THE ADVENTURES OF THE 47TH PRESIDENT....

[spat]

Haven't they stated, numerous times, that they plan on using tariff money to fund the .gov and lower our taxes?
That is essentially "pumping that collected tariff money back into the people".

Time will tell if this is just more smoke up our ass...

The problem is that there is a trillion dollar deficit to overcome before they can funnel any of it back.

When you're putting a trillion dollars a year on your credit card you don't see any day to day benefit when you just knock that down to 750 billion.

We have dug ourselves a very deep hole. People who expect instant gratification from financial responsibility are in for a disappointment.

 

[fresch]

Fair point but if they are being rounded up and removed would some of them take the $1,000? I’m guessing not many will because going back home isn’t a viable option or they would not have worked so hard to get here in the first place.

Worked so hard! Yet didn't lose a pound walking from Africa, Chile, south America, mideast, all in flip flops while charging their Iphones.

 

[Acer-m14]

I'm keeping track of all the tariffs i have to pay and will deduct them from my taxes ..

 

[Defilade]

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[libertysnake]

Haven't they stated, numerous times, that they plan on using tariff money to fund the .gov and lower our taxes?
That is essentially "pumping that collected tariff money back into the people".

Time will tell if this is just more smoke up our ass...

I'll believe it when I see it.

 

[CaseHardened]

President Trump is being backed into a corner by the Communists and their enablers.

He needs to temporarily suspend Habeas Corpus, so as to deport very last Foreign National. Just as the Biden Regime held the January 6th patriots without charges or access to a lawyer.

And then follow President Lincoln's lead in shutting down the media and the opposition until the Communists are sufficiently weakened.

We have too much to lose.

 

[kev74]

A little more weekend winning!

 

[thughes]

He needs to temporarily suspend Habeas Corpus.....

And then follow President Lincoln's lead in shutting down the media and the opposition until the Communists are sufficiently weakened.

Kinda like Stalin, Mao, etc. did? Great idea!

 

[kev74]

More winning!

 

[kev74]

This is the only time in history when there is an expectation that invading armies are to be treated better by the invaded nation that it treats its own citizens.

 

[spat]

Kinda like Stalin, Mao, etc. did? Great idea!

Yea, that seldom ends well.

Lincoln was the exception rather than the rule.

 

[CaseHardened]

Yea, that seldom ends well.

Lincoln was the exception rather than the rule.

So tell me...

Should the Mass Deportation of Illegal Aliens fail, what outcome do you predict?

 

[CaseHardened]

And ... has anyone been paying attention to the arrest and incarceration of Jan 6 peaceful protestors? To the railroading of Derek Chauvin? To the dismissal of Student Loans? To Voter Fraud? To the destruction of our energy infrastructure? To surgical mutilation of children's sexual organs? To the FBI atrocities?

But it's more than that.

Without major reconstruction the USA will soon be a Third World country at best. Or conquered by China at worst.

And if you are ethnic Han Chinese your life be one of slavery.

If you are anything else, you will not be allowed to live at all.

 

[CaseHardened]

The Constitution is not a Suicide Pact.

 

[spat]

So tell me...

Should the Mass Deportation of Illegal Aliens fail, what outcome do you predict?

Well, you'll never get them all.

And we've already got some.

So, the question is how many do you *need* to get ?

And how many more would you get by effectively declaring martial law ?

That's *VERY* dangerous juju right there. The risk is not worth the reward IMHO.

 

[stokes]

They claim somewhere in the 133,000 range have been deported since Jan. I know that rate cant be maintained but its a good start. They also say Obuma sent 5 mil packing, and he wasnt even trying like Trump is, I think its fair to hope for 8-10 mil by the time he's done. Trouble will be keeping a dem out of POTUS, they will just let them all back in..... and more.

 

[CaseHardened]

From what I've seen we have apprehended 1% or less.

We need to expel 90% at a minimum.

 

[kev74]

Can anyone handle even more winning???

 

[fresch]

Wait for the rest of the world to pay for their own and you will see the socialist start crying as their cost of living increases and ours go down.
Cut cut cut!

 

[tirwin1]

Remember back in trump's first term, when the republicans had both houses of congress as well? Remember how that rat bastard RINO paul ryan just couldn't seem to find the time to repeal obamacare even though a bill to do so had been introduced a couple of times prior to trump's election?

We have the same do nothing congress now. The republicans hold both houses but they haven't done a goddam thing, even holding hearings where Fauci can be grilled (he can't take the 5th because he was pardoned). These people are contemptible.

TOTALLY WORTHLESS: GOP Controlled House and Senate Sent Fewer Bills to GOP President Than Any Congress in 70 Years * The Gateway Pundit * by Jim Hoft

President Trump won the 2024 election in a landslide, winning the US Presidency with 312 electoral votes, all of the battleground states, the popular vote, the…

www.thegatewaypundit.com

 

[Saltwater60]

Well, you'll never get them all.

And we've already got some.

So, the question is how many do you *need* to get ?

And how many more would you get by effectively declaring martial law ?

That's *VERY* dangerous juju right there. The risk is not worth the reward IMHO.

To me the bigger benefit was to stop the flow of new ones coming into the country and that seems to have happened. Of course it’s important to remove as many as possible and especially the bad actors. You are correct that we will never get them all for many reasons. We need to evaluate the financial impact of this and make a determination as to what point we should stop. By what point I mean we have successfully captured say 93% of felons, 75% of those with a misdemeanor and 60% that have no criminal record. Is that acceptable because to get more it will take us more time and effort spending more money. Whats the cut off or the off ramp point? Hard to say.

 

[Saltwater60]

Can anyone handle even more winning???

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So one has to ask how this works? It’s through an executive order so I don’t like the process of how we got there. Let me ask why this wasn’t put through the house and senate? Surely it would have passed and who in their right mind would have voted no for it. If the democrats did vote no wouldn’t this be a great way to say they are all talk and no action and will do anything to subvert republicans? This to me would be the best bipartisan support bill that I can think of. So why wasn’t it down this way? Not saying Trump shouldn’t have acted and done this it just makes me think there’s more to this and it can be undone easily. Sorry I just do t trust politicians, any of them but this is pretty great and I’d love to see how the left will hate this one. He’s smart to do a few things people might hate then pull this out of his hat to detract from that stuff.

 

[Saltwater60]

They claim somewhere in the 133,000 range have been deported since Jan. I know that rate cant be maintained but it’s a good start. They also say Obuma sent 5 mil packing, and he wasnt even trying like Trump is, I think it’s fair to hope for 8-10 mil by the time he's done. Trouble will be keeping a dem out of POTUS, they will just let them all back in..... and more.

Keep in mind Obama’s 5 million packing that administration decided to count every person encountered and prevented from entering the country. That is a huge difference between hunting them down in the USA, capturing them, and deporting them. Biden could have sent 5-10 times obamas number packing but he opened the gates and let them in instead of turning them away.

 

[stokes]

To me the bigger benefit was to stop the flow of new ones coming into the country and that seems to have happened. Of course it’s important to remove as many as possible and especially the bad actors. You are correct that we will never get them all for many reasons. We need to evaluate the financial impact of this and make a determination as to what point we should stop. By what point I mean we have successfully captured say 93% of felons, 75% of those with a misdemeanor and 60% that have no criminal record. Is that acceptable because to get more it will take us more time and effort spending more money. Whats the cut off or the off ramp point? Hard to say.

I think they continue full steam ahead for a yr or two then just go to normal deportation procedures. Like you said, the big thing is keeping the border secure, which will only last as long as the commies arent in charge.

So one has to ask how this works? It’s through an executive order so I don’t like the process of how we got there. Let me ask why this wasn’t put through the house and senate? Surely it would have passed and who in their right mind would have voted no for it. If the democrats did vote no wouldn’t this be a great way to say they are all talk and no action and will do anything to subvert republicans? This to me would be the best bipartisan support bill that I can think of. So why wasn’t it down this way? Not saying Trump shouldn’t have acted and done this it just makes me think there’s more to this and it can be undone easily. Sorry I just do t trust politicians, any of them but this is pretty great and I’d love to see how the left will hate this one. He’s smart to do a few things people might hate then pull this out of his hat to detract from that stuff.

Thats the problem with everything he has done so far, it'll all be undone just like Biden did when he got put in office. As you say "all talk and no action" is the game thats been played in Congress forever

 

[Saltwater60]

From what I've seen we have apprehended 1% or less.

We need to expel 90% at a minimum.

90% of what? 90% of all illegals in this country captured and deported? Let’s be real and that will never happen. It’s not even feasible. First any number is a guess at best how many are here. 90% of felons might be reasonable but the cost to deport 90% of every illegal will be staggering and nearly impossible to achieve. Biden should have been stopped by arrest or any other legal means to stop these illegals at the boarder. Now we are stuck with many of them forever because it’s just not possible to get them all or even most of them.
If the number posted above of 133,000 is remotely accurate we’re about 4 months into his presidency. Let’s say they have been actively doing this for 2 months now and got 133,000 then we multiple that by 6 to get a year and we get about 800,000. If we take 800,000 and multiple it by 4 because we assume they will get better and more efficient at this you’re at 3.2 million captured and deported. That number is roughly 25% of the illegals in the USA currently. At some point that rate will decrease so to get 90% you’re looking at well over a decade to accomplish that and that’s not counting the extras sneaking in or democrats stopping this when they are in power. Feasibly you’re looking at 15 years of this to accomplish that.

Now he wants to hire 20,000 officers to help with the deportation efforts. So do we support this? I don’t support expanding the federal government in any fashion. The way to approach this is to say to all these sanitary states and cities you get no federal money if you don’t hand over criminals/illegal aliens arrested/encountered for deportation. NUS has given them driver licenses/ID’s so they know who they are and where they live right?

Donald Trump calls for 20,000 new officers to aid with deportations

The directive is part of his administration's drive to incentivise illegal immigrants to self-deport.

www.bbc.com

From the article and this is a joke. Whats do the other people working there do? If there is only 6,000 people designated to capture and deport 11-12 million illegal aliens good luck as it will never happen. Maybe this supports hiring more to do the work, but again the cost has to be weighed. Government needs to start thinking like a business and there is a point of diminished returns. I get there are things that need to be done regardless of cost but at what point do we say we accomplished the goal and did what we could? I’m sure plenty will say never stop until they are all gone but keep in mind roughly half of all murders in the USA go unsolved last I looked so we will never get them all.
Immigrations and Customs Enforcement (ICE), the sub-agency that primarily deals with illegal immigration, currently has more than 21,000 employees.
Of those, it has 6,100 deportation officers and more than 750 enforcement removal assistants, according to the agency's website.

 

[Defilade]

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene Says Epstein Files Likely Destroyed, Claims Israel and UK Still Hold Remaining Evidence — Believes ‘He Didn’t Kill Himself’ * The Gateway Pundit * by Jim Hᴏft

Rep.

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[Robin]

Then what files does Bondi claim to have dozens and dozens of and the FBI pouring over them?
Robin

 

[Saltwater60]

Is this winning or losing? Not a fan at all and I’m sure it won’t impact me or anyone I know.

Trump’s tax hike on millionaires is back on the table—but experts say it won't make a dent in the ultra-rich | Fortune

The richest sliver of Americans now own a record share of the wealth, and tweaking income taxes is unlikely to change that.

fortune.com

 

[tirwin1]

Is this winning or losing? Not a fan at all and I’m sure it won’t impact me or anyone I know.

Trump’s tax hike on millionaires is back on the table—but experts say it won't make a dent in the ultra-rich | Fortune

The richest sliver of Americans now own a record share of the wealth, and tweaking income taxes is unlikely to change that.

fortune.com

Not sure I agree with it but it does silence all those talking points about "tax cuts for the rich" and "trump only cares about billionaires". I think it's definitely a political play.

 

[Saltwater60]

Not sure I agree with it but it does silence all those talking points about "tax cuts for the rich" and "trump only cares about billionaires". I think it's definitely a political play.

Agreed but IMO the way to increase tax revenue is to increase business revenues. Change policy and regulations to make it cheaper or easier to produce in the USA. Hrs doing some of that but this is/was a liberal talking point and a reason they were against his tax cuts. He’s essentially validating their concerns. I’m guessing this is his way of getting his spending bill passed. I still don’t like it.