Sick of the NRA? Read this

[Rocpo]

Sick of the NRA? Read this. | Duane Liptak with a reality check

Whether you hate the NRA (Darth) or are just "meh" about them, it's an interesting read.

Duane seems like a straight shooter and may give a little better insight.

 

[Curmudgeon]

This is all part of a joint publicity campaign. that bitch who used to be president did the same. Fuck each and every one of those pussies.

 

[MadScientist]

That was a good read. I understand his arguments and am inclined to agree, there is a difference between ideology and realpolitik. The swamp is a tricky place to navigate

 

[SomeSoldier]

Don't talk about it, be about it. They need to go do something or die a slow painful death.

 

[Darth]

LMFAO, what in the world was that!?

"After Vegas, bumpfire stock legislation was drafted, but NRA had the juice to kill it. "



You can't take any article that says that seriously.

 

[Airborneguy]

Without the NRA we would be much worse off than we are. Republican politicians don’t all support gun rights anymore than the dems. A lot of them do it because of the money and influence the NRA wields. They’re the best we have right now. I’m sticking with them.

 

[Bustedknees]

Like them or not , there wouldn't be a legal firearm in the USA without them

 

[GOYABEAN]

They might have started off with our 2nd amendment in mind but it's changed to the priority of $$$$$ the main adjective

 

[BDinPutnam]

Each and every contact I have ever had with them is a potential one way financial transaction.

 

[Curmudgeon]

Like them or not , there wouldn't be a legal firearm in the USA without them

Can you elaborate on that? Sounds a bit off to me.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Without the NRA we would be much worse off than we are. Republican politicians don’t all support gun rights anymore than the dems. A lot of them do it because of the money and influence the NRA wields. They’re the best we have right now. I’m sticking with them.

This is more than likely true but just like any other corporation, they are there first and foremost to make money. There is no money to be made if all our 2a rights are secure. This is probably their thoughts. I think people would still donate to ensure nothing like this every happened. But we will never know and right now if they were on fire I wouldn't piss on them to put it out.

 

[SomeSoldier]

After thought, when was the last time they made a phone call, "what is gong on right now in your neck of the woods that we can help with?"

 

[BDinPutnam]

Can you elaborate on that? Sounds a bit off to me.

GCA?

Hughes amendment?

Federal AWB?

 

[Airborneguy]

The NRA does other things. Expanded 2a rights would benefit them as well through training classes, competitions, advertising in their magazines, etc.

 

[BDinPutnam]

After thought, when was the last time they made a phone call, "what is gong on right now in your neck of the woods that we can help with?"

Reminds me.

One of their "polls" called me asking what the biggest threat to gun rights was. I said "none of the above- how about you guys come do some actual work in NY, the state that sends your organization the most money?"

She didn't like my answer much.

 

[Burzum]

If the NRA worked as hard as the Second Amendment Foundation did with their limited resources, we would be in better shape.

However as "AirbornGuy" rightly stated the GOP is full of morons who are as uncomfortable with guns as the Dems.

 

[Mosinitis]

CMP is slowly taking over competitive shooting and it is doing a better job than the NRA.

 

[redtail]

GOA is the only NO compromise group lobbying for 2A now. But anything that pisses off the likes of chuck and nancy is a good thing , so I will continue to send the NRA the 30$ a yr.for this reason alone.

 

[fartgamer]

If the NRA worked as hard as the Second Amendment Foundation did with their limited resources, we would be in better shape.
.

And GOA

 

[redtail]

Without the NRA we would be much worse off than we are. Republican politicians don’t all support gun rights anymore than the dems. A lot of them do it because of the money and influence the NRA wields. They’re the best we have right now. I’m sticking with them.

You were saying ?
Five Republicans Join Democrat Push to Criminalize Private Gun Sales

 

[BDinPutnam]

And GOA

And NYSRPA.

Oh, uh, nevermind.

 

[Airborneguy]

You were saying ?
Five Republicans Join Democrat Push to Criminalize Private Gun Sales

Exactly my point. Many of the republicans we have are only on our “team” because of NRA money and support. These 5 prove the point.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Exactly my point. Many of the republicans we have are only on our “team” because of NRA money and support. These 5 prove the point.

Then they should be removed from office and tried to sedition. They have gone against their oath of office and used their position for personal gain.

 

[Airborneguy]

Would be nice, but you know that isn’t happening.

 

[Airborneguy]

Best bet for a revolution? RBG kicks it in the next few months. Mark my words. Open warfare in the streets.

 

[Curmudgeon]

GCA?

Hughes amendment?

Federal AWB?

I got 4473 problems and the NRA ain't 1

 

[Bustedknees]

Can you elaborate on that? Sounds a bit off to me.

What more proof do you need.. every libtard Democrat hates and fears the NRA.. people like the Clinton's go after the NRA every chance they get.. I know there are others but no other has the political power in Washington DC.

 

[Curmudgeon]

What more proof do you need.. every libtard Democrat hates and fears the NRA.. people like the Clinton's go after the NRA every chance they get.. I know there are others but no other has the political power in Washington DC.

Not looking for proof per se. Just interested in understanding what makes you say what you did.

 

[Blimey]

GOA is the only NO compromise group lobbying for 2A now. But anything that pisses off the likes of chuck and nancy is a good thing , so I will continue to send the NRA the 30$ a yr.for this reason alone.

This author's point is that no compromise is a philosophical argument, and not a prescription for anything meaningful.

This is akin to perfect is the enemy of good.

The author claims he'd love to order suppressed belt fed machine guns through the mail, but that he knows it will never happen. NRA likely represents the best alternative there is.

He's making the Seinfeld argument. Seinfeld used to have a slew of awesome girl friends, but they always had one flaw, which he could not overlook. As such he was perpetually in new relationships, doomed to never find any true happiness, which has compromises.

This is also why the bulk of people here vote Republicans, even though nobody here is happy with everything republicans do.

 

[Darth]

Nonsense. The "woe is me, they are the best chance we've got" routine falls flat when you actively support anti gun bills.

"But they kicked my range a few boxes of ammo!"