South Africa SHTF/ Apocalypse situation

[DoD1776]

He seemed like he knew how to take care of himself.

His partner, not so much....

It was his partners first day on the job! He was scared shitless lol

 

[Acer-m14]

grandma may be on our side too ..

 

[libertysnake]

Interesting discussion. One person summarized the situation pretty well:

The situation is incredibly complex and it's the confluence of multiple factors.

Colonialism and Apartheid laid the groundwork for a lot of what's happening. Centuries of privation will not be undone in under three decades if you still need to make obeisance to capital. The vast majority of South Africans were denied the opportunity to create wealth and to build generational wealth. They were also forcefully removed from their homes. Any talk of redressing these injustices is immediately met with hysterics.

Rampant inequality. I don't think poverty is a causal factor here - there are nations in Africa and around the world that are significantly poorer. Inequality combined with unemployment and an economic system that exemplifies owning capital as the highest moral good breeds resentment.

The failure of the post-apartheid government is the powder-keg that's been lit. For nearly 30 years the ANC has run on a platform of food and housing and jobs and education for everyone and for thirty years they have failed to make a meaningful dent into these issues. Some things have definitely improved, but not by a large enough margin or quickly enough.

The Zuma decade exacerbated fundamental, structural issues in South African society. It's thought that his tenure cost South Africa trillions of rand. He is, however, very charismatic and he's made friends with the right people. Our State Security Agency has indicated that former members still loyal to Zuma have been agitating or instigating a lot of the unrest.

COVID worsened the situation in SA significantly. More unemployment, less money, more expensive goods and services = more resentment and anger.

The arrest of Jacob Zuma was the match that lit the fuse. He has convicted and arrested for contempt of court. Not just any court, but the highest court in the country. He was in contempt because he refused to appear before a commission that's investigating - in part - his corruption. This triggered, at first, protests from loyalists and has now devolved into civil unrest that belies decades of broken promises.

In a nutshell and embarrassingly incomplete, these are what I consider the main factors behind the unrest.

They should take a note from the left. They've been running cities into the ground economically without a peep from the poor over here.

 

[Criticalt]

looting by "zuma's supporters".

What a laugh! 99% of these people couldn't give a f. They are just using the mayhem as an excuse to get some free shit.

Also sounds familiar.

 

[Blimey]

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I googled this and it looks like the source material is this article:

South Africa unrest: Militias fill lawless vacuum after worst violence since Apartheid

PLUS: How the surge of unrest in the wake of Jacob Zuma’s imprisonment has exposed stark divides

www.telegraph.co.uk

That article doesn't call out white militias in the heading but I didn't bother to check if it did a few days ago. It now just refers to "militias" filling the lawless vacuum.

He was noticeable for being the only black man among a group of about a dozen heavily-armed white men who are part of an impromptu militia who have stepped into the vacuum left by a police force hopelessly overstretched by South Africa's worst outburst of street violence since the fall of Apartheid.

The sight of an all-white force of gunmen stopping vehicles carrying mostly black passengers brings back uncomfortable memories of the past. But residents here feel it is their last line of defence.

8.9% of south africans are white. I'm sure there is a picture somewhere of a white person looting, but I can truly say 100% of the ones I've seen in the various pictures/videos are black, so it shouldn't be a surprise that whites, who are not looting, are doing something else.

Not sure of veracity but I've seen a few pics on twitter of barricades setup in front of neighborhoods with signs demanding proof of residency to travel into them.

 

[spat]

It was his partners first day on the job! He was scared shitless lol

Completely understandably too.

I bet his pants weren't shitless though.

 

[stokes]

I bet his pants weren't shitless though.

Of course not,when you are "scared shitless" you become "shitless" by evacuating your bowels.......into your pants.... most likely.

 

[GOPerfect]

 

[Robin]

Well, you can't get more up front about their intentions than that.
Robin

 

[tirwin1]

Wonder if this will ultimately be something like the Hutus vs the Tutsis in Rwanda.

 

[drowhawk]

 

[Drinkthekoolaid]

They're destroying all the farms and looted all the stores trucks and warehouses.

What can go wrong?

 

[ArmedCorgi]

The last comment said he was quoting someone....wonder if there is any truth to that?

 

[prambo]

Point of order:
Careful with that "colonialism" stuff. SA was uninhabited when the Boers showed up.

Patently false.

Somehow I think the Xhosa and Zulu would disagree.

 

[meketrefe]

The US gave the example and lead on how a society should behave in times when people should be coming together.
I feel any politicians who do not condemn any kind of violence and looking when it happens they are as guilty as they ones doing the looting.
One thing is protesting all you want, the other is invading buildings, destroying property, looting and/or attacking innocent people.

Here is a store that was spared from the looting...

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

Somehow I think the Xhosa and Zulu would disagree.

Incorrect.

Zulu were far north of Boer turf. Xhosa were northeast, but friendly, and as the Boer land was tamed the Xhosa mingled southward.
Zulu stayed north until the Boers made SA better than where the Zulu already were, and then tried to do what Zulu do.

 

[prambo]

Incorrect.

Zulu were far north of Boer turf. Xhosa were northeast, but friendly, and as the Boer land was tamed the Xhosa mingled southward.
Zulu stayed north until the Boers made SA better than where the Zulu already were, and then tried to do what Zulu do.

Well, I guess you're the expert.

Assume you lived there and/or have made a study of tribal movements and interactions with the early Boer settlers.

Or did you just surf it on Goolag?

So I'll just shut the fuck up.

No response is necessary.

 

[livingston]

Talks about ammo running short. Government only allows 200 rounds per person/household ? Sounds like what they would try here at some point... I understand in NY City This is already the case. (limit on ammo)

 

[livingston]

Videos begin at the 17:47 mark. of what is going on over there.

 

[CaseHardened]

Imagine this man as your hero:

Then this one:

 

[Catskillkid]

There's a thread on Reddit about countries to not visit. Almost universally, South Africa was the number one choice, even before vthr current riots. Even the people who live there say they are desperate to get out.

 

[BerettaGuy]

Warning! Graphic Content and language.

I have followed this guy for years. He is a South African that fled to China. He is the reason I heard about the Wuhon Flu before anyone else did.
Here he is describing the total breakdown of law in So Africa.

His contacts have sent him videos of what is happening.
Listen to how precious ammunition has become. Sure we have heard about looting but it is worse than that.
They are destroying infrastructure and Supply Chain. It is a real SHTF for all involved and it is all about race.
For those of us who think we are prepared for the coming "zombie apocalypse" . Food or the lack thereof will become the next issue..

He also has a great message to Americans.
File this under schidt you won't see on CNN.

 

[tirwin1]

If the black majority wants to go on a killing spree I don't see how it can be prevented.

 

[BerettaGuy]

If the black majority wants to go on a killing spree I don't see how it can be prevented.

Yup! Majority Rules! Except in the US. The ANC is the culprit. They are gangsta's and are corrupt as hell.

 

[Catskillkid]

Everything I've been reading about South Africa is that it was a country that has turned into a complete shithole ever since apartheid ended. The ANC had a chance to make it a great country for everyone but they blew it.

Everyone of substance and character (blacks and especially whites) want to get the fuck out of that country as quickly as possible.

Makes Venezuela's descent look like an amusement park ride.

 

[Stuckinny]

Let's play Minnesota or South Africa?

 

[Catskillkid]

Let's play Minnesota or South Africa?

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Those are the only two choices?

 

[Stuckinny]

No, but listing all the possible countries, states and cities would take too long.

 

[Acer-m14]

I Love NY

 

[Howdy]

They're destroying all the farms and looted all the stores trucks and warehouses.

What can go wrong?

I remember like 10 years ago listening to a VERY far out there conspiracy person talking about how aliens are going to control people via things like WiFi, subliminals through the tv, etc. She said the dumbest will be the most susceptible, and that some will start acting like zombies, specifically in their hive mind behavior.

I used to laugh at shit like that, but looking around for the last couple of years I've started saying to myself "well, do I have a better explanation for what's happening?"

Sorry for the schizo rant.