Rookie NYPD officer leaves gun unattended... Guess what happens next
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@thewheels
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Too much stupid on this one.
Why is a housing bureau officer taking his firearm to his neighbors' apartment?!? Much less leaving it on the neighbors' coffee table?!?
Why is a housing bureau officer taking his firearm to his neighbors' apartment?!? Much less leaving it on the neighbors' coffee table?!?
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Hmmm... Article says shot in neck. Web address says a bit lower.
Lots of stupid. That rookie went through a lot of shit for the last 3 years to get that job. So much for the weeding out process.
Lots of stupid. That rookie went through a lot of shit for the last 3 years to get that job. So much for the weeding out process.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
I get carrying the gun with him. But leaving it out is terribly irresponsible.
The article says the friend picked it up and it accidentally went off. That is so ridiculous, the idiot picked it up and put his finger on the trigger causing his own death because of ignorance. He is just as much to blame for picking it up and putting his finger on the trigger as the rookie is for leaving it out and unattended.
Brand new rookie... every class has a few stories immediately upon graduation. He's suspended and will be fired relatively soon I'm sure.
2WheelGnnr
6.5 Creedmoor
So now we have to educate adults to not play with firearms?!
Police officer should not have left unattended obviously.
Police officer should not have left unattended obviously.
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
I think there was horseplay going on. NYPD guns have 12 lbs triggers.
GoodGuywitha9mm
.45 acp
Maybe the guy was a "dick head" bahahaha! I know; not funny he is deceased, but this cop needs to live with this for the rest of his life... as a shopping cart fetcher at Walmart.
kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
Yes. Even better if we teach them as children.
For the kids: Stop. Don't touch. Run away. Tell an adult.
For the adults: All guns are always loaded. Don't point the gun at anything you don't want to destroy. Finger off the trigger until you're on target and ready to shoot. Know you're target and what's behind it.
Target
6.5 Creedmoor
Will this make him ineligible for a MA permit?
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
could this be tied to FUAC pay raise .. taking $$$$ from NYPD Training budget ..
Something tells me he probably shouldn't have been a PO to begin with .
Glenn B
.308 Win
A sad tragedy that easily could have been avoided I suppose. Thing is we probably have all left an loaded gun unattended at one time or another, anyone could do it but at the very least you should always warn others your guns should always be considered loaded and not to touch them in the event you leave one someplace accessible to others; better yet would have been to secure it.
Also it is maybe a sad turn of events about the father giving his son CPR as he bled profusely from the neck. I imagine the bleeding could have well been arterial and chest compressions might have only caused more bleeding; I am guessing he would have been better of trying to stop the bleeding but, of course, that is mere supposition on my part.
Sad all around.
Also it is maybe a sad turn of events about the father giving his son CPR as he bled profusely from the neck. I imagine the bleeding could have well been arterial and chest compressions might have only caused more bleeding; I am guessing he would have been better of trying to stop the bleeding but, of course, that is mere supposition on my part.
Sad all around.
Glenn B
.308 Win
Why is he as much to blame if he was uneducated about firearms? Yes there is blame to go around but the truth of the matter is the officer had been trained in securing his weapon and my guess is the deceased had not been so trained; although, that is only a guess.
Of course, the reason the gun may have fired is MAYBE because the officer tried to grab his gun away from his friend and reflex reaction often is to grasp something tighter that someone else is trying to take from you and in the case of a gun that could mean a bang. It certainly seems odd, not impossible but odd, that some picking up a gun to check it out, or whatever, and then discharging it, would shoot himself in the neck unless he was suicidal.
Whatever the reason the man was shot - it never would have happened if the gun had not been left there loaded for him to pick up. Well, that is if the officer did not shoot his friend either accidentally or on purpose.
My point in saying all that is just to show other sides, not to argue. The truth of the matter is that there needs to be a thorough investigation of what happened and then the facts supported by the evidence should be relied upon to make a determination as to what happened. That is usually preferable to believing what a reporter wrote when determining what happened in such an instance.
Celt
.450/400 Nitro Ex
Fair point regarding blame. But, even if the guy is ignorant to firearms, just about everyone on the planet knows they are dangerous and that triggers make them go boom.
subsonic
.44 mag
Is it possible this Ghanaian chap wasn't a high scorer on the civil service exam?
Marine Cpl
.577 Tyrannosaur.
No it doesn't work that way. A score on a civil service exam is a score on a civil service exam. What they do is disqualify candidates on the psychological exam. That's how they pick and choose who they want to hire. They get letters saying that their psychological profile did not fit the needs of the Police Department. I know of three people that got that letter. All happened to already be New York City peace officers working for hospital police in NYC. Two of them were veterans. One Army and one Marine. The other wasn't a veteran but was a stand-up guy. He eventually became a Paramedic.
I was the fourth.
What is a "Housing Bureau Officer"? What do they do.
Clearly Safe Handling and Practices need a greater emphasis in training. Clearly we have people with backgrounds where responsible firearms ownership is not really a thing.
Clearly Safe Handling and Practices need a greater emphasis in training. Clearly we have people with backgrounds where responsible firearms ownership is not really a thing.
Deplorable Me
.700 Nitro Express
A good case for mandatory gun safety as part of the public education system. Firearm safety should not be a secret. This assumes both of the individuals in the story graduated from high school.
Depick
.308 Win
100% avoidable situation. Their is no excuse for such carelessness.