Permit for Semi-Auto Rifle

[That_FNG]

For anybody in Erie county you are extra fucked. Most counties in NYS simply let you get an amendment to your pistol permit that says “semi auto rifle” to some degree. Basically show your permit and you are good to purchase. Erie county is refusing to do abs instead is interpreting the new law differently. For Erie county you are now required to get a purchase coupon from the FFL with the rifles info like you would a pistol. You have to go and add it to your permit so your permit lists the rifles serial number, caliber etc. once added you then can go back and pick up the rifle.

 

[Blackjack]

From firearms training wny.

We have been on the phone and emailing many many counties, all day today. We have started to compile a list of how each county will proceed with the "Semi Auto License". Many counties do not have an answer yet. This info is only for those that have a NY Pistol License already. We will keep updating the list below as we receive more replies.

Semi Auto Rifle Permit Info -

Erie county, current permit holders can add a semi auto rifle same as a handgun. Nothing will be on the permit other the semi auto rifle info. Such as make, model, serial number and caliber. So they will NOT put “Semi Auto Rifle Permit” on actual pistol license. Bring in purchase receipt for semi auto rifle to the permit office. $5 for new card with Rifle listed on card same as a handgun. They will be adding semi auto rifles to permits at the Hamburg gun show this weekend as well.

Cattaraugus County - Bring in pistol license, fill out amendment form, pay for new card and they will add Semi Auto Rifle permit to your card (no registration of any rifles or adding serial numbers to pistol license) - FYI- The Catt County computer software still needs an update, waiting on the vendor for update, could take 5 to 10 business days for them to have computer update to be able to amend permits. EXISTING Catt permit holders, per Sheriff Whitcomb You can still purchase a Semi Auto, without an Semi-Auto amendment on your permit.

Genesee County - Bring in pistol license, fill out amendment form, pay $6 for new card and they will add Semi Auto Rifle permit to your card (no registration of any rifles or adding serial numbers to pistol license)

Niagara County - Bring in pistol license, fill out amendment form, pay for new card and they will add Semi Auto Rifle permit to your card (They are also adding semi auto rifle serial numbers to your pistol license, treating them just like a handgun purchase) - They will also be doing this at the Hamburg gun show this weekend.

Livingston County. Bring in pistol license, fill out amendment form, pay $5 for a new card and they will add Semi Auto Rifle permit to your card.

Schenectady County- Email CountyClerk@schenectadycounty.com with your:
a. Name
b. Schenectady County Pistol Permit ID number
c. Indicate that you would like to add the semi-automatic rifle endorsement (NO other
changes or amendments can be made by email)
2. You will receive a response from County Clerk staff that your request has been received, and
we will notify you of the day/date in which you can stop in. No appointment is required for these endorsements, you can arrive any time during the appropriate date. We will be processing amendments on a first come, first served basis. If you have a preference, please indicate which day would be best for you in the email and we will do our best to honor it.
3. Stop into the Clerk’s Office at any time on the appropriate date to sign your amendment forms and receive a new permit indicating your endorsement.

Saratoga County - Apply by mail for an Amendment, cost is $3 and it takes 2 to 3 weeks by mail. The amendment form and instructions are available below. Please mail in your completed amendment form and fees to 6012 County Farm Road Ballston Spa, NY 12020. If there is an issue that you feel must be discussed in person please call us at (518) 885-2465.

Suffolk County. Bring in pistol license, fill out amendment form, pay $5 for a new card and they will add Semi Auto Rifle permit to your card.

Monroe County - Make an appointment (currently a month out with appointments!!) You do not need to apply for a new license but can amend your current license to include the Semi-Automatic endorsement. You will need:Completed amendment formInstructions for how to complete the amendment can be found herePayment of $12 – cash, check, or credit cardThis process will be completed at your appointment, or within 7-10 days if you mail-in or drop-off your paperwork.

Monroe County, NY - Semiautomatic Rifle Permits

www.monroecounty.gov

The Hamburg gun show, at the “exhibit” building where people “express their constitutional rights”, next to the “race track” and across from the “gaming facility” where “alcohol is consumed”.

That will go over like a fart in church.

 

[Saltwater60]

The Hamburg gun show, at the “exhibit” building where people “express their constitutional rights”, next to the “race track” and across from the “gaming facility” where “alcohol is consumed”.

That will go over like a fart in church.

Yeah I’m not going to this one. I’m busy and I want others to be the Guinea pig.

 

[WhyCantIHaveFunThings]

From my sample size of one, I called NYPD, rifle shotgun permit is valid for semi-auto purchase. Tested that a few days later. I now own a PC9

 

[Saltwater60]

From my sample size of one, I called NYPD, rifle shotgun permit is valid for semi-auto purchase. Tested that a few days later. I now own a PC9

Good to know and it makes sense.

 

[Acer-m14]

From my sample size of one, I called NYPD, rifle shotgun permit is valid for semi-auto purchase. Tested that a few days later. I now own a PC9

thought the permit was only for semi auto rifles .. shotguns not listed ..

I'm so confused

ohhh your in NYC ..

 

[fresch]

Yes yes put everything on the database, then the "good cops" can come and take them; knowing you have them, unloaded, locked, etc..

 

[2WheelGnnr]

I sorta knew I shoulda got a semi auto shotgun before all this. I will just wait I guess till outta NY....the Pumps is fine for now I guess..........

 

[That_FNG]

I sorta knew I shoulda got a semi auto shotgun before all this. I will just wait I guess till outta NY....the Pumps is fine for now I guess..........

It’s a semi auto rifle permit. Does not effect semi auto shotguns. Go get whatever semi auto shotgun you want while you still can

 

[Acer-m14]

define semi auto .. self loading ..

fk ... I have to load the dam thing or it just sits in the corner looking dumb ..

then one pull of the trigger .. one shot ..

same as a bolt gun


LOL ..

 

[wizrd]

Oneida county - as of yesterday, 9/22/2022. IF you already have a valid pistol permit and wish to purchase a new semi-automatic long gun, you need to see the pistol office, and get a new permit card issued saying, on the back - "semi-auto long guns allowed" - (or something to that effect). If you DO NOT have a valid pistol permit, you will be handed an application - same as a permit application, except for a 'special box' of questions specifically for long-guns, - you will have to fill out the application, furnish references and be fingerprinted, same as a pistol permit applicant, - this will take the same amount of time as a pistol permit application, - right now seems to be about 6 months. For informational purposes only - OSWEGO & NIAGARA county legislatures have both passed motions REFUSING TO ENFORCE THESE NEW 'HOCHUL FIASCO GUN LAWS' - maybe you would have better luck contacting gun shops in those two counties. 'May you live in interesting times!' No specific record of your long guns is needed, nor entered, - (make, model, serial #, caliber, etc.) All this is void if thrown out by the courts, - don't hold your breath.

 

[Acer-m14]

Oneida county - as of yesterday, 9/22/2022. IF you already have a valid pistol permit and wish to purchase a new semi-automatic long gun, you need to see the pistol office, and get a new permit card issued saying, on the back - "semi-auto long guns allowed" - (or something to that effect). If you DO NOT have a valid pistol permit, you will be handed an application - same as a permit application, except for a 'special box' of questions specifically for long-guns, - you will have to fill out the application, furnish references and be fingerprinted, same as a pistol permit applicant, - this will take the same amount of time as a pistol permit application, - right now seems to be about 6 months. For informational purposes only - OSWEGO & NIAGARA county legislatures have both passed motions REFUSING TO ENFORCE THESE NEW 'HOCHUL FIASCO GUN LAWS' - maybe you would have better luck contacting gun shops in those two counties. 'May you live in interesting times!' No specific record of your long guns is needed, nor entered, - (make, model, serial #, caliber, etc.) All this is void if thrown out by the courts, - don't hold your breath.

they can blow me ..

 

[thughes]

Oneida county - as of yesterday, 9/22/2022. IF you already have a valid pistol permit and wish to purchase a new semi-automatic long gun, you need to see the pistol office, and get a new permit card issued saying, on the back - "semi-auto long guns allowed" - (or something to that effect). If you DO NOT have a valid pistol permit, you will be handed an application - same as a permit application, except for a 'special box' of questions specifically for long-guns, - you will have to fill out the application, furnish references and be fingerprinted, same as a pistol permit applicant, - this will take the same amount of time as a pistol permit application, - right now seems to be about 6 months.

Seems like a lot of effort to buy a Ruger 10/22.

 

[cranberry]

Has anyone done this in Westchester co yet ,just curious to the wait time for the amendment .

 

[Egret-II]

Oneida county - as of yesterday, 9/22/2022. IF you already have a valid pistol permit and wish to purchase a new semi-automatic long gun, you need to see the pistol office, and get a new permit card issued saying, on the back - "semi-auto long guns allowed" - (or something to that effect). If you DO NOT have a valid pistol permit, you will be handed an application - same as a permit application, except for a 'special box' of questions specifically for long-guns, - you will have to fill out the application, furnish references and be fingerprinted, same as a pistol permit applicant, - this will take the same amount of time as a pistol permit application, - right now seems to be about 6 months. For informational purposes only - OSWEGO & NIAGARA county legislatures have both passed motions REFUSING TO ENFORCE THESE NEW 'HOCHUL FIASCO GUN LAWS' - maybe you would have better luck contacting gun shops in those two counties. 'May you live in interesting times!' No specific record of your long guns is needed, nor entered, - (make, model, serial #, caliber, etc.) All this is void if thrown out by the courts, - don't hold your breath.

Can I buy an AR 15 with all the evil features after I do all that crap?

 

[Acer-m14]

Seems like a lot of effort to buy a Ruger 10/22.

is the 10/20 a legal rifle to have in NYS .. yes ... off to PA or Ohio to buy one .. no purchases permit needed there ...

 

[Acer-m14]

Can I buy an AR 15 with all the evil features after I do all that crap?

of course you CANNOT .. lol ..

 

[dean3690]

Kali Key bolt carrier makes your build a single shot AR FOR NOW and ready to change it into what ever the future allows.

 

[thughes]

is the 10/20 a legal rifle to have in NYS .. yes ... off to PA or Ohio to buy one .. no purchases permit needed there ...

I hear ya.......but you better get out there quick and get one before the other states find out about FUKH's new laws. Under the NFA and Federal Regulations, you are allowed to purchase a shotgun or long rifle as long as the sale will reflect on the policy of the state you reside in."

Firearm dealers may sell rifles or shotguns (not handguns) to people who live in a different state, but only if the sale complies with the laws of both the state where the sale is taking place and the state where the person lives.

For instance: if a Californian walks into a Texas gun shop, the shop cannot sell them a long gun because California law prohibits out-of-state gun purchases, even from a licensed dealer.

If a Floridian walks into that same Texas gun shop, they can buy a long gun, but the shop has to hold it for three days because Florida law requires a 3 day waiting period.

Purchasing a Firearm out of State

The United States of America has over 60 different sets of federal, state, reservation, and territorial gun laws! As a result, it is very easy

americangunfacts.com

 

[Acer-m14]

For instance: if a Californian walks into a Texas gun shop, the shop cannot sell them a long gun because California law prohibits out-of-state gun purchases, even from a licensed dealer.

NYS didn't do that .. its just a NYS thing so far .. just need a permission slip to buy in NYS ..

 

[thughes]

Permsission slip where I live:

NYS didn't do that .. its just a NYS thing so far .. just need a permission slip to buy in NYS ..

Permission slip where I live:

 

[Far king]

Seems like a lot of effort to buy a Ruger 10/22.

Fuck it. Just drive to Pennsylvania and buy one there!

 

[thughes]

Fuck it. Just drive to Pennsylvania and buy one there!

See post #49 (above)

 

[Far king]

Fuck it. Just drive to Pennsylvania and buy one there!

See post #49 (above)

Oh shit !

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

You cannot buy long guns out of state if the gun is not compliant in the state you reside in. That is law in all 50 states. Now if a dealer from another state has sold you a non-compliant long gun, they are breaking the law plain and simple. I know it has been done before but that does not mean it was a legal sale by the dealer. I have to follow all of the states laws when selling long guns & firearms. Being that NY now has the stupid semi-auto rifle permit, you will need that as well if you were to purchase a semi-auto rifle. Hopefully that gets overturned quickly.

 

[Acer-m14]

You cannot buy long guns out of state if the gun is not compliant in the state you reside in

true ...

so if semi long gun is legal in NY .. where in the NYS LAW does it say i need a permit to by it in PA ??

you all going to stop selling ammo to NY'ers if we cross the boarder ( like for fireworks ) .. ??

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[PA Guns & Ammo]

true ...

so if semi long gun is legal in NY .. where in the NYS LAW does it say i need a permit to by it in PA ??

you all going to stop selling ammo to NY'ers if we cross the boarder ( like for fireworks ) .. ??

May a licensee sell a firearm to a nonlicensee who is a resident of another state? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Generally, a firearm may not lawfully be sold by a licensee to a nonlicensee who resides in a state other than the state in which the seller’s licensed premises is located. However, the sale may be made if the firearm is shipped to a licensee whose business is in the purchaser’s state of...

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Does the GCA regulate ammunition businesses? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Yes. A license is required to import or manufacture ammunition. However, a license is not required to deal only in ammunition. Ammunition includes cartridge cases, primers, bullets or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm other than an antique firearm. [18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)...

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[camper4lyfe]

May a licensee sell a firearm to a nonlicensee who is a resident of another state? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Generally, a firearm may not lawfully be sold by a licensee to a nonlicensee who resides in a state other than the state in which the seller’s licensed premises is located. However, the sale may be made if the firearm is shipped to a licensee whose business is in the purchaser’s state of...

www.atf.gov

Does the GCA regulate ammunition businesses? | Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives

Yes. A license is required to import or manufacture ammunition. However, a license is not required to deal only in ammunition. Ammunition includes cartridge cases, primers, bullets or propellant powder designed for use in any firearm other than an antique firearm. [18 U.S.C. 921(a)(17)...

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The catch here is that the license is needed to purchase, not possess.

 

[Far king]

Oneida county - as of yesterday, 9/22/2022. IF you already have a valid pistol permit and wish to purchase a new semi-automatic long gun, you need to see the pistol office, and get a new permit card issued saying, on the back - "semi-auto long guns allowed" - (or something to that effect). If you DO NOT have a valid pistol permit, you will be handed an application - same as a permit application, except for a 'special box' of questions specifically for long-guns, - you will have to fill out the application, furnish references and be fingerprinted, same as a pistol permit applicant, - this will take the same amount of time as a pistol permit application, - right now seems to be about 6 months. For informational purposes only - OSWEGO & NIAGARA county legislatures have both passed motions REFUSING TO ENFORCE THESE NEW 'HOCHUL FIASCO GUN LAWS' - maybe you would have better luck contacting gun shops in those two counties. 'May you live in interesting times!' No specific record of your long guns is needed, nor entered, - (make, model, serial #, caliber, etc.) All this is void if thrown out by the courts, - don't hold your breath.

My pistol Permit by itself, un altered should be all l need! What the hell is the point of wasting my time and theirs other than most likely take more money from me ? BTW I live in Oneida County and wish the officials here had the spine to stand up to those vile democrats in Albany and tell them where they can stick it ! You can bet your ass I will let them know how l feel and l know they’ll be Ass hurt but TFB. I’ll let y’all know how it goes.