President Trump: Arm a ‘Small Percentage’ of Teachers to Stop School Shootings

[livingston]

President Trump: Arm a ‘Small Percentage’ of Teachers to Stop School Shootings​

During a Tuesday afternoon presser, President Donald Trump suggested allowing a “small percentage” of teachers to be armed for classroom defense.
During the presser, which was aired live on FOX News, Peter Doocy asked him about school shootings and the possibility of sending “an armed national guardsman to every school.”
Trump responded by saying, “We have a big problem with school but we also have thousands and thousands of schools that run perfectly.”
He then talked about things that can be done “construction-wise” to make schools safer and harder to enter illegally or illegitimately, but then pointed out that some of the construction-related things can actually hamper police entry too. In the end, Trump worried that that approach may “make it safer for some of these lunatics we’re dealing with.”

Trump: Arm a 'Small Percentage' of Teachers to Stop School Shootings

President Donald Trump suggested Tuesday allowing a "small percentage" of teachers to be armed for classroom defense.

www.breitbart.com

 

[livingston]

This is what we have been saying for years in the gun community

 

[FP1201]

There ARE Men and Women in in Schools that would be competent having a Firearm and Rights to carry and use one on School premises, others I wouldn't trust with a Fly Swatter....We've discussed this ad nauseam every time there's a shooting, but all the Democrats do is posture up with demands to outlaw and confiscate Guns, which is simply unattainable in America. They continually invoke this bombastic approach knowing the fallacy of it, all while blaming and deriding Republicans with hateful expectations they know cannot be achieved.
Can't be havn' "Resource Officers" in Skrool because it makes it look like a Prison, back in the Day it was usually the Coaches that took care of "issues"...'course too many of them anymore haven't the intestinal fortitude to do what would need to be done...Home School it shall be.

 

[livingston]

Trump ‘Open’ to Bringing Back Insane Asylums: ‘Can’t Have These People Walking Around’​

President Donald Trump has considered “reopening insane asylums” and argued that society “can’t have these people walking around” with severe mental illnesses, during a recent interview on his crime crackdown in Washington, DC.
The Daily Caller’s Reagan Reese interviewed him in the Oval Office on Friday, asking if he would “be open to the government reopening insane asylums for people with serious mental illness.”
“Yeah I would,” the president responded.
When Reese prompted further, Trump continued, “Well, they used to have them, and you never saw people like we had, you know, they used to have them. And what happened is states like New York and California that had them, New York had a lot of them. They released them all into society because they couldn’t afford it.”

“You know, it’s massively expensive. But we had, they were all over New York. I remember when I was growing up, Creedmoor. They had a place, Creedmoor, they had a lot of them, Bellevue, and they were closed by a certain governor,” Trump reflected. “And I remember when they did, it was a long time ago, and I said they didn’t release these people? And they did. They released them into society, and that’s what you have. It’s a rough, it’s a rough situation.”

Trump 'Open' to Bringing Back Insane Asylums: 'Can't Have These People Walking Around'

President Donald Trump considered "reopening insane asylums" and argued that society "can't have these people walking around."

www.breitbart.com

 

[Bigfoot]

Years ago, my friend, who had 3 kids in school at the time, went to a school meeting. The meeting was about hiring a school resource officer. There was a vote included due to that it would increase the following year's school taxes.

Here's the catch: some teachers and parents demanded that the potential school resource officer not be armed. Doh!

As this was going on, he spotted a large BLM sign hanging on a wall. In a school district that is probably 99% white. Doh!

He and his wife pulled their 3 kids out of that school the next day. Their kids have been home-schooled ever since, and they are all doing good.

They (the parents) had already been considering homeschooling for a while at the time, so they had a running start when it came time to actually go that route.

 

[Grimscale]

He and his wife pulled their 3 kids out of that school the next day. Their kids have been home-schooled ever since,

And yet, the parents are still required to pay into that system, forcefully!

If you don't have kids, or if you are homeschooling your kids, you should NOT have to pay school taxes. You are not benefitting from that enforced theft of your money.

 

[fresch]

Silly rabbits, it will never happen.
If the LEFT loses the "control" of the schools how will they push social change?
They don't care about we the people, they care about power, money. Their children go to private school.

 

[Cavalry]

I know a lot of teachers. I would say less than 1 in 50 should even be trusted to carry, let alone carry in a classroom for use it in a defensive situation. We are talking about a typically left leaning, typically female demographic. Just because someone has attained a masters degree does not mean they have common sense, street smarts or fortitude to operate under pressure or just in the day to day without failure.

 

[omfgrub]

I know a lot of teachers. I would say less than 1 in 50 should even be trusted to carry, let alone carry in a classroom for use it in a defensive situation. We are talking about a typically left leaning, typically female demographic. Just because someone has attained a masters degree does not mean they have common sense, street smarts or fortitude to operate under pressure or just in the day to day without failure.

Arm the Phys Ed instructors and any Combat Arms veterans (enlisted only). That way you'll manipulate a more probable skew towards capable weapon handlers.

 

[Cavalry]

Arm the Phys Ed instructors and any Combat Arms veterans (enlisted only). That way you'll manipulate a more probable skew towards capable weapon handlers.

I see where you are going with this, but enlisted, combat arms vets that are now teachers are going to be a ridiculously small pool. If there is one per county I would be shocked.

 

[omfgrub]

I see where you are going with this, but enlisted, combat arms vets that are now teachers are going to be a ridiculously small pool. If there is one per county I would be shocked.

Besides the Phys Ed instructors being comprised of almost 60% males (similar to Social Sciences, interestingly), I was going to comment regarding the Combat Arms vets something like "it's better than zero"; however, with a tiny bit of digging I realize it may as well be zero.



See above, according to National Center for Education Statistics 2022 data, only 1.9% of all teachers (male & female) are military veterans of any sort. Assuming Combat Arms requires a male (though I know this changed over 10 years ago), only 1.2% of teachers even potentially fit my criteria (because male teachers represent only 22% of all teachers).

Approaching this another way, assuming an equal tendency for all military job specialties to become teachers, using an arbitrary Googled estimate that 10-15% of all military are considered Combat Arms, that could mean that only 0.2-0.3% of all teachers are Combat Arms vets (or ~10,700-16,000 teachers out of 5,613,000).

Thanks for witnessing me waste my time during work.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I see where you are going with this, but enlisted, combat arms vets that are now teachers are going to be a ridiculously small pool. If there is one per county I would be shocked.

I'm fine using the same criteria we have today.

Any private citizen who is capable of becoming a NY state licensed pistol carrier who has a desire to carry at work (in a school district) should be considered.

Above and beyond that basic eligibility, I would take it one step further and give all those who volunteered a mandatory practical shooting course that included things like decision making, basic room clearing, and accuracy. If they can pass a basic fundamental course like this they are already more trained than probably half of current pistol permit holders And wouldn't be too far off from the capabilities of many lower level police officers.

It's not perfect but if even 2 to 5 school employees (could be a custodian, lunch monitor, principal, teachers, bus driver, secretary etc) were willing to do this it would be a huge step forward into discouraging and deterring possible attackers and have them reconsider knowing there are multiple school officials that are essentially "air Marshalls" hidden among the school and it could be anyone who was willing and confident and competent enough to do so.

Many larger schools (middle and high school) have like 75-100 employees. If even 2 -5 of them participated it could be a game changer. I know a few decent capable guys who are social studies and science teachers and a vice principal. There are probably janitors and gym teachers who might be interested too. No need to stop there either, include bus drivers Just as an example.

 

[spat]

I know a lot of teachers. I would say less than 1 in 50 should even be trusted to carry, let alone carry in a classroom for use it in a defensive situation. We are talking about a typically left leaning, typically female demographic. Just because someone has attained a masters degree does not mean they have common sense, street smarts or fortitude to operate under pressure or just in the day to day without failure.

My how things have changed.

When I was in school we had multiple combat vets as teachers.

OfC, we didn't have school shootings then either.

 

[SonOfSun]

There ARE Men and Women in in Schools that would be competent having a Firearm and Rights to carry and use one on School premises, others I wouldn't trust with a Fly Swatter....We've discussed this ad nauseam every time there's a shooting, but all the Democrats do is posture up with demands to outlaw and confiscate Guns, which is simply unattainable in America. They continually invoke this bombastic approach knowing the fallacy of it, all while blaming and deriding Republicans with hateful expectations they know cannot be achieved.
Can't be havn' "Resource Officers" in Skrool because it makes it look like a Prison, back in the Day it was usually the Coaches that took care of "issues"...'course too many of them anymore haven't the intestinal fortitude to do what would need to be done...Home School it shall be.

The actual solution is societal. I dont think arming teachers is the real solution.

When I was a kid, and I'm assuming most of you here too, there weren't school shootings like today. Shit, kids had shotguns in their trucks in high school, and nobody was going on killing sprees. These shootings are a result of societal decay. We don't need to arm teachers, we need to reverse the decay of society. Fix the root of them problem and it goes away.

 

[omfgrub]

The actual solution is societal. I dont think arming teachers is the real solution.

When I was a kid, and I'm assuming most of you here too, there weren't school shootings like today. Shit, kids had shotguns in their trucks in high school, and nobody was going on killing sprees. These shootings are a result of societal decay. We don't need to arm teachers, we need to reverse the decay of society. Fix the root of them problem and it goes away.

 

[FP1201]

My how things have changed.

When I was in school we had multiple combat vets as teachers.

OfC, we didn't have school shootings then either.

Most of us never heard of or even thought of the possibility of a "School Shooting" until Columbine....and you would know they were freaks from Colorado.