spat
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That is the solution that 90% of people choose.
Even most people who own guns don't carry every day.
Recommendations for a CCW that is 9mm, 10 rd capacity, but very compact and easy to hide.
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Even most people who own guns don't carry every day.
spat
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Unless it's a G36, then you *are* compromising.
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Ok I read the "better than what 90% of people are carrying" as in take what people are carrying and the lcp is better than 90% of the guns
Carrying a gun should be comforting not comfortable.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
Which is why I say carry the biggest gun you comfortably can. Not saying it will be comfortable. There's a difference between those two statements. I never understand when people say, "It's so comfortable I forgot I was even carrying it." When I carry I always know that I am carrying. I am also not uncomfortable. It's just that compared to not carrying I always notice it. I also don't think that's necessarily a bad thing.
Yuuup
spat
.950 JDJ
I used to carry a G26 IWB, most of the time.
Sometimes I didn't bother. Maybe I wasn't wearing a belt, just in a hurry, whatever.
Now I pocket carry an LCP. Every single time I have pockets.
So, the LCP in your pocket beats the G17 you left at home because you were "just running to the store quick".
Where I'm located I'm less likely to need it against 2 legged predators than something else, at least out in the yard.
And since I only leave the property once or twice a week, this makes far more sense.
It's not even so much about ease of actuallu carrying, the G26 carried fine. It's the difference in how fast putting it on is.
OFC, out here open carry is a thing, so I may need to rethink the holster plan, but it's real hard to beat pocket carry for ease.
Any bonded (HST excepted) 9mm JHP from a reputable manufacturer is likely to serve adequately.
The bonded versions of Golden Saber seem to deliver consistent penetration and expansion as well.
And I will yet again say that the Shiled Plus in my, and I suspect most, hands delivers sufficient performance to give me confidence in it should I need to employ it defensively.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
It is but it doesn’t penetrate or expand reliably compared to HST for the ballistic gelatin videos and results I’ve seen.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Most major brands do expand reliably well enough it’s just that federal HST meet the FBI spec perfectly in expansion, weight retention, and penetration depth. Hornady critical defense expands well enough but the brass pedal brake off causing them to lose weight and expand not as consistently. Is it enough of a difference for me to never use them? No, but I did just buy a few boxes of HST after seeing the ballistic gelatin results.
Oh uea no I have no use for their self defense ammo.. Speer Gold dots and Federal HST exist
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I hear you. I just look at it this way. Yes, it is more convenient not carrying. Sure, there are times I would rather not take the time to ready myself to leave the house armed with a larger than smaller pistol. Saying all this, the inconvenience of needing a gun that I am confident with and not having it far outweighs the inconvenience of taking the time to leave my house with my firearm. YMMV.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
That would be a flatter learning curve, wherein one’s skill level increases slowly over time (the height on the Y axis) versus time playing out (on the X axis.) A steep learning curve could be illustrated by a nice dose of “slide bite,” for example.
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
I think you catch my drift professor.That would be a flatter learning curve, wherein one’s skill level increases slowly over time (the height on the Y axis) versus time playing out (on the X axis.) A steep learning curve could be illustrated by a nice dose of “slide bite,” for example.
Okay great, I run HSTs as my primary ammo too. What if you can't find any when you need to replenish your stock? I'll switch to Gold Dots or Golden Sabres or Hornady XTPs, all of which I have function checked in my carry guns and vetted for matching POA/POI. It's good to have alternative loads you can switch to.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Absolutely. And the difference in performance/function is almost nonexistent, but it’s there. It’s like buying a Ferrari or a lambo. You can go wrong with either, but one has a slight edge in performance over the other.
GTN
.308 Win
I don’t know if this was mentioned but I hear a lot of people say “I can’t carry any gun because I like to wear tight fitted pants and shirts”.
You need to learn to dress for the gun you carry, not the other way around.
You need to learn to dress for the gun you carry, not the other way around.
spat
.950 JDJ
"Congratulations, one day you may be the best dressed corpse in the morgue".
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
But what has NEVER been said. “Dude, you look so badass in those skinny jeans!”
thisIslandEarth
.44 mag
Thanks for that info. The P225A looks awesome and very similar to P239. Have you shot the P239? If so, how would you compare the two?
I've got the P229 also and a Kriss Sphinx SDP that I'm going to sell I think. Anyways, good stuff
I mean I wear not sloppy pants, and a smedium shirt and can easily carry a G34 with ACRO P2 and Surefire x300u. Plus a C-A-T (TQ) and a spare magazine with no issue
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
4 less rounds but I still like carrying a snub nose revolver. small, super safe with no safety.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
My wife and I both shoot the P225A better but we only shot friend's p239 guns (an SAS and stock model) a couple times. As a point of reference, we shot both the single stack P239 and P225A better than a P226 Legion (we tried during the same range sessions) in spite of a longer sight radius and even "better" sights in the double stack p226 Legion but all were amazing guns.
Although the P239 and P225A share many of the same parts, the P225A felt slightly heavier (maybe an ounce or less) and maybe beefier to us, but the American P225A just felt better in both my large and wife's smaller hands (naturally grips a bit higher and seems to just point to the target). The P225A has a better stock trigger (felt like the Legion during the pull and short reset) and had better stock sights, and had better grip panels, and had better straps.
Although I may be splitting hairs, the p239 could be easier to carry than the P225A since it felt lighter side by side but I am not sure I would notice.
The p239 and P225A are both great guns, SIG had no trouble selling them, but my guess is that there is more profit in Tupperware strikers with cheaper parts, and less machining. Look how many p365 models (although they are more of a Tupperware replacement of the p938 ) they are moving now with likely much higher profit margins.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Yes. Not only where do you put your gun, but where do you put your junk in those? At my last job the interns and corporate asshole would wear such tight skinny Jean their socks must have been the size of a baby carrot at best. I buy specific things because not enough but room is a serious problem.
Not to mention that you could be hosing the perp down with gas while you retrieve your pocket pistol, and the flash from the short barrel will make the perp think long and hard on his life choices.......assuming he survives the shot.
Currently carrying my Shield Plus with one 13 round reload in a IWB BlackPoint Tactical Mini Wing with attendant mag carrier. In my free time I often go with the G19 but I am running a fair few errands today and I wanted the extra comfort. I feel more than adequately armed.
Shoots100
.44 mag
First pistol on my permit was my fathers backup snubby Mdl 37 airweight.
You forgot no shell casings left behind , single or double action trigger pull and a speed strip for reloading is easy to conceal too.
What in the hell do you get up to that you are worried about shell casings?!
spat
.950 JDJ
No policing brass at the range is a bonus at least...