Revenuers prove that's all they are..
- Thread starter Trauma47645
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mob732
.40 S&W
I was in the town of Eden Tuesday (end of the month) and watched the local PD pull over three cars in less than half an hour. It was like a feeding frenzy. BS on no quotas.
So, are you implying that those drivers did nothing wrong? Or are you just upset that the cops were doing what they are paid to do?
Trauma47645
.357 mag
So your interpretation of this whole thing is that cops are paid to be highway bandits?
Did you not notice they were facing multiple criminal charges?
Awesome, the system worked and these unworthy asshats are gone! Good riddence.
What point this proves beyond this case I can't imagine, but I'm sure I'll soon be lectured on it.
What point this proves beyond this case I can't imagine, but I'm sure I'll soon be lectured on it.
Sorry, Trauma, I was replying to mob732's post about the police in the town of Eden.
S
stuck in ny
Guest
It just shows how stupid having quotas for law enforcement is. If the quota doesn't comply with reality, then people will just make some up to match. Human nature. Senseless.
STS556
.223 Rem
Of course there is quotas, especially with the NYPD. I don't know if each precinct has the same quotas. I have two close friends who were on the NYPD many years ago but transferred to other departments in Westchester. One was on Staten Island and the other was in Hunts Point and they both said there was quotas in place. They had to make a certain number of arrests and tickets for each type of offense. I don't remember what the numbers were for each one but I do remember one quota in particular in Hunts Point. He was required to write at least 25 open container tickets a week. He hated writing those tickets because in the summer there would be a guy sitting on the front steps of his building relaxing and drinking a beer after working all day and he would get a ticket for open container.
ECU Pirates
.308 Win
Waiting for someone to say they the guy with 20 years in should get his pension (if they even have them in Texas)...
Trauma47645
.357 mag
Muh dental plan!!!
Hate to break it to you, but your friend left out a very important detail: he was in a special unit and agreed to that "quota" for the benefits it provided him (weekends off, steady tours, untouchable, plainclothes, etc). There is not and never was a regular patrol "quota" anywhere near that number. Patrol cops don't even write 25 summonses a month.
No different than my DV cops being required to make a certain number of home visits every month. He was either in a precinct conditions unit or a detail specific to Hunt's Point. Either way, he chose to be there for the benefits it provided.
speedkills27
6.5 Creedmoor
I dont know about quotas but anyone who's ever driven through the town of Brant knows they use the police force as a revenue stream. Im convinced that the reason theres no speed limit sign between Cain rd and the rez on RT 20 is so they can write tickets.
mob732
.40 S&W
The days of getting pulled over and getting a warning are pretty much over.
The only downside of dashcameras and body cameras: full enforcement.
I've been asking for a camera for years, hopefully soon I'll have one.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Glad they were fired as they should be. Just remember, you cant blame an entire group for the actions of a few (think mass shooters).
Trauma47645
.357 mag
The .Gov makes to much money off of tickets.. They have turned it into an extortion business.. And the Police are the enforcers
Trauma47645
.357 mag
spat
.950 JDJ
If it shouldn't be enforced 100% of the time, then it shouldn't be a law.
I realize this describes about 90% of the laws on the books anymore, but ....
I have no problem acting like a robot if that's whar society demands. Easier for me!
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
Quite honestly, I'd like that. That would eliminate illegal searches and quotas.
vanderblack
.357 mag
All depends on where you are in the state.
spat
.950 JDJ
Its not fair for anyone for you guys to have to make judgement calls about anything besides the facts of a case.
In fact, any system where one set of facts could lead to 2 different outcomes can hardly be called justice.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
This group is a bad one for certain, but if you factor in the entire % of total LEOs, its a small number.. but i get it, we all know a few bad apples can ruin the bunch, but we (as the gun culture) must be better than that and lead by example.
Quotas wouldn't even be spoken of if this was the case. Each inividual cop would be writing tickets from the time they punch in until the time they left for the day.
Quotas aren't really spoken about much around here anymore but when it was common that's what I would always tell everyone. The truth is, here at least, the quota in conjunction with strong union support meant cops would give far less summonses that they could have been writing. The union made sure that if the city wanted 20 a month that not a single patrol cop wrote 21. That's less than 1 summons a day. The quota helped citizens more than it hurt them. That's a fact. Most of the discretion I used was because I was already done or only needed 1-2 more anyway, so why not? Robot world? I'd easily write 100+ a month, all from the thousands of legit infractions witnessed within any 30 day period.
I have no clue what it is like in small towns, but here, the demon quota was more beneficial than people will ever know. It's gone now though, so its a moot point.
spat
.950 JDJ
And that would be tolerated for at most a couple of months before the people DEMANDED that the legislators fixed the laws.
Thats how its supposed to work. The fact that you guys temper the legislative insanity with good judgement just enables the legislature to completely abandon their duty to carefully engineer the law.
Somehow, it's the cops' fault again.
Maybe that's why when the left went full-retard on the racism-stuff I had such an easy time ignoring it. I'm already so used to being blamed for everything and anything, it just seemed felt an extension of my normal.
Maybe that's why when the left went full-retard on the racism-stuff I had such an easy time ignoring it. I'm already so used to being blamed for everything and anything, it just seemed felt an extension of my normal.
spat
.950 JDJ
You guys are the hands and eyes of the legislature, so whatever drunken insanity they come up with, you end up being the face of the mess it makes.Somehow, it's the cops' fault again.
Maybe that's why when the left went full-retard on the racism-stuff I had such an easy time ignoring it. I'm already so used to being blamed for everything and anything, it just seemed felt an extension of my normal.
If its any consolation, it happens to people in the private sector all the time too. Try being in some customer facing role and getting blamed for assinine policies that upper management creates, you'll probably find it a very familiar feeling.
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
So with this statement you justify the left putting all gun owners into the one bad group as the rule also?
Trauma47645
.357 mag
Government sanctioned theft isca bit different than a crazy fuck going on a killing spree
nortatoga
.338 Win Mag
Because you look at it from you side?