Putin Gets it. ( far-left woke ideology that he said is causing societal ills throughout the Western world)
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Struggling with the facts: How terrible was Stalin’s Terror?
During the eighties and nineties, Russians generally thought the true extent of Stalin’s Great Purge (1936-38) was never revealed, with many claiming...
Amen
Robin
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Another non sequitur.
Robin
Robin
Lets make it 200 million, easier to remember.
Reminds me of an old joke from the cold war days:
An american (Joe) and a soviet citizen (Boris) were waiting for the subway in Moscow one day. While they were waiting, Boris extolled to Joe the virtues and magnificence of the soviet subway system. The tracks were polished and the cars were the cleanest in the world said Boris because there is nothing too good for the soviet citizenry.
After 45 minutes of more bragging about the wonders of the soviet system Joe finally said to Boris: "That's all very well and good but we've been waiting over an hour and not a single train has come."
To which Boris angrily replied: "What of your slaughter of the american indians, yes?"
This joke probably came from Ronald Reagan during one of his senile moments. The train in Moscow subway system would come every two minutes. You didn't even have enough time to admire the artwork around you. In NYC you will stand for 15-30 minutes and smell the old piss.
Predictable as always lol........
spat
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The US industrialized just fine under capitalism.
And China remained a 3rd world country under communism for 50 years, then they started embracing some elements of capitalism and they rocketed to their current status as a world leading economy.
History has shown that Facism is by far the most efficient way to run a country. It is just not desirable for other reasons.
Lassiez faire capitalism allows progress at nearly the rate of Facism, but without all the tyranny.
Our current system is approaching some bastardized version of Facism that takes the worst aspects of both. We get out of control government, *and* robber barons.
spat
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Communism doesn't *ever* materialize for the same reason nobody has ever run an anarchist state.
They are both McEscher versions of a political system.
If you don't look too close they sound great, but once you look at how the details fit together you realize it can never actually be built.
Tell that to Czar Nicholas II. He missed the boat. Stalin knew without industrialization Russia will be carved up and disappear from the map. There wasn't much time left.
Communism can be built in theory, in reality it requires the entire population to put the interests of the society above self-interest. That can never happen on enough scale. Lenin probably had some doubts so he threw in electrification of the country. It didn't hurt.
He also threw in mass murder and arrests. Can't make that omelet without breaking a few eggs and all that.
You forgot about free health care. That always seems to be the "go to"
Remind me who started Civil War?
Soviet Union was the first country to implement maternity leave. Decree was signed by Lenin.
Best Education system in the world. Not just free, mandatory healthcare for children. Free after-school activities. Free summer camps. Unlimited opportunity for any child to participate and expend his interest in sports, music, arts, technology. When Soviets said children are our future, they meant it.
If it wasn't for the fact that I can't believe the intelligence agency of russia would care about this forum I would suspect you were a deliberate misinformation plant. LOL.
Who started the civil war? How about who illegally usurped the government with the bolshevik coup. Like I said, you are predictable.
Bolshevik Revolution pretty much bloodless. It overthrew the government that came into power through another revolution. Provisional government.
Civil War which cost 7-12 million lives was started by white movement, which in reality were different insurgencies loosely united or feuding and propped up by the West plus various opportunistic gangs.
Yes, there was red terror, but white terror was much worse and uglier. Attaman Semyonov was despized even by other whites.
If I was from intelligence agency, it would be Soviet, not Russian.
I speak my mind, tell it like it is and don't give a shit who likes it or not.
spat
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You think there are still Soviet intelligence agencies around ?
Are they there to keep an eye on the Nazi moon base ?
I am a sleeper. Woke up one morning in 1991 and was out of a job. Couldn't even file for unemployment. If they want to deport me back to homeland, they will have to resurrect Soviet Union, otherwise they can go fuck themselves.
holdover
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when Columbus landed it was estimated there were 20 million natives. And before you write your book, look into how many natives were killed by disease brought over by whites.
Modean
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To say otherwise is a sure path to persecution at best, death at worst. Who would stand up and say they don’t approve?
Modean
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I notice that, despite your admiration of communist society, you live here….
Give me back my country to go back to or shut the hell up.
Actually I read that joke in the NY Times many years ago, before it became the woke piece of kotex that it is today.
I rode the subways in Moscow, Leningrad and Kiev. Soviet subway system was simply amazing. Anyone who has doubts, google it.
Robin
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Typical commie, wants someone else to pony up.
Robin
Non-sequitur much?
Robin
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I'm not guessing when I say, you still don't get it.
Robin
Robin