Semi auto rifle license law passed and headed to governor

[Bigfoot]

I can remember back in 2013 after FUAC signed the NY UNSAFE Act into law.

A lot of us here I mean there (NYF) at that time. Tried to make any sense of what the new law(s) actually meant. It was a clusterfuck then, just as it is now.

 

[maverick52]

What about if you already have a pistol permit and obviously have a semi-auto pistol? You need yet another permit for a long gun semi-auto??

This shit don't make any sense!

This is NY my friend. The laws are not supposed to make sense. They are driven by emotion and politics.

 

[Cavalry]

FFL s in NYS will have to comply.

What FFL's? With that other horseshit bill that passed 90% of FFL's are not going to be able to justify the aggravation and cost to stay open. Fireproof vaults, monitored security systems, multiple video cameras with 2 year video retention, etc.

Oh an the state police will now have a registry of everything sold going forward. All sales records get forwarded to them every april.

 

[Phazer]

Unless I’m wrong I don’t think there is a registry. I don’t think the rifle would be added to your permit like a pistol. It’s simply a license granting your permission to purchase semi autos. If I understand correctly.

Nobody understands this correctly. Including the uneducated elected elites that wrote the darn thing.

 

[maverick52]

Nobody understands this correctly. Including the uneducated elected elites that wrote the darn thing.

Watching those morons yesterday was sickening.

 

[Snoviper]

I can see a serious delay in Pistol permit transactions now that the same agencies will be processing rifle transactions. Probably be waiting a lot longer. I am sure this is part of the plan as well.

 

[4WHLDRFTN]

Not to worry, theyll be more… just keep compiling

 

[Chris1389]

Not one solitary New Yorker should obtain or verify a license for anything ever again. Laws are obviously optional for everyone else except for law-abiding citizens, so it’s time for law-abiding citizens to behave like everyone else and ignore them entirely.

Let the entire system implode on itself.

Im sure you put up such a fight when you obtained your pistol permit lmao

 

[99cummins]

So we get this “rifle license” and since we’ve proven we are a good person with that we can skip the nics check…

 

[GTN]

I didn’t really need anything but now I just might need to buy more

 

[2WheelGnnr]

Ive wnted to upgrade my shotgun to a semi I better do it and quick..... so I wonder what the license process will be like.....will pistol permit people stillhave to get a SEPERATE license for semi auto...probably..cuz its more FEE revenue for the state!!!!!

I will have to get a license to operate a riding lawn mower im sure at some point.

 

[skywarner]

Well that gives me some time.

We ran out of time a long time ago…

 

[GOYABEAN]

So... are counties going to have to pay to create and execute this unfunded state mandate?

Nope you the tax paying peasants would

 

[whatupbo]

Ive wnted to upgrade my shotgun to a semi I better do it and quick..... so I wonder what the license process will be like.....will pistol permit people stillhave to get a SEPERATE license for semi auto...probably..cuz its more FEE revenue for the state!!!!!

I will have to get a license to operate a riding lawn mower im sure at some point.

It’s only for rifles not shotguns……. But I’d still get it anyway because I’m sure they’ll do that eventually

 

[skywarner]

So... are counties going to have to pay to create and execute this unfunded state mandate?

The counties won’t pay. Only taxpayers pay.

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

The counties won’t pay. Only taxpayers pay.

Screwing us twice. The NY way.

Infringe our rights and raise our taxes to pay for more govt employees to carry out the infringing

 

[pshift]

 

[pshift]

The following bills have passed both houses.

• Permit to Purchase a Semi-Automatic Rifle: Sets the legal purchase age at 21.
• Establishing New Crimes of Mass Harm: Criminalizes mass shooting threats that spur lockdowns or evacuations.
• Act to Micro-stamp Ammunition: Mandates any semiautomatics manufactured in or delivered to New York be capable of using micro-stamped ammunition.
• Strengthening Background Checks: Requires New York police departments to report recovered weapons to the state's criminal gun clearinghouse within 24 hours.
• Bolstering Extreme Risk Protection Orders: Empowers health care professionals to apply for an extreme risk protection order against patients they believe pose a threat.
• Penalizing Large Capacity Ammo and Feeding Devices: Adjusts the definition of large capacity ammunition feeding device.
• Improving the Definition of Firearm: Expands firearm definition to include any fire control component designed to expel a projectile by action of explosive.
• Reporting Hateful Social Media: Mandates social media networks provide means for reporting hateful conduct.

 

[Jmac00]

Ive wnted to upgrade my shotgun to a semi I better do it and quick..... so I wonder what the license process will be like.....will pistol permit people stillhave to get a SEPERATE license for semi auto...probably..cuz its more FEE revenue for the state!!!!!

I will have to get a license to operate a riding lawn mower im sure at some point.

and insurance, don't forget the insurance, just in case you have a multicar/mower pile up on the thruway, during a blizzard, in February

 

[togmaster]

So a gun is legal to own in NY. Per federal law you allowed to purchase said gun out of state. You are allowed to own said gun in NY without a permit only not allowed to buy. IANAL but no permit needed and all sales move out of state.

 

[Dr. Evil]

So after the governor signs it today, how long until it takes effect? Is there some time frame for them to create the rifle license? I had been wanting to get one last semi auto rifle (Ruger 10/22) and wonder if I need to rush out this morning and get it, or if I have days, weeks, or months before it takes effect

I'm sure the plan was already set up just waiting for the opportunity to start. Look how fast the UnSafe Act was implemented.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Don't worry maybe there's a savior in the future

One moment, please...

 

[Phazer]

Looks like they just added "semiautomatic rifle" to the law requiring a license for a handgun: https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S9458

So, in Westchester, it'll now take 6 months to a year to be able to purchase a long gun.

Forget about transferring a long gun, even through an FFL, to someone who doesn't yet have such a license. Your sale would be delayed for 6 months to a year.

Since the new law just amends the prior pistol licensing statute, existing permits should be usable for purchasing long guns. BUT...any rifle purchased would then be added to a permit via amendment and that would create a de facto registration of any semiautomatic rifles purchased or transferred after enactment of the new legislation.

 

[Celt]

So a gun is legal to own in NY. Per federal law you allowed to purchase said gun out of state. You are allowed to own said gun in NY without a permit only not allowed to buy. IANAL but no permit needed and all sales move out of state.

Or have trustworthy friends and family in other states.

FUNY!

 

[Blimey]

Looks like they just added "semiautomatic rifle" to the law requiring a license for a handgun: https://legislation.nysenate.gov/pdf/bills/2021/S9458

So, in Westchester, it'll now take 6 months to a year to be able to purchase a long gun.

Forget about transferring a long gun, even through an FFL, to someone who doesn't yet have such a license. Your sale would be delayed for 6 months to a year.

Since the new law just amends the prior pistol licensing statute, existing permits should be usable for purchasing long guns. BUT...any rifle purchased would then be added to a permit via amendment and that would create a de facto registration of any semiautomatic rifles purchased or transferred after enactment of the new legislation.

And people thought it was time consuming to get a permit before...

Is there anything in this legislation about grandfathering? I assume existing semis are exempt (unless transferred).

 

[Phazer]

Is there anything in this legislation about grandfathering? I assume existing semis are exempt (unless transferred).

Legislation refers to purchasing or taking possession of.

If you already possess such a firearm, you don't appear to have to do anything. You are not performing the action "taking possession of" since you already own the item. The legislation does not appear to mandate permitting of heretofore legal rifles that are already owned.

 

[Phazer]

Another question: Some ranges make money renting long guns, selling ammunition for those long guns, and selling range time for the renters' session. Now that semiautomatic rifles are essentially put on the same level as pistols, from a permitting standpoint, will ranges be banned from renting semiautomatic rifles?

 

[whatupbo]

Another question: Some ranges make money renting long guns, selling ammunition for those long guns, and selling range time for the renters' session. Now that semiautomatic rifles are essentially put on the same level as pistols, from a permitting standpoint, will ranges be banned from renting semiautomatic rifles?

I’d assume yes unless you have a permit, just like with handguns

 

[togmaster]

Another question: Some ranges make money renting long guns, selling ammunition for those long guns, and selling range time for the renters' session. Now that semiautomatic rifles are essentially put on the same level as pistols, from a permitting standpoint, will ranges be banned from renting semiautomatic rifles?

No because possession is not illegal. Permit only required for purchase or transfer.

 

[Celt]

What can i say, fuck all of them.


And when the next school shooting happens what will their answer be for another failed law that steals freedom????