Rittenhouse trial thread (multi-merged)

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Celt said:
Agreed, the precedent will be set that self defense is dead. They already treat anyone that is not on "the left" as guilty before innocent. In schools they rarely allow self defense to be justified and punish both students in fights.
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What are you willing to do about it?
 
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Podmonkey said:
What are you willing to do about it?
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I will legally defend myself and my family without fear of repercussions if the need ever arises. I dont put myself in questionable situations by choice either.

I will stay politically engaged and keep educating and informing others of the wrong doings of our govt.

Any other type of discussions of possible future actions are not for electronic communication.
 
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Not sure how true...

I hear though...

Two jurors holding decision up, outright citing backlash, per US Marshal in Kenosha.

Best guess is ten are voting not guilty. Two, it seems want to vote the same way, but are afraid.

Surrounded by cowards and no identify to their values, morals and ethics!
 
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GOPerfect said:
Not sure how true...

I hear though...

Two jurors holding decision up, outright citing backlash, per US Marshal in Kenosha.

Best guess is ten are voting not guilty. Two, it seems want to vote the same way, but are afraid.

Surrounded by cowards and no identify to their values, morals and ethics!
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I hope youre right, although if 2 are holding up the decision based on fear of riots then thats fucking bullshit. Thinking of ruining a kids life for a fucking mob rule is insanity.
 
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GOPerfect said:
Not sure how true...

I hear though...

Two jurors holding decision up, outright citing backlash, per US Marshal in Kenosha.

Best guess is ten are voting not guilty. Two, it seems want to vote the same way, but are afraid.

Surrounded by cowards and no identify to their values, morals and ethics!
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Apparently they can clearly hear the mob outside.
Honestly if I were a juror on the fence the mob would actually sway me to a not guilty verdict out of spite .
 
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Celt said:
I hope youre right, although if 2 are holding up the decision based on fear of riots then thats fucking bullshit. Thinking of ruining a kids life for a fucking mob rule is insanity.
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The Romans warned about mob rule in ancient times. The Founding Fathers did the same more recently. Their fears are coming to pass.
 
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GOPerfect said:
Not sure how true...

I hear though...

Two jurors holding decision up, outright citing backlash, per US Marshal in Kenosha.

Best guess is ten are voting not guilty. Two, it seems want to vote the same way, but are afraid.

Surrounded by cowards and no identify to their values, morals and ethics!
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This is what I heard from this stream. Two jurors are afraid of the mob.
 
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Phazer said:
Charge 2 is concerning. It implies that by shooting Rosenbaum in self-defense, Rittenhouse still put McGinniss in danger, thus "recklessly endangering safety." Unless there is some exception in the law, that limits criminal liability when acting in self-defense, I do not see how this charge is easily dismissed. It would appear, by this charge, that even if you shoot someone in self-defense, you are still criminally, and not just civilly, responsible for what all of your shots end up doing. That said, I am certainly not a lawyer.
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Maybe. But seeing that McGinniss was unhurt, the standard of reckless endangerment is going to be hard to prove. After all, he was unhurt. "Reckless" is generally a pretty tough standard to reach, and hopefully remains so in this case.
 
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drowhawk said:
Jury broke for the evening. I think it will be a hung jury tomorrow and prosecution will get a retrial.
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Same 2 guys? What will be different? The facts are the facts, no? Are they going to keep running the sample at higher amplification until they get a positive test result? I mean, guilty verdict?
 
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EXCLUSIVE: “Jumpkick Man” Identified as Maurice James Freeland.

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Jumpkick man in the Kyle Rittenhouse case is now identified as Maurice James Freeland (DOB 11-24-1981):
 
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BuffNiag said:
Jurors went home. No decision today... they probably want to announce verdict when all the rioters are at work tomorrow morning.
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I agree , well not the work part . Verdict tomorrow morning would leave daylight hours to get things somewhat under control before dark .
Verdict tonight would be bad .
 
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