Officer Fatally Shoots Family Labrador Retriever In Front of Children and Owner

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Appalled at this. Hoping there’s some real consequences for the officer but I’m sure there won’t be, although the body cam footage is pretty damning.

Lorain Police release bodycam of family’s pet dog shot and killed by officer

A family’s pet lab mix was gunned down in their neighbor’s driveway this holiday weekend. The three-year-old lab mix named Dixie was shot and killed by a Lorain police officer. The shooting is still under investigation.
www.cleveland19.com www.cleveland19.com
 
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Anyone ever look at European policing methods? Nothing like this happens there. If so, its so very very rare. I am fascinated at how well these European departments de-escalate situations and truthfully when under pressure, appear far more professional that our own. Today we see a police officer acting like an emotionless robot and call them professional. If you can't handle a "family pet dog" then the job isn't for you. You are the intruder to it.
Actually there is a long list of Alpha traits an officer should posses today but that isn't socially acceptable. lol

I just looked at the link. F*&^ing ridiculous. How the hell does this person get on a department? Fire and charge. We charge owners for abuse of their pets and in some cases send them to jail. So make an example of this POS.
 
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He's just a fucking schmuck with a fucking Ego problem... Shouldn't be wearing a badge and should most certainly lose his employment! I guess if anyone walked towards him at a brisk pace they'd be a threat and dealt with too... I'm sorry, but this guy is a problem, whatever it might be, but still a problem! And as such, should be dealt with, but in all probability won't be... Not sure I would've survived this encounter because I most certainly would've been in that MF'ers face!

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This problem will only get worse as more and more PD's lower their recruitment standards just to maintain their ranks. Experienced good cops have been forced out by the de-fund crowd, and now we enter the vicious cycle.

This PIG had no idea how to read the potential situation and plan an appropriate response. Even if he was unsure, he should have had his mace ready to deploy first, rather than his sidearm.

Also, you don't make gestures or give commands to a dog you are unfamiliar with, since you don't know how they may be interpreted. His finger pointing at the first dog may have been a command trigger for Dixie.
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One of the biggest problems I see with police is they don't teach de-escalation correctly, nor do they use the de-escalation tactics enough.

Many countries outside the US, their police don't even carry guns, unless they are called in or they are of certain rank or detail. They master and use the art of de-escalation tactics on most if not all situations.

Which brings in the fact that there is so much militarization of local and city police that it actually infringes on our armed forces. I have a few friends that are in the National Guard, that they view most police departments that buy the surplus or outright buy military style equipment as infringing on their duties, to the point of undermining their operations and training programs.
 
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rushmore said:
Appalled at this. Hoping there’s some real consequences for the officer but I’m sure there won’t be, although the body cam footage is pretty damning.

Lorain Police release bodycam of family’s pet dog shot and killed by officer

A family’s pet lab mix was gunned down in their neighbor’s driveway this holiday weekend. The three-year-old lab mix named Dixie was shot and killed by a Lorain police officer. The shooting is still under investigation.
www.cleveland19.com www.cleveland19.com
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First asshole - fuck him. He deserves to be fired, charged and sentenced to work in a dog shelter scooping shit for years. Too many pussies getting hired lately.
Second asshole - I'll hold judgement.

I once threatened to shoot a detective on a scene I was on. Had a DOA and he shows up. Pittie was scared shitless since her human was dead and a bunch of strangers in her house. He goes "I'll shoot that dog." I immediately replied "Not if I shoot you first. Better idea, get the fuck off my scene". Wound up wrasslin the pup into a collar and leash to take to an animal hospital. She was perfectly fine just scared.
 
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ManualF150 said:
One of the biggest problems I see with police is they don't teach de-escalation correctly, nor do they use the de-escalation tactics enough.

Many countries outside the US, their police don't even carry guns, unless they are called in or they are of certain rank or detail. They master and use the art of de-escalation tactics on most if not all situations.

Which brings in the fact that there is so much militarization of local and city police that it actually infringes on our armed forces. I have a few friends that are in the National Guard, that they view most police departments that buy the surplus or outright buy military style equipment as infringing on their duties, to the point of undermining their operations and training programs.
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Not to change topics, and feel free to PM if you prefer. What do you think de-escalation looks like? And how are we taught de-escalation specifically?

You can only reason with reasonable people. Other countries outside the US don't have the level of non-compliance and outright hostility that we deal with. They're also somewhat homogenous countries with similar beliefs (usuallly). Don't see the difference there?

Define militarization? My agency still refuses to authorize BDU pants. Does that assuage your fear of the militarization? Is it the issuance of outer vest carriers? The reason for that is less pressure on my lower back, which is greatly appreciated. Is it some armored vehicles? Newsflash - we've had armored vehicles since the 30's. Brinks was the first to donate to police agencies. Not like we've ever needed armored protection from incoming fire ever. If you'd like specific incidents and dates I can give you several.
 
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lrick said:
This problem will only get worse as more and more PD's lower their recruitment standards just to maintain their ranks. Experienced good cops have been forced out by the de-fund crowd, and now we enter the vicious cycle.

This PIG had no idea how to read the potential situation and plan an appropriate response. Even if he was unsure, he should have had his mace ready to deploy first, rather than his sidearm.

Also, you don't make gestures or give commands to a dog you are unfamiliar with, since you don't know how they may be interpreted. His finger pointing at the first dog may have been a command trigger for Dixie.
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This. 1000x this.
Just as an FYI - Mace does NOT work on dogs. It affects tear ducts, like tear gas. Pepper spray (OC) does as it affects the mucous membranes.
 
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I refuse to watch the video. My dog is my best friend and anyone that hurt her I would take great pleasure in inflicting my pain on them. It is getting harder and harder to support the police. It’s like they actively recruit cowardly people and people with big egos.
 
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