Private Transfers of Handguns. Does anyone do this anymore?

[GOPerfect]

I traded a revolver for some tattoo work, now I need to transfer said pistol.

I called ten different places and no one seems to do these private sale transfers anymore.

I am in Erie County, does any one here know of a place or a person that still does this?

I used to use three different FFL's, two are dead and one gave it up.

 

[turbobike]

If it’s within the same county or county to county it’s all handled through the permit office. If shipping, then FFL to FFL…we just brought pictures of the firearms and serial numbers to the permit offices.

 

[GOPerfect]

If it’s within the same county or county to county it’s all handled through the permit office. If shipping, then FFL to FFL…we just brought pictures of the firearms and serial numbers to the permit offices.

So, I'm a bit confused.

Who does the background check?

 

[libertysnake]

So, I'm a bit confused.

Who does the background check?

Would it be possible to just have an FFL do the NICS and bring a copy of the confirmation to the PPO with it? Might be the easiest option if they won't do the transfer itself?

 

[GOPerfect]

Would it be possible to just have an FFL do the NICS and bring a copy of the confirmation to the PPO with it? Might be the easiest option if they won't do the transfer itself?

I have called all around and it seems that no business does this any more. I gotta go downtown today, I'm going to stop in the PP office and see what the process is these days.

 

[SomeSoldier]

So, I'm a bit confused.

Who does the background check?

Maybe call the PPO to see if the NICS is required if he has a PP? I am sure it is but I have heard of some counties just doing it because both parties have a PP.

 

[libertysnake]

I have called all around and it seems that no business does this any more. I gotta go downtown today, I'm going to stop in the PP office and see what the process is these days.

If no one does it, then it's the duty of the the PPO to help you find a place to meet the requirements I'd imagine. They cannot set a requirement around your 2A rights that can't be met without it effectively being a denial of your rights.

If they insist, and provide no option to choose from nor can you find one, sue the fuckers. If we keep letting them walk they'll keep violating our rights.

 

[GOPerfect]

Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns

Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm

www2.erie.gov

There is a form from them, pretty simple form. All I gotta do now is to find someone that will do a background check for the "buyer"/

 

[Robin]

Your background looks good from here, you got my permission to proceed.
Robin

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Wow that Robin...alway helping a fellow out!!!!!!!! Did that BGC likety Split!!
like my brothers say when help with something around the house. Looks Good From MY house!!!!

 

[Robin]

Go, and sin no more.
Robin

 

[Saltwater60]

Call This place. I just did a private to private transfer with him in august/ September I think. $25.00 no questions asked other than what is needed for an FFL. No bullshit

The gun locker used to do them but I wasn’t happy with them, but it has changed ownership since then.

Joe's Panini Grill

 

[spat]

Pistol Permits | Erie County Clerk Michael P. Kearns

Locations & Hours Buffalo Office: 92 Franklin Street, Buffalo, NY 14202 Monday - Friday 9:00am - 5:00pm

www2.erie.gov

There is a form from them, pretty simple form. All I gotta do now is to find someone that will do a background check for the "buyer"/

Just co-register the guns.

Then next week go in to have it taken off your permit

 

[GOPerfect]

Just co-register the guns.

Then next week go in to have it taken off your permit

I was thinking that as well.

 

[Justincase]

I’ve used Joe’s Panini grill before. He’ll do it, but he’s not the most chipper guy in the world.

 

[Depick]

I think the gun locker does this.

 

[Saltwater60]

I’ve used Joe’s Panini grill before. He’ll do it, but he’s not the most chipper guy in the world.

He was great when I did mine. He has an odd sense of humor but I didn’t get the impression he was being grumpy.

 

[That_FNG]

The only place I know of in WNY is the firing pin. Seems like every other place has ceased doing any transfers at all.

 

[GOPerfect]

The only place I know of in WNY is the firing pin. Seems like every other place has ceased doing any transfers at all.

This is what I am finding as well.

It seemed so simple when I was selling at Gander. Very easy indeed.

 

[cgrutt]

[ETA sorry this first part is in response to @spat coregister comment]

Pretty sure this is meant in jest but wouldn't recommend it... guy goes home with his new pistol gets into a domestic situation and next thing you know they're knocking on your door for your guns.

Not sure I really understand problem isn't this just like any other sale? Bring gun and bill of sale (make it for $1 if it's a trade). Ffl puts it on his books runs NICS on buyer and transfers off his books to buyer. Why wouldn't FFL do this?

 

[meketrefe]

..... They cannot set a requirement around your 2A rights that can't be met without it effectively being a denial of your rights......

I disagree. I think that, since they cannot just rewrite the constitution their whole strategy is to overwhelm the citizens with rules, ordinances, taxes and laws to confuse and make gun ownership as difficult as possible.

 

[GOPerfect]

[ETA sorry this first part is in response to @spat coregister comment]

Pretty sure this is meant in jest but wouldn't recommend it... guy goes home with his new pistol gets into a domestic situation and next thing you know they're knocking on your door for your guns.

Not sure I really understand problem isn't this just like any other sale? Bring gun and bill of sale (make it for $1 if it's a trade). Ffl puts it on his books runs NICS on buyer and transfers off his books to buyer. Why wouldn't FFL do this?

So far, all the places around here have told me they stopped doing private sales. I called or went in person to five different places today and they all have the same answer, we don't do that anymore.

They will do online sales or sales from FFL to FFL, no longer doing private.

 

[spat]

So far, all the places around here have told me they stopped doing private sales. I called or went in person to five different places today and they all have the same answer, we don't do that anymore.

They will do online sales or sales from FFL to FFL, no longer doing private.

That's just stupid.

Tell them you want them to process an online sale for you.

When they ask what FFL the guy you sold it to is using, hand them their own business card...

 

[spat]

[ETA sorry this first part is in response to @spat coregister comment]

Pretty sure this is meant in jest but wouldn't recommend it... guy goes home with his new pistol gets into a domestic situation and next thing you know they're knocking on your door for your guns.

Not sure I really understand problem isn't this just like any other sale? Bring gun and bill of sale (make it for $1 if it's a trade). Ffl puts it on his books runs NICS on buyer and transfers off his books to buyer. Why wouldn't FFL do this?

For a week ? And a guy who already has guns and a permit (and went through all the crap it entails to get it) I'd say it's an acceptable risk.

 

[cgrutt]

So far, all the places around here have told me they stopped doing private sales. I called or went in person to five different places today and they all have the same answer, we don't do that anymore.

They will do online sales or sales from FFL to FFL, no longer doing private.

Can you do a gunbroker sale for $1 and have other party select a local FFL for the transfer? What about one of the NYGF FFL vendors? Makes no sense...

 

[Bvin66]

I traded a revolver for some tattoo work, now I need to transfer said pistol.

I called ten different places and no one seems to do these private sale transfers anymore.

I am in Erie County, does any one here know of a place or a person that still does this?

I used to use three different FFL's, two are dead and one gave it up.

Here is what happened to me in Monroe County about 3 years ago

I was told the Pistol Permit Office can handle private transfers, so my friend the seller and I the buyer went to the office together to do the transfer.
The clerk removed the gun from friends permit. Then asked me for my updated Brady letter. Ops haven't done that in a long time. She had me fill out the Brady form and said come back when I get the approval. I asked what do we do with the gun that is no longer on a permit. She said don't worry about it. One of you guys take it.

Friend and I were both confused and concerned. I said I will take the risk if you don't want to so with that we left.
About 3 weeks later I got my approval, wife and I went back and had the gun put on our permits. Wife had her permit for about 4 years at that point so she didn't need the Brady check.

That's all it took.

Edit to add I am now in Wayne County

 

[FLA45fan]

Have you tried John Henrich in Eden on Green Street? They did one for me a couple of years ago with another forum member . . .

 

[Truebeliever]

If no one does it, then it's the duty of the the PPO to help you find a place to meet the requirements I'd imagine. They cannot set a requirement around your 2A rights that can't be met without it effectively being a denial of your rights.

If they insist, and provide no option to choose from nor can you find one, sue the fuckers. If we keep letting them walk they'll keep violating our rights.

What state do you live in? Here in the people’s republic of New York it doesn’t work that way. The words, common sense means something different here.

 

[WileyX585]

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