to be very suspicious, and really nuts, to generate that kind of behavior from cops.
"Appearance tickets" are the norm today ,and as few of them that can be written/generated, is also the norm.
This paranoia sounds like the old "Narcs" paranoia from the 1970's.
No cop is going to find you, for normal behavior, for slipping a gun into your pocket to go out for a bottle of milk after dark....why would he stop you?
Ships passing in the night.........do not display the gun in any way, like 1ames bond....
Bar room carry, is an invitation to ail for sure.
Cavalry
.338 Win Mag
So what about the last 100+ years when it was perfectly legal to carry in a bar in NY? Where were the wild west shootouts?
I do not think its appropriate to be shit faced drunk at 2am while carrying but I also do not think a law should prohibit that action. There are already laws prohibiting shooting someone unjustified, menacing, etc that should be enough.
We are not talking about just bars here, we are talking about places that serve alcohol. Go out to dinner at shithole applebees or any thousands of other "bar and grill" type establishments and you would need to be disarmed.