Senators Introduce Assault Weapons Ban

[Burzum]

I am beginning to think Feintwit needs to know she has not become totally useless and irrelevant as a senator, thereby bringing up the assault weapons ban from time to time so she can get some press and renew her constituency's reasons to keep her in the senate. It is after all the only thing she has done in all the years she has been in the senate that people associate with her name and her disgustingly lame and infertile senate record. She needs it as a crutch and a memoir of her halcyon days as the Wickedest Ugliest Witch Ever Known to Americans

That is a great point, she is facing a primary challenger, a hispanic guy, trying to go to her Left and scoop up Sanders and hispanic supporters, all Feinstein has done is made lots of money for her defense contractor husband, guns are evil for her unless she is making a killing-making a killing overseas.

 

[meketrefe]

I was expecting some critics about my comments.
Some think there is nothing we can do, I don't believe that.
What we need is to write everyone including the NRA and ask them to stop this game of thrones political game BS.
Our leaders and trump need to take this bull by the horns and start leading the reform and the backgrounds check
form is a joke so toss that away. It doesn't work. Put a simple check and also have government pay the FFL if they
are so worried about safety.

The politicians are playing games with our rights and our safety, all sides, not just the libtards.

 

[livingston]

Democratic senators propose military-style weapons ban
Sens. Richard Blumenthal and Chris Murphy, both of Connecticut, were the lead co-sponsors along with Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-Calif.

“Connecticut’s ban was a model for us in drafting this,” Blumenthal said in an interview.


The measure would ban the sale, manufacture and importation of affected new guns, but would not confiscate those already legally in the hands of owners. It covers broad classes of semiautomatic firearms including most versions of the AR-15, which the Texas shooter used, and which has been used in several mass shootings. The bill would also ban high-capacity magazines, which are also already banned in Connecticut.


"Weapons of war have no place in our communities,” Blumenthal said in a written release. He defended Connecticut’s 1993 ban on military-style weapons in the state Supreme Court.
Murphy, who led a senate filibuster favoring gun control in 2016, added, “It's not a coincidence that these guns are used in virtually every mass shooting. Copycat killers are watching the lethal efficiency of these killing machines and choosing them to carry out their own mass murder. As a recent Trump nominee to the Department of Defense said, it's 'insane' that civilians are allowed to buy these weapons.”


The bill would affect semiautomatic weapons, which fire a round with each pull of the trigger, and have at least one military-style characteristic, such as a pistol grip or a flash suppressor, and have detachable ammunition magazines. It would also ban magazines of more than 10 rounds. The list of banned guns includes 205 by name, and it would exempt some 2,200 guns by name, which don’t fit the characteristics and are used for hunting, target-shooting or personal defense.
Democratic senators propose military-style weapons ban

Cuomo will be pissed ...
“Connecticut’s ban was a model for us in drafting this,” Blumenthal said in an interview.
They are taking away his thunder .....He wanted for everyone to understand it was the Safe Act that was the model..

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

I slept on thinking over this potential ban, and the more I think about it, the more worried I think we should be.

Here's why I am concerned

Congress is useless. Even though republicans control house, senate, presidency, why can't they get anything done?
"Day 1, repeal Obama care" ya...how did that go?

Trump gets minimalnsupport from Congress or the Senate even from his own party when we run all of it!

Mid terms are coming up.

90% of Politicians on the right are a bunch of sell out, self preservation, career saving cucks. They would sell any one of us or our rights out if they felt it would prolong their worthless careers.

The media, celebrities, hollywood, academia are coming out hard to push More anti gun legislation. Most of us could care less what idiots who probably never graduated high school but who have made careers about crying or laughing on cue and being hot think. They are no beacons of wisdom or enlightenment but the truth is millions of Americans do. They think they have some voice of moral superiority and reasoning. Which they clearly don't. But it doesn't matter. If soccer mom up the road who doesn't think for herself believes them thats all that matters,

I really fear this country is just one more horrific shooting away from really getting more support to push it through.

I know our leaders won't stop it. Sure some republicans in very conservative areas would vote against it to save face but let's be honest with ourselves, if push came to shove enough will side with the fascist left.

CA, CT, MD, NY, MA all have their own "safe acts" and have gotten away with them so far. I think this will only grow.

Look at here in NY with our idiot politicians. They all rammed stupid unsafe through in the middle of the night out of necessity and half had never read it. Even many leaders from conservative areas in NY were pressured into doing it. It wouldnt be any different on a national level. They will go back to their districts and say "guys were not against the 2a, no one is taking your guns, its just common sense. We can't allow citizens to have such powerful a d deadly weapons, we made a mistake letting the assault weapons ban expire so we're just basically going back to how things were, it's common sense and were not against guns"


I am concerned over it.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

It's certainly something we should all take seriously and fight as best we can. However, I think it plausible we have more to gain from this whole thing, either way, then we have to lose. We basically have this ban already here in NY. Cuomo keeps bringing the SAFE act up but he isn't pushing for part deux. The rest of the country is not like NY and this isn't 1994. People are aware now and the AR15 is the most popular gun in the country. While the antigun politicians are all pushing for more control, the general puplic's attitude hasn't changed. If anything more people are looking to arm themselves.

 

[Grimscale]

Folks worry about government intervention but in reality this will have no impact as long as one
is not arrested or institutionalized.

The problem is how easy it is to be arrested and/or institutionalized without being able to defend yourself in Court. An additional problem is that the reasons you may be arrested and/or institutionalized are based on vague and overreaching ideas, which are subject to various interpretations, and can change on a moment's notice.

 

[livingston]

I slept on thinking over this potential ban, and the more I think about it, the more worried I think we should be.

Here's why I am concerned

Congress is useless. Even though republicans control house, senate, presidency, why can't they get anything done?
"Day 1, repeal Obama care" ya...how did that go?

Trump gets minimalnsupport from Congress or the Senate even from his own party when we run all of it!

Mid terms are coming up.

90% of Politicians on the right are a bunch of sell out, self preservation, career saving cucks. They would sell any one of us or our rights out if they felt it would prolong their worthless careers.

The media, celebrities, hollywood, academia are coming out hard to push More anti gun legislation. Most of us could care less what idiots who probably never graduated high school but who have made careers about crying or laughing on cue and being hot think. They are no beacons of wisdom or enlightenment but the truth is millions of Americans do. They think they have some voice of moral superiority and reasoning. Which they clearly don't. But it doesn't matter. If soccer mom up the road who doesn't think for herself believes them thats all that matters,

I really fear this country is just one more horrific shooting away from really getting more support to push it through.

I know our leaders won't stop it. Sure some republicans in very conservative areas would vote against it to save face but let's be honest with ourselves, if push came to shove enough will side with the fascist left.

CA, CT, MD, NY, MA all have their own "safe acts" and have gotten away with them so far. I think this will only grow.

Look at here in NY with our idiot politicians. They all rammed stupid unsafe through in the middle of the night out of necessity and half had never read it. Even many leaders from conservative areas in NY were pressured into doing it. It wouldnt be any different on a national level. They will go back to their districts and say "guys were not against the 2a, no one is taking your guns, its just common sense. We can't allow citizens to have such powerful a d deadly weapons, we made a mistake letting the assault weapons ban expire so we're just basically going back to how things were, it's common sense and were not against guns"


I am concerned over it.

and half had never read it.... How much other crap do they pass without reading it ... And we get stuck

 

[Koz]

None of my guns has ever assaulted anyone. By my definition, I do not own an assault weapon. If the left can make shit up, so can I.

 

[meketrefe]

The problem is how easy it is to be arrested and/or institutionalized without being able to defend yourself in Court. An additional problem is that the reasons you may be arrested and/or institutionalized are based on vague and overreaching ideas, which are subject to various interpretations, and can change on a moment's notice.

Not like that. the guy in texas had a criminal and mental record and the stupid system fvcked up. that person belonged in a mental institution.
So the system is not working well. They need to put accountability. I bet the families are going to sue the state.

 

[Phazer]

Not like that. the guy in texas had a criminal and mental record and the stupid system fvcked up. that person belonged in a mental institution.
So the system is not working well. They need to put accountability. I bet the families are going to sue the state.

The federal government, through the Air Force, failed to enter data into the sysyem.

 

[Robin]

The federal government, through the Air Force, failed to enter data into the sysyem.

Maybe they did, and maybe they didn't. Maybe the FBI screwed up. First reports of this particular blurb were that the USAF did indeed send the FBI this info. So we are now to believe yet another government narrative after they have been proven to lie to us time and time again. Why lie? I don't know, maybe the USAF can't be sued, I don't know all the tort statutes.
Robin

 

[livingston]

Democrats’ New ‘Assault Weapons’ Bill Would Ban the GLOCK 17, More Semi-Auto Pistols


by Johannes Paulsen |

Nov 10, 2017 |



The text of Senator Dianne Feinstein’s assault rifle ban bill is now available on her website and, contra Nick’s expectations, it isn’t simply a copy-and-paste re-run of the failed Clinton era assault rifle ban language. It’s worse. Much worse.

How bad is it? In the first four pages, it bans the popular GLOCK 17 9mm pistol, a gun that’s commonly used for shooting sports and personal self defense by hundreds of thousands of Americans.

That’s right, one of the most reliable, commonly-used pistols in the US, from one of the most popular firearms manufacturers in the world is now on the chopping block.

But it’s not just the G17. The Beretta 92, the CZ75, and the HK VP70 would also be forbidden. Heck, even the Luger P08 would be out.

Why? Because among the many things the bill prohibits — from the “CZ Scorpion Pistol” [sic], which it somehow defines as an “AK” to the jihad it wages against barrel shrouds that keep people from injuring themselves — the senior Senator from California wants to ban any “semiautomatic versions of an automatic firearm.” (See page 4 of the bill.)

That means that if a manufacturer ever made a fully-automatic version of a semi-automatic pistol (i.e. the GLOCK 18, a select fire version of the G17), the semi-auto gun would be verboten. Feinstein’s bill, if passed, would classify these guns as a “semiautomatic assault weapons” and, therefore, outlaw them.

Let’s be clear here: this isn’t a serious bill. This isn’t intended to generate a conversation leading to an acceptable compromise. This is pure red meat for the anti-gun base, written by a legislative staff who view the Bill of Rights with utter contempt. And it laughs in the face of Supreme Court precedent concerning commonly-used firearms.

To the civilian disarmament advocates who read this blog (and you know who you are): if you ever wonder why we fight you on every single issue, in every forum, on every two-bit propaganda show…if you wonder why rifles like the AR-15 and AK-47 have proliferated in civilian hands to an amazing degree in the past ten years…if you want to know why we burst into raucous laughter every time one of your acolytes in the legacy media parrots the falsehood, “no one’s coming for your guns,” this is why.


The bad faith, ignorance, and contempt for the Bill of Rights enshrined in Senator Feinstein’s latest 123-page abomination of a bill is why.
Democrats' New 'Assault Weapons' Bill Would Ban the GLOCK 17, More Semi-Auto Pistols - The Truth About Guns

 

[Defilade]

Ehhh, I don't give a Shiiiittttt!

 

[Phazer]

Democrats’ New ‘Assault Weapons’ Bill Would Ban the GLOCK 17, More Semi-Auto Pistols

by Johannes Paulsen |

Nov 10, 2017 |

The bad faith, ignorance, and contempt for the Bill of Rights enshrined in Senator Feinstein’s latest 123-page abomination of a bill is why.
Democrats' New 'Assault Weapons' Bill Would Ban the GLOCK 17, More Semi-Auto Pistols - The Truth About Guns

The current anti-American anti-constitutional stand-for-nothing Republicans will still compromise on some "common sense" legislation that restricts firearms and further erodes 2A rights. Watch....

 

[Phazer]

This bill would ban all AR upper receivers by banning handguards which the bill redefines as "barrel shrouds":

https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/pu...D1B1D722D5C4AEDAEBB6276AB36.awb-bill-text.pdf

23 ‘‘(38) The term ‘barrel shroud’—
24 ‘‘(A) means a shroud that is attached to, or
25 partially or completely encircles, the barrel of a fire-
1 arm so that the shroud protects the user of the fire-
2 arm from heat generated by the barrel; and
3 ‘‘(B) does not include— 4 ‘‘(i) a slide that partially or completely en- 5 closes the barrel; or 6 ‘‘(ii) an extension of the stock along the
7 bottom of the barrel which does not encircle or
8 substantially encircle the barrel.




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So...only non-tactical Mini-14s would be allowable as semiauto rifles for the .223 cartridge? Ruger will be thrilled.

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[Marine Cpl]

Don't worry about it. There are grandfather provisions. You gotz yours.

 

[Phazer]

Don't worry about it. There are grandfather provisions. You gotz yours.

I don't have any.

I just don't want to lose the ability to acquire some.

These bills are nuts! A national SAFE Act? Go for it, Progressives!

 

[Marine Cpl]

I don't have any.

I just don't want to lose the ability to acquire some.

These bills are nuts! A national SAFE Act? Go for it, Progressives!

If this ever goes through, the masses will say that. I gotz mine.

 

[Phazer]

If this ever goes through, the masses will say that. I gotz mine.

Maybe I'll have to get a Mini-14 to hedge my bets?

 

[livingston]

 

[livingston]

Maybe I'll have to get a Mini-14 to hedge my bets?

By time they are done it will be a bolt action with a 3 round mag ...

Ruger makes a 3 round polymer magazine for their Gunsite Scout rifle

Ruger Gunsite Scout .308 Win. Magazine 3 Rounds Polymer Black 90374 - 736676903740

 

[Phazer]

By time they are done it will be a bolt action with a 3 round mag ...

Ruger makes a 3 round polymer magazine for their Gunsite Scout rifle

I still predict that the confiscation strategy will be:

1. "Assault" rifles
2. All semiautomatic rifles
3. Semiautomatic shotguns
4. Magazine-fed bolt action rifles.
5. Semiautomatic handguns
6. All remaining bolt action rifles.
7. Pump-action shotguns
8. All remaining handguns (revolvers)

All the while, the mantra will be: "We are not taking away your guns. You still have access to ______." That blank will be filled by whatever has not yet been confiscated. In the end, we may be left with single-shot break-action shotguns and muzzle loaders.

As you'll notice, this scheme does not jump straight for confiscation of handguns or for "hunting rifles." That way, the population gets used to the idea of confiscation without initially affecting "true sportsman" or hunters. Additionally, Leftist Liberal Progressive states (like New York, California, New Jersey, and Massachusetts) will be the test beds for confiscation (called "mandatory buyback programs"). Such Leftist states will have popular support for such legislation and these states will serve as a national example. Then, after the "success" of the programs is proven, national confiscation will be rolled out for the rest of the country. This will happen the next time the Democrats control the presidency, House, and Senate (with 51 members since they will absolutely eliminate the filibuster rule).

 

[STS556]

Maybe now is the time to stock up on 80% lowers paid with cash. While they are not impossible to trace, its a little more involved to find them. This will buy the militas some time to organize and make use of our 2nd amendment.