ManrisFrack
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I did not, but I probably will now that I'm pretty sure what I'm getting.
Security Camera Thread - Home Solution Write Up
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I did not, but I probably will now that I'm pretty sure what I'm getting.
Good job, all great cameras. I would contact Andy to see if he has better prices like @CaseHardened said. Are you using Blue Iris?
Cleck
.308 Win
All of my cameras are all pretty high up in the eaves, you'd really have to be prepared to take them out quickly without the dog waking us up. One of them is installed in the eave under the gutter bend, so it's effectively protected by that. My back one is a little higher up (to get a better view of the back driveway area) and you'd basically have to be standing on my patio to get at it. It's highly visible, but it would take some work to knock it out. You'd be questioned as to why you're carrying such a long pole w/ you way before, lol
Well, I received my Amcrest UltraHD 4K (8MP) Outdoor Bullet POE IP Camera, 3840x2160, 131ft NightVision, 2.8mm Lens, IP67 Weatherproof, MicroSD Recording, Black (IP8M-2496EB) (Renewed) today, and plugged directly into the POE Port in my Amcrest Amcrest 4K UltraHD 4 Channel PoE NVR, 4K/6MP/5MP/4MP/3MP/1080P Network Video Recorder, 4-Channels, Supports 4 x 4K IP Cameras, HDD Not Included (Supports up to 6TB Hard Drive), NV2104E-HS.
It is terrible.
I guess I understood it when a 1080 Wireless Netvue Vigil couldn't resolve a License Plate at 20' in broad daylight, but this 4K 8MP is no better !
Perhaps being "renewed" it was defective from the factory ?
So it's going back, and I just bought Amcrest UltraHD 4K (8MP) Outdoor Security IP Turret PoE Camera, 3840x2160, 164ft NightVision, 2.8mm Lens, IP67 Weatherproof, MicroSD Recording (128GB), White (IP8M-T2499EW) in a Lightning Deal for about $23 off at $97.
I tried two different CAT Cables, a 2M long and a 10M long. No difference.
QUESTION: The image is not stable, but seems to be subtly refreshing every second.
Here are two screenshots.
One is Full Screen, the other zoomed in = but not all the way.
Notice how blurry the lawn and cat is, which both are less than 30 feet away ! More like 20, in fact.
And the lawn around the Cat is in constant motion - although in reality there is not even a breeze at all.
It is terrible.
I guess I understood it when a 1080 Wireless Netvue Vigil couldn't resolve a License Plate at 20' in broad daylight, but this 4K 8MP is no better !
Perhaps being "renewed" it was defective from the factory ?
So it's going back, and I just bought Amcrest UltraHD 4K (8MP) Outdoor Security IP Turret PoE Camera, 3840x2160, 164ft NightVision, 2.8mm Lens, IP67 Weatherproof, MicroSD Recording (128GB), White (IP8M-T2499EW) in a Lightning Deal for about $23 off at $97.
I tried two different CAT Cables, a 2M long and a 10M long. No difference.
QUESTION: The image is not stable, but seems to be subtly refreshing every second.
Here are two screenshots.
One is Full Screen, the other zoomed in = but not all the way.
Notice how blurry the lawn and cat is, which both are less than 30 feet away ! More like 20, in fact.
And the lawn around the Cat is in constant motion - although in reality there is not even a breeze at all.
Talked to Amcrest Technical support and he took remote control of my PC, and he agreed that the 4K does suck.
Told me I need a 41 series, not a 21 series.
So I just ordered a NV4108E-HS
sigh
I'm actually relieved and remain hopeful that I'll eventually be able to read License Plates 50 feet away. Mebe.
Told me I need a 41 series, not a 21 series.
So I just ordered a NV4108E-HS
sigh
I'm actually relieved and remain hopeful that I'll eventually be able to read License Plates 50 feet away. Mebe.
Until 30 minutes ago I thought, as far as Security Cameras go, 8MP = 4K.
Apparently not.
Apparently not.
Cleck
.308 Win
I think if we buy anymore cameras after this, it should only be the Dahua/Hikvision cams. After my messing with these, I'm happy with the daytime performance, but not the night. I'm gonna add some better light first, but I definitely need a better night camera out front where I can't put as much light as I have in back.
I have no idea why I thought the Amcrest NVR I purchased would support 4K and 8MP.
Cleck
.308 Win
Uh, yeah, that's weird. I mean I guess false advertising happens, but damn. How bad is it?
The Amcrest 4K connected to that NVR was worse than my $60 Netvue Wireless.
Anyhow, I already received a refund and expect one of their 41 Series tonight.
ALL Amcrest cameras SUCK! They are absolute garbage cameras and should be returned immediately while you still can. Anything you own that is Amcrest that is still within the return period should be sent back. Stick with Hikvision and Dahua like @Cleck said.
MikeyCNY
6.5 Creedmoor
Isn't Hikvision one of the ones potentially sending info to China? I know there was some big hoopla about government agencies having to switch them out but not knowing what cameras were affected.
Yes, but it's b/s. Kind of like people who don't know guns making gun laws. People who don't know the tech are making people scared for no real reason.
That's an older model, not their 2.0 model. Get this instead https://www.amazon.com/IP-Cam-Talk-Recorder-IPCT-NVR3208-8P-I2/dp/B07MGPLFK5/
Thanks !
Yes, but don't waste your money chasing megapixels. In reality, 4K (8MP) has worse night time video compared to a 4MP starlight. However, always good to get a NVR that supports upcoming tech and higher MP.
Cleck
.308 Win
At this point, I'm not that concerned w/ my nvr, mainly because I am just viewing everything through BI right now. Guess I should swap over that hard drive, hahaha
Cleck
.308 Win
Let's talk some lighting solutions.
My backyard is totally fine, I have 2 led flood lamps out there, plus the motion sensing one on the garage. As long as both lights (on the house) are on, I'm good back there. I guess that's the most important, seeings how the cars are there, but I want options to improve my front visibility at night so I can make out people/cars better without blasting out my neighbors.
I'm considering an IR floodlight, but not sure how effective it'll be, or if what I really want is forced color at night for best feature detection.
My backyard is totally fine, I have 2 led flood lamps out there, plus the motion sensing one on the garage. As long as both lights (on the house) are on, I'm good back there. I guess that's the most important, seeings how the cars are there, but I want options to improve my front visibility at night so I can make out people/cars better without blasting out my neighbors.
I'm considering an IR floodlight, but not sure how effective it'll be, or if what I really want is forced color at night for best feature detection.
phatfarmerbob
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I dealt with Andy absolutely no problems don’t worry. It’s amazing how quick stuff comes from China.
BI ?
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Blue Iris - PC based Video Security and Webcam software.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
Does anyone know what strain relief/hoods are used on the camera end of the ethernet line? I probably just don't know the right search term but I can't find anything that has that locking mechanism.
I've just assembled all the items I need to mount my 4K on the roof, on a pole. With CAT7 Cable.
But yeah, just plugging it in without weatherproofing or locking does concern me.
I was thinking of wrapping the junction with Silicone Self-Fusing Tape.
ManrisFrack
6.5 Creedmoor
I found these: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07VKP2RKC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=APXVIUGFEK7IK&psc=1
It looks like they should work but I'm not sure. At $7 for a set of ten, I think I'll give 'em a try.
ETA: Damn things are gonna take 3-6 weeks to arrive.
Finished RJ45 modular CAN NOT pass through the cover
Deal breaker for me.
Yes, I have terminated dozens of CAT 5 Cables, but it is finicky work that I just can't get interested into doing right now.
And I'm not sure if CAT7 requires special tools.
Cleck
.308 Win
My cheap Chinesium cameras came w/ the caps, and I make all of my own ends to being with, so this is not an issue for me. It might be what you may have to resort to, as boring as it is. Just stick w/ cat 5e/6 and you should be fine, unless you need 7.
In the meantime, wrapping them in electrical tape can't be the worst thing for them. Better than nothing?
In the meantime, wrapping them in electrical tape can't be the worst thing for them. Better than nothing?
If your plugs are exposed to the elements then you are asking for trouble and it may be worth picking up a cheap crimper (https://amzn.to/2L4XcR3) and plugs (https://amzn.to/2ZAySu6) with the waterproof housings. You absolutely do not need cat7 for cameras, you don't even need cat6. I have seen countless cameras bite the dust due to water getting on the plugs.
GoodGuywitha9mm
.45 acp
Probably re-writing history here... but I didn't have the time to read through 10 pages of ideas. I tried WYZE cameras (stolen from another China Co.). $20 for still, $30 for Pan/Tilt. Can use a local 32GB Micro-SD card for recording, but it automatically records motion events in 12 second intervals to the cloud, and keeps them there for 1 week (I think). You may also record directly to your phone as needed. They are indoor rated, but I have all 3 of mine outside with protection (can buy covers on Amazon).
I've read about fears of China watching your cams, but I got nothing going on I wouldn't bore a Chinaman with, lol.
I also have one still wrapped in cellophane - completely weather proof, and no issues with heat.
I've read about fears of China watching your cams, but I got nothing going on I wouldn't bore a Chinaman with, lol.
I also have one still wrapped in cellophane - completely weather proof, and no issues with heat.