PA Murder/Suicide (Graphic Dsiturbing Video)

[Bigfoot]

I nearly never instigate a verbal confrontation, but I never back down once someone starts.

Same with myself... My father taught me well.
Never be someone's doormat. I never back down, that makes the wife nervous at times.
But I don't start shit neither. I just as soon be left alone.

 

[tirwin1]

I read a long multi page thread about this last night. One guy in that thread lives a mile down the street from where this happened. IT WASN'T ABOUT THE SNOW.

The scumbags that got shot have been harassing and threatening the guy that shot the two
for a long time. After 2-3 years of being harassed and repeated threats of physical harm the guy snapped on that particular day. It wasn't over the snow. Everyone has a breaking point and the two scumbags pushed the guy who shot and killed them beyond his limit.

Right in this video alone the one guy made verbal threats of bodily harm to the other guy.
Now I'm not saying what happened was right, of course it wasn't.

The big mouth guy that was making threats of bodily harm was known for using bullying and intimidation on the people in the area. The police has had numerous encounters with the guy.

Shit even when the guy comes out with the gun instead of retreating they kept up with their mouths. The woman actually advanced toward the guy with the gun, still running her mouth.
I think that they were used to intimidation working for them. This time it didn't.

One of my closest friends was tormented by his asshole neighbors for years.
I seen first hand what an accumulation of verbal threats and generally making his living conditions horrible over time can do to someone's state of mind. My friend owned his house and seriously considered selling his house. The assholes were renters. They were trash FSA people. Luckily for my friend the trash people were evicted.

There comes a time when someone just snaps and decides not to be someone else's doormat any longer.

All that I am saying is don't be surprised when bad shit happens if one pushes someone else's buttons over and over and over and over... This wasn't about that particular day or the snow.

I suspected there was a history between these two after watching the video, and that the two shooting victims were most likely assholes that pushed their luck just a bit too far. It is unfortunate the shooter could not walk away but as you mentioned there comes a time when a person will simply snap and not take abuse any longer. Thanks for the background information.

I think this video is symbolic of what is going to happen in this country in the very near future. Conservatives, libertarians or people that just want to be left alone are going to be pushed and abused by a vengeful democratic party. Look at what has happened in the past two weeks:

• the second trump impeachment
• the proposed gun laws
• the "suggestion" on msnbc that domestic terrorists (i.e. trump voters) should be taken out by drones
• the continued stationing of troops in DC
• the purge within the military of people with the wrong beliefs

You get the picture. Do you think this type of behavior won't continue as these arrogant pricks in washington get emboldened each new week?

At some point in time people are going to snap. And the result won't be pretty.

The violence this summer is easily going to surpass what we saw last year.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Not for nothing, but when I was in the Police Academy, in a different time, (1970) an old-timer gave us some of his advice. He said Now understand this. You are going to be entering people's homes. You will observe a big old beer-bellied guy quietly sitting in a rocker drinking his beer and then see his tiny little wife sporting a fresh strawberry on her eye. (Bruise) You are going to feel sorry for her and want to rough up the husband. But let me tell you this. 99% of the time, the whole incident was her fault. He was referring to her always having to have the last word and bitching until the guy couldn't take it anymore. At 1:10 of the clip, you will see what I mean. He returns with a reload and approaches the woman. What he says next probably explains the whole thing. Just sayin.

 

[cgrutt]

Not for nothing, but when I was in the Police Academy, in a different time, (1970) an old-timer gave us some of his advice. He said Now understand this. You are going to be entering people's homes. You will observe a big old beer-bellied guy quietly sitting in a rocker drinking his beer and then see his tiny little wife sporting a fresh strawberry on her eye. (Bruise) You are going to feel sorry for her and want to rough up the husband. But let me tell you this. 99% of the time, the whole incident was her fault. He was referring to her always having to have the last word and bitching until the guy couldn't take it anymore. At 1:01 of the clip, you will see what I mean. He returns with a reload and approaches the woman. What he says next probably explains the whole thing. Just sayin.

Funny my take on that comment was shooter's gripe was with her husband and had she not said anything she'd still be above ground. The whole straw that broke the camels back argument flies out the window the moment he decided to pick up a gun and brutally murder two unarmed people. Obviously let his inner demons get the best of him and he'll forever be remembered as a cowardly murderer. Plenty of things he could have done before this came to pass no matter what the background. There was no imminent threat of deadly physical force or bodily harm he should have called the cops or a therapist or stood up to his asshole neighbor(s) long ago and settled the dispute fairly.

 

[togmaster]

Funny my take on that comment was shooter's gripe was with her husband and had she not said anything she'd still be above ground. The whole straw that broke the camels back argument flies out the window the moment he decided to pick up a gun and brutally murder two unarmed people. Obviously let his inner demons get the best of him and he'll forever be remembered as a cowardly murderer. Plenty of things he could have done before this came to pass no matter what the background. There was no imminent threat of deadly physical force or bodily harm he should have called the cops or a therapist or stood up to his asshole neighbor(s) long ago and settled the dispute fairly.

There you go making sense again and ruining this whole thread.

 

[Darth]

If the "but she was REALLY annoying" posts were supposed to show that words might be justified in being met with shooting I guess they failed.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Funny my take on that comment was shooter's gripe was with her husband and had she not said anything she'd still be above ground. The whole straw that broke the camels back argument flies out the window the moment he decided to pick up a gun and brutally murder two unarmed people. Obviously let his inner demons get the best of him and he'll forever be remembered as a cowardly murderer. Plenty of things he could have done before this came to pass no matter what the background. There was no imminent threat of deadly physical force or bodily harm he should have called the cops or a therapist or stood up to his asshole neighbor(s) long ago and settled the dispute fairly.

Maybe, but if she was bitching about the guy shoveling his snow in the street and then after the name-calling started, the husband knew that if he didn't respond he would have to take the brunt of her bitching at him for the rest of the day and evening. Why didn't you say something! he called me a bitch! You should have punched him. etc. I will give the husband credit however, Look who was shoveling his driveway.

 

[BerettaGuy]

If the "but she was REALLY annoying" posts were supposed to show that words might be justified in being met with shooting I guess they failed.

Nothing justifies it, Just trying to make sense of it.

 

[VietnamEraVet]

IMHO bullies suck. And I have run into my share of them in my life. Most of us just want to be left alone to live our lives, free of some asshole fucking with us on a daily basis just for their own sick twisted gratification.

Today, you really can’t settle things in a way that the bullies will get the message: leave me alone! Too many BS lawsuits or criminal charges to deal with.

But I am reminded of a certain bullying asshole from my youth. He constantly picked on anybody and everybody he could, starting in 3rd grade. Karma eventually caught up to him in the 5th grade. One day during gym class outdoors, he came up and attacked several of us, myself included, while we were at the far end of the field. And on that day, things changed forever.

We counterattacked, beat the shit out of him. We broke his arm, and kicked him in the head and body enough that when we were done, we left him there in a crying lump.

He was in a cast for a couple of months. He never ratted us out,- but he kept his distance from us the rest of his school days. Nowadays, he still lives in the same town. He is a janitor. And he doesn’t raise his voice to anyone. I don’t feel the least bit sorry for him either.

 

[cgrutt]

 

[Darth]

Nothing justifies it, Just trying to make sense of it.

Crazy people exist.

 

[Bigfoot]

Nothing justifies it, Just trying to make sense of it.

^^^ THIS ^^^

 

[Bigfoot]

Maybe, but if she was bitching about the guy shoveling his snow in the street and then after the name-calling started, the husband knew that if he didn't respond he would have to take the brunt of her bitching at him for the rest of the day and evening. Why didn't you say something! he called me a bitch! You should have punched him. etc. I will give the husband credit however, Look who was shoveling his driveway.

I have seen that in bars. A woman starts shit, then her guy automatically gets pulled into it.
The guy cannot appear weak in front of his woman... Then it's game on.

 

[crunchberry]

Don't let other people get the best of you. If you "never back down" to other peoples stupid shit you will just get dragged down by their stupidity. Proving yourself to a raving tard proves nothing.

 

[Darth]

A guy can't appear weak in front of his woman? Why? There might be a bad outcome?

Glad they dodged that.

 

[holdover]

I can appreciate the guys anger if he had to tolerate these people daily. But you cant kill people if they're assholes. I dont condone what he did , But I can understand it. Im sure he felt he couldnt kick the guys ass and the frustration mounted. Im a big believer in martial arts for this reason . Even if you dont clearly win , You made a point and you wont backdown. Unless he wants to fight you everyday he wont bother you much anymore.

Honestly he probably could have evened the odds with a tire iron and a shot of Jack and Taught the guy a lesson.

 

[Vicarious]

This is why I don't argue with people over the small shit. You never know what crazy shit is wrong with someone.

My wife tends to get pist at the drop of a hat over things that I gloss over. Unless it's big / worth arguing over, I'm not going to fight small battles with people.

My reluctance to fight small battles shouldn't be seen as a weakness on larger ones, however.

same with road rage, fools errand, and I avoid that stuff

 

[spat]

I have seen that in bars. A woman starts shit, then her guy automatically gets pulled into it.
The guy cannot appear weak in front of his woman... Then it's game on.

If you're a guy who's with a woman who does that, then it's your fault for not walking away when you realized it.

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

If you're a guy who's with a woman who does that, then it's your fault for not walking away when you realized it.

Disagree. How come it's never the woman's fault when it's the other way around?

 

[spat]

Disagree. How come it's never the woman's fault when it's the other way around?

Oh, it's her fault for not leaving the asshole too.

 

[Toecutter]

I dont know if this had been posted . I tend to carry even when I. I'm the house or my yard.

Link-https://youtu.be/Id9pd8zfQcs-link

 

[BuffNiag]

PA Murder/Suicide (Graphic Dsiturbing Video)

Crazy shit here, I guess it was a long standing neighbor quarrel, this time over snow. Goes to show you how ineffective a pistol can be at stopping a threat. I want to know what they were thinking when he opened up with the pistol, everyone is just standing around? Hard to tell but is the...

nygunforum.com

 

[Deplorable Me]

The strangeness of society. In my neighborhood my neighbor snowblows the end of my driveway and mailbox if I'm not around and vice-versa. We both cover 2 other houses as needed.

 

[S&W Fan]

Christ , that dude had more than just a screw loose. WTF !

 

[Modean]

While I can’t condone shooting unarmed individuals, they did a whole lot to bring it on themselves. Something everyone should remember before getting into a shouting match. You never know what the other guy is capable of in the heat of the moment.

 

[Edwardteach72]

While I can’t condone shooting unarmed individuals, they did a whole lot to bring it on themselves. Something everyone should remember before getting into a shouting match. You never know what the other guy is capable of in the heat of the moment.

Ah yes calling someone names = getting shot to death

 

[Robin]

Like I said before. Why don't these murderous assholes just kill themselves first.
Robin

 

[Modean]

Ah yes calling someone names = getting shot to death

It can, as this incident shows. As I said, you never know what the other guy is capable of in the heat of the moment. Something to consider before engaging in verbal altercations. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

 

[Edwardteach72]

It can, as this incident shows. As I said, you never know what the other guy is capable of in the heat of the moment. Something to consider before engaging in verbal altercations. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

Lmao again you are saying calling someone names is justification for that person who got called names to shoot them

 

[Edwardteach72]

While I can’t condone shooting unarmed individuals, they did a whole lot to bring it on themselves.

Yup calling someone a mean name gives that person justification to shoot them