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spat said:
But, proof of the existence of the labs is another matter entirely.
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And that is the linchpin. Until such proof is provided I am deferring to this unequivocal statement on the matter:

www.state.gov

The Kremlin’s Allegations of Chemical and Biological Weapons Laboratories in Ukraine - United States Department of State

The Kremlin is intentionally spreading outright lies that the United States and Ukraine are conducting chemical and biological weapons activities in Ukraine. We have also seen PRC officials echo these conspiracy theories. This Russian disinformation is total nonsense and not the first time...
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"She simply did not answer the question."

If that's all it takes for you to believe then no one can help you.
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If her not saying yes we have bioweapons is all it takes for you to believe that she said yes they have bioweapons no one can help you.

I will remind the audience how our iraq invasion went, justified largely on a fictitious weapons program. At least in that case they had some pictures of trucks and a silly little vial of who knows what to help the presentation.
 
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Starting to think Its all over for the Russians. 2nd week with air superiority, and they cant encircle Kiev. Im sure they can drag it out , but they are hemorrhaging, men and equipment. The capture of the airport(s) near Kiev was critical in their plans . Plan B isnt working, No major adjustments made. They're losing. The map doesnt lie, they are moving at a snails pace and bleeding heavy
 
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holdover said:
Starting to think Its all over for the Russians. 2nd week with air superiority, and they cant encircle Kiev. Im sure they can drag it out , but they are hemorrhaging, men and equipment. The capture of the airport(s) near Kiev was critical in their plans . Plan B isnt working, No major adjustments made. They're losing. The map doesnt lie, they are moving at a snails pace and bleeding heavy
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Says who?
 
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holdover said:
Starting to think Its all over for the Russians. 2nd week with air superiority, and they cant encircle Kiev. Im sure they can drag it out , but they are hemorrhaging, men and equipment. The capture of the airport(s) near Kiev was critical in their plans . Plan B isnt working, No major adjustments made. They're losing. The map doesnt lie, they are moving at a snails pace and bleeding heavy
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Next step: Heavy bombers.

"Scorched earth" has been a Russian strategy in the past. Right?
 
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holdover said:
Starting to think Its all over for the Russians. 2nd week with air superiority, and they cant encircle Kiev. Im sure they can drag it out , but they are hemorrhaging, men and equipment. The capture of the airport(s) near Kiev was critical in their plans . Plan B isnt working, No major adjustments made. They're losing. The map doesnt lie, they are moving at a snails pace and bleeding heavy
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They are not storming the cities. They are encircling them, cutting off supplies and opening up humanitarian corridors.
 
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My opinion. I watch the live maps everyday. If those are accurate. The Russians have been moving less than I mile a day for a week with air superiority. I think that sucks , myself. I see no adaptation of tactics to help neutralize the effectiveness of the antitank fire.

Look how bunched up they are . Why the fuck are they bunching up? It hurts to watch.



have they trained on what do during an indirect attack? Run away?

The map has virtually remained unchanged for the week ,

The way I see it, they stalled. and unless they can surround Kiev soon , they are going to start falling apart.
 
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holdover said:
My opinion. I watch the live maps everyday. If those are accurate. The Russians have been moving less than I mile a day for a week with air superiority. I think that sucks , myself. I see no adaptation of tactics to help neutralize the effectiveness of the antitank fire.

Look how bunched up they are . Why the fuck are they bunching up? It hurts to watch.



have they trained on what do during an indirect attack? Run away?

The map has virtually remained unchanged for the week ,

The way I see it, they stalled. and unless they can surround Kiev soon , they are going to start falling apart.
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Either we never had anything to fear from Russia or this isn't their main force.
 
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Now, something incredibly important we need to cover as I see others reaching out for clarification surrounding the difference between “Biological Laboratory” and “Biological Research Facility”.

Let me make this abundantly clear. THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME FUCKING THING!

Nuland and the deep state rats are playing semantics with you and utilizing euphemisms to make their biolab activity appear less diabolical and trying to discourage us from proceeding.

In order to conduct research on biological pathogens, you need a laboratory to house the pathogens. Every single research facility housing Biological material, is a laboratory. The harmful pathogens are on site. The only thing preventing that pathogen from being used for research and used as a weapon, is the INTENT of those in control of the laboratory.

At ANY MOMENT they could release these pathogens. That is the moment it becomes a bioweapon. When the user decides to use it as a weapon. Just like a carrot is not a weapon, until I decide to stab you in the eye ball with it. Now it’s a weapon.

Does it make sense? These “research facilities” are housing the most harmful and deadly pathogens known to man that at any moment can be released. We are also genetically modifying and altering these pathogens to target specific genome sequences, meaning targeting specific races and nationalities with specific DNA sequences.

Do not let them fool you with their wordage. Laboratory and Research Facility are the exact same thing. They are attempting to deceive you. Don’t let them.
 
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Poland invades Ukraine on behalf of Russians...... Kidding, but what a statesman, what a way to fracture alliances
 
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Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby said, "We are not developing biological or chemical weapons inside Ukraine. This is textbook Russian propaganda."

Keep in mind this is the same Pentagon Press Secretary John Kirby that said no kids were killed in the Afghan drone strike last year. He said they were terrorists.

Well, he lied AGAIN. US has funded Ukraine lab pathogen and bio weapon research since 2005.

BTW, if the US funded bio labs in Ukraine are just for "research" and not weapons, why are they so concerned about them falling into Russian hands?
 
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UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. Security Council scheduled a meeting Friday at Russia’s request to discuss what Moscow claims are “the military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine,” allegations vehemently denied by the Biden administration.


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UN council to meet on Russian claim of US labs in Ukraine

The U.N. Security Council will meet Friday at Russia’s request to discuss what Moscow claims are “the military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine.”
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One of the tasks of the United States and its allies is the creation of bioagents capable of selectively affecting various ethnic groups of the population. Defense Department Statement on US Biological Activities in Ukraine:

– laboratories in Kyiv, Kharkov and Odessa participated in the UP-4 project, designed for the period up to 2020;

- its goal is to study the possibility of the spread of especially dangerous and lethal infections through 145 species of migratory birds, including those whose routes pass through Russia;

- it also became known about the R-781 project, where bats are considered as carriers of bacterial and viral pathogens (coronaviruses and plague);

- all high-risk studies are carried out under the direct supervision of specialists from the United States;

- documents confirm research funding by the Pentagon;

- Evidence of continuation of completed biological projects aimed at studying the causative agents of anthrax and African swine fever was discovered


MOSCOW, March 10. /TASS/. One of the documents obtained by the Russian Armed Forces confirms that all high-risk studies in Ukrainian biological laboratories were conducted under the guidance of specialists from the US, Chief of Russia’s radiation, chemical and biological protection force, Igor Kirillov said on Thursday.

"One of the documents confirms that all high-risk studies are conducted under the direction of specialists from the US," Kirillov noted.

According to him, "[the materials] clearly refute the US statement that only Ukrainian scientists work in the Pentagon biolabs in Ukraine without the intervention of the US biologists," Kirillov pointed out.

Kirillov underscored that the accounting documents confirm the fact that the US Department of Defense paid money for participating in studies directly without the involvement of intermediaries.
 
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holdover said:
UNITED NATIONS (AP) — The U.N. Security Council scheduled a meeting Friday at Russia’s request to discuss what Moscow claims are “the military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine,” allegations vehemently denied by the Biden administration.


apnews.com

UN council to meet on Russian claim of US labs in Ukraine

The U.N. Security Council will meet Friday at Russia’s request to discuss what Moscow claims are “the military biological activities of the U.S. on the territory of Ukraine.”
apnews.com apnews.com

One of the tasks of the United States and its allies is the creation of bioagents capable of selectively affecting various ethnic groups of the population. Defense Department Statement on US Biological Activities in Ukraine:

– laboratories in Kyiv, Kharkov and Odessa participated in the UP-4 project, designed for the period up to 2020;

- its goal is to study the possibility of the spread of especially dangerous and lethal infections through 145 species of migratory birds, including those whose routes pass through Russia;

- it also became known about the R-781 project, where bats are considered as carriers of bacterial and viral pathogens (coronaviruses and plague);

- all high-risk studies are carried out under the direct supervision of specialists from the United States;

- documents confirm research funding by the Pentagon;

- Evidence of continuation of completed biological projects aimed at studying the causative agents of anthrax and African swine fever was discovered
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Proverbial cat out of the bag.
 
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