Seneca nation wins legal victory against NYS over disputed land the I-90 was built

[Saltwater60]

Not me. It's ridiculous this is being decided now after all these years. The history was shitty but those events were over and done with a century ago. If you think the Indian "nation" is some scrappy underdog that shares our values then you are mistaken.

I was recently on a rafting ride out west in part of the Navajo nation. Our guide told stories about how the Navajo escaped the cavalry by climbing up and down steep canyon walls. The guide clearly was on the side of the Indians and most of the other people in the boat agreed. Yet if the Navajo had won none of these people would be enjoying their leisurely trip down the river.

I don't have any problem highlighting the atrocities of the plains wars but let's not over romanticize these people.

I’m not. We just screwed them on casino revenue sharing. NYS screws them all the time. I know they hate me because I’m a white man. I don’t really care. All I’m saying is NYS is no good either.

 

[Saltwater60]

you mean like how the oneidas said, give us the right to open a casino and we'll use the profits to better our community????
and then they said make it right that we want our land back and NY gave them huge swaths of land and they began to raise beef and crops only to give it up?
yea, so instead of really improving the overall community of oneidas per capital income, they spent it on more casinos, more smoke shops, pot shops, gas stations and other businesses all the while NOT improving to income of their community.
they are a great many oneidas living in the oneida, sherrill, verona area that are still living in poverty and getting ny public assistance, more assistance from ny than from the injun nation......................................

halbritter and cronies live very comfortably

Same as we do. Look what NYS did with the weed and smoke shops. They popped up all over the place. We don’t care about them so why should they care about us? Both sides suck.
I do agree the leaders screw their average everyday citizen just like NYS.

 

[Bigfoot]

 

[Bigfoot]

I know they hate me because I’m a white man. I don’t really care.

I have a few long-time friends who are Seneca Indians (I'm White), I know their families well, and there are some others that I know quite well too. And I never hear of, or get the sense of, that they hate the White man. I just thought I'd mention it. One of my wife's best friends is a Seneca Indian. (My wife is White)

I can only speak of the Tonawanda Reservation that I'm on every day and the Senecas who live there/here. It's a small Reservation with around 900, maybe 1,000 people living on it. Things could be different on the other Reservations, IDK. But on this one, I don't sense any hatred for the White man.

They do not trust the NY State Government or the Federal Government at all. But they have much more distrust of the NY State Government. Even though the NY State Government has no legal jurisdiction on Reservations, which is entirely a federal matter. But the NY State Government has gone rogue and is a lawless Government. The law-abiding gun owners here in NY already know that. I'm just saying.

 

[Zerex]

Facts and history do not seem to matter here.


the Supreme Court decided long ago that Indians could BUY UP LAND......Land claims are defunct due to LACHES................no, not door latches.

The Oneidas have purchased land with Casinio Profits, as have other nations.

EAT IT..FACT

This recent decision, by a Magistrate Judge, that has generated so much blather is just a non starter legally.

As posted before, but none here reads, for the most part.

Financial Statements - New York State Thruway

 

[Saltwater60]

I have a few long-time friends who are Seneca Indians (I'm White), I know their families well, and there are some others that I know quite well too. And I never hear of, or get the sense of, that they hate the White man. I just thought I'd mention it. One of my wife's best friends is a Seneca Indian. (My wife is White)

I can only speak of the Tonawanda Reservation that I'm on every day and the Senecas who live there/here. It's a small Reservation with around 900, maybe 1,000 people living on it. Things could be different on the other Reservations, IDK. But on this one, I don't sense any hatred for the White man.

They do not trust the NY State Government or the Federal Government at all. But they have much more distrust of the NY State Government. Even though the NY State Government has no legal jurisdiction on Reservations, which is entirely a federal matter. But the NY State Government has gone rogue and is a lawless Government. The law-abiding gun owners here in NY already know that. I'm just saying.

Well I don’t like or trust those governments either. I don’t have any id say I’m friends with but the ones I have spoken to have indicated they don’t really care for the white man. One was a representative at the wire county fair and he all but said he’d love to kill is all and “make it the way it used to be”. Granted he was kidnapped and sent to a government reeducation school so I can understand this.

 

[GOPerfect]

Fck the indians.

In the end, they will lose, as usual.

 

[Defilade]

They would make a fortune making ammo to sell. Get pressing Tonto's!!

 

[Bigfoot]

They would make a fortune making ammo to sell. Get pressing Tonto's!!

They won't do that because they don't want to bring the heat of the New York State Government down on them, and it would. Even though New York State has no jurisdiction on a Reservation, once again, that's a Federal thing. But that doesn't mean that Hochul wouldn't make life rough for them in any way she could, just like Cuomo did back in 2009 - 2010.

They don't need to do that either, as they're making tons of money as it is with the fuel and cigarette sales, and now with the dispensaries. All without triggering Hochul the Horrible.
Anything gun/ammo related would certainly trigger Hochul.