John Stark
.44 mag
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Temporary Restaining Order Issued For Concealed Carry Improvement Act (merged thread)
- Thread starter Glock_USA
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You didn't really expect anything else did you???
Hierlevelz
9mm
Of course not.
Steal2B
.700 Nitro Express
New York State moves towards creating a firearms instructor shortage
My adopted state of residence, New York, is one of the worst states for being a peaceable gun owner.
bearingarms.com
livingston
20×102mm Vulcan
5/9/23 In this video I break down the recent effort by New York to moot lawsuits challenging their new concealed carry laws. These laws were passed in defiance of the Supreme Court's NYSRPA v. Bruen decision.
ManualF150
.308 Win
NY... "Running scared"?
Umm, yeah, okay...
The only writing I see on the wall is criminals continuing to have their unlimited 2A rights, while the rest of us peasants continue to get the shaft.
Umm, yeah, okay...
The only writing I see on the wall is criminals continuing to have their unlimited 2A rights, while the rest of us peasants continue to get the shaft.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
yep moot the case we change the law .. just like before ..
look up the current 265.01/E took me 5 searches to find it ..
to carry in a church . you have to pass NYS Test still .. Private Security
SECTION 265.01-E
Criminal possession of a firearm, rifle or shotgun in a sensitive location ...
to the section ..
3. This section shall not apply to:
(a) consistent with federal law, law enforcement who qualify to carry
under the federal law enforcement officers safety act, 18 U.S.C. 926C;
(b) persons who are police officers as defined in subdivision
thirty-four of section 1.20 of the criminal procedure law;
(c) persons who are designated peace officers by section 2.10 of the
criminal procedure law;
(d) persons who were employed as police officers as defined in
subdivision thirty-four of section 1.20 of the criminal procedure law
but are retired;
(e) security guards as defined by and registered under article seven-A
of the general business law, who have been granted a special armed
registration card, while at the location of their employment and during
their work hours as such a security guard;
(f) active-duty military personnel;
(g) persons licensed under paragraph (c), (d) or (e) of subdivision
two of section 400.00 of this chapter while in the course of his or her
official duties;
(h) a government employee under the express written consent of such
employee's supervising government entity for the purposes of natural
resource protection and management;
(i) persons lawfully engaged in hunting activity, including hunter
education training; or
(j) persons operating a program in a sensitive location out of their
residence, as defined by this section, which is licensed, certified,
authorized, or funded by the state or a municipality, so long as such
possession is in compliance with any rules or regulations applicable to
the operation of such program and use or storage of firearms.
NYS Open Legislation | NYSenate.gov
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
so much for separation of Church and State to protect your Church
RedBreast21
6.5 Creedmoor
I'm sure its all heading back to the SCOTUS for 2024 elections. My understanding is that there is basically very little difference now between NY's Premise permit and Carry permit under the new law. Having both and using in a law manner can get you a felony conviction.
Basically all Carry permits are basically premise permits unless business's, property owners of business's like malls and shopping centers or any private property you may come in contact doesn't provide a sign or give you verbal/written permission of authorization, would then be illegal. That would include gas pumps, car wash ice cream parlor....ect.
SCOTUS will rule against the 2nd circuit but that is exactly what they want.
Basically all Carry permits are basically premise permits unless business's, property owners of business's like malls and shopping centers or any private property you may come in contact doesn't provide a sign or give you verbal/written permission of authorization, would then be illegal. That would include gas pumps, car wash ice cream parlor....ect.
SCOTUS will rule against the 2nd circuit but that is exactly what they want.
maverick52
.223 Rem
I could care less anymore about the CCIA.
NYS and the Second Circuit (like the Seventh Circuit) are defying scotus because they think that SCOTUS is in error. They see this as a moral issue and will obfuscate, delay and circumvent as long as they can. The only way this is resolved is if the Supreme Court throws down the gauntlet and intervenes with very strict instructions. Even so, there is no consequence for defying the high court. So I don’t expect any of this to get resolved any time soon if ever. Each person has to determine for themselves what level of risk you are willing to take if and when you carry.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
None of this should be an issue. I must be getting old as I seem to remember a time when the SC carried weight as outlined in the Constitution.
Saltwater60
20×102mm Vulcan
Do you remember when we had rights?
Depick
.308 Win
Pepperidge Farm does
Dr. Evil
20×102mm Vulcan
What are these rights you talk about?
Bustedknees
12-gauge slug (smooth bore)
still pissing over the fence with zero consequences.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
how many days is it now that rights have been delayed by the 2nd Circus Zoo
Slacker43
.40 S&W
CONCEALED CARRY. Practice it. Get proficient with it. Carry on. Fuck nys. Fuck the 2nd circuit. Stop letting people take your rights. At some point you have to take a a stand and take your rights back. It the fucking purpose of the 2A for fucks sake.
alistair
6.5 Creedmoor
Has there been any movement by courts on this?
ManualF150
.308 Win
If there was, this thread wouldn't take a search to find it.
Your rhetoric sounds great and all, and I completely agree with it but.........are you going to be paying my court fees, defense fees and supporting my family while I am being convicted of an unjust law? It means fuckall whether or not a law is just or not, if it is enforced than it is the law. Period. Full stop. Unless you are rich of course, than the law doesn't apply to you.
Concealed is Concealed. Noone SHOULD know your carrying. If they do, you're doing it wrong in the first place.
CaliberPlus
.45 acp
The Second Circuit Court has adjourned. I cannot find anything as to oh, something like a decision. So, we continue to wait.
FrankenCub
.338 Win Mag
Nothing will come of this. Well, nothing good anyway.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
So much for that stern warning from SCOTUS 
ManualF150
.308 Win
It's all a horse and pony show.So much for that stern warning from SCOTUS
Law abiding citizens always get the shaft.
Not just with gun laws. Look at all the shit that's going on.
What's the point in concealed carry if you never use it? A security blanket? If you DO use it you are right back to my previous statement. Ain't the real world so fuckin' great?
Life's full of those circumstances.
Homeowners insurance
Car insurance
Fire extinguishers
Health insurance
Bet you have at least 2 of them. Going to cancel any of them? Doubtful. Stop carrying? Nah, it's insurance.
Beerman
6.5 Creedmoor
Having home/fire insurance policy while out in public is completely lawful, even if caught carrying it. Having car insurance is required by law. Having health insurance was mandated for a few years, too. Having those things, and using them, will not get you thrown in the clink. And none of them are protected by the Constitution. Think about that.
Acer-m14
20×102mm Vulcan
and people still drive cars with no insurance or license
people still still do not have health insurance ..
people still do not have home owners insurance
^^^ me i live in a 1965 trailer and own it .. cant get it .. ..
can't get fire insurance for it either ..