Thordsen FRS Gen III Featureless Stock

[Defilade]

Well I guess this is a much better "looking" alternative. Anyone try one yet? I might consider a build.



FRS-15 Gen III Stock Kit - FRS-15 Gen III Rifle Stock | Thordsen Customs

 

[GOYABEAN]

Looks a lot better but after the hospital Shooting

 

[freddy]

@Willjr75 is not concerned with looks so no sale!

 

[freddy]

 

[Marine Cpl]

I think it looks uglier and would have extra weight for no reason.

 

[freddy]

I think it looks uglier and would have extra weight for no reason.

AH HA!!! Looks matter!!!

 

[Marine Cpl]

AH HA!!! Looks matter!!!

Not if it affects function.

 

[Clipazine]

 

[Blimey]

It looks good, but here is the thing: At what point does it become a thumb hole stock? Because that gap is very small. "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what, I ask, is a hole?"

If the gap is 1/64" is that a hole? What if it's not a hole now, but if it rests on my shoulder (or a cop investigating) and I press down and now the buffer tube hits the stock, it's definitely a hole then, right?

 

[dsdmmat]

It looks good, but here is the thing: At what point does it become a thumb hole stock? Because that gap is very small. "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what, I ask, is a hole?"

If the gap is 1/64" is that a hole? What if it's not a hole now, but if it rests on my shoulder (or a cop investigating) and I press down and now the buffer tube hits the stock, it's definitely a hole then, right?

Two different pieces. Buffer tube and stock. Therefore it is not a thumbhole stock.

 

[Mosinitis]

What looks like adjustable length of pull (removable spacers) is a nice feature. Wrong ergonomics of the trigger hand is still there.

 

[DoD1776]

Our Mini 30 looks like this

 

[Clipazine]

"(mini-14) is the worlds most expensive plinking rifle"....-BIll Ruger

 

[gun_slinger_boy]

Lol. Compliant by a hair. Seeing all these monstrosities I just realized something. Thordsen is loving these laws and states like NY and CA.

 

[Defilade]

It's looks much better, Doesn't look like a kickstand. The only thing I would have to get used to is the Glock grip angle. Geezs!

 

[Deplorable Me]

It looks good, but here is the thing: At what point does it become a thumb hole stock? Because that gap is very small. "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what, I ask, is a hole?"

If the gap is 1/64" is that a hole? What if it's not a hole now, but if it rests on my shoulder (or a cop investigating) and I press down and now the buffer tube hits the stock, it's definitely a hole then, right?

Should name it after our gubbiner and call it an asshole stock.

 

[Podmonkey]

It looks good, but here is the thing: At what point does it become a thumb hole stock? Because that gap is very small. "Ladies and gentlemen of the jury, what, I ask, is a hole?"

If the gap is 1/64" is that a hole? What if it's not a hole now, but if it rests on my shoulder (or a cop investigating) and I press down and now the buffer tube hits the stock, it's definitely a hole then, right?

Two different pieces. Buffer tube and stock. Therefore it is not a thumbhole stock.

Someone should take further advantage of this loophole to produce a stock with a much steeper grip angle that is also further forward to bring the controls back to thumb's reach.

 

[Marine Cpl]

I don't see how anyone could think this looks better than the previous version.

 

[WileyX585]

Ewwwwwwwwww

 

[Podmonkey]

I don't see how anyone could think this looks better than the previous version.

Its a little more coventional looking I suppose.

 

[Blimey]

Two different pieces. Buffer tube and stock. Therefore it is not a thumbhole stock.

Is there legal precedence for this or an ATF opinion or something? If so, applause to thordsen, but if not it's just too much a thumbhole stock for me.

I think it's just a matter of time before New York bans variants of the AR15 to be honest. Eventually maybe the thordsens can be grand-fathered in at that point, ugh

 

[stuck in ny]

I'd never buy from that commi company. Ruger pushed for "feature" laws and would have been pro-snake act, were he still alive.

 

[stuck in ny]

Our Mini 30 looks like this

I still don't see why the grip angle is so shallow on the FRS, compared to actual old school standard rifle stocks, PPSh, G43, etc.

 

[Defilade]

Looks like a Magpul PRS. Put a check riser that wraps around the buffer tube and bingo!

 

[Podmonkey]

Looks like a Magpul PRS. Put a check riser that wraps around the buffer tube and bingo!

That probably would cross over into being a thumb hole stock. Or looking enough like one to cause you problems anyway.

 

[Mosinitis]

AR's were designed with recoil vector along the bore-line. Having it few inches below will increase muzzle jump. I am surprised no one brought it up. This is a bigger factor than the looks. Not a desirable feature for accuracy at longer ranges.

 

[Bcs guy]

Isn't this very similar to what PY Tactical originally came up with?

 

[Exonautic]

Lol. Compliant by a hair. Seeing all these monstrosities I just realized something. Thordsen is loving these laws and states like NY and CA.

Took ya that long. As far as it being a thumbhole. Pretty sure you would be fine with this.

 

[NYGuns]

Thanks for sharing, glad to see they are still making new stocks for us compliant states.

 

[Blimey]

AR's were designed with recoil vector along the bore-line. Having it few inches below will increase muzzle jump. I am surprised no one brought it up. This is a bigger factor than the looks. Not a desirable feature for accuracy at longer ranges.

It's early for me, but I think that as long as the stock is sufficiently stiff it is still against the bore line. I think you could have a stock that goes down 25" with a massive U shape and the u doesn't impact where the felt recoil is if it's stiff and not giving. The main issue with this design is you end up getting the recoil through the tab on the lower, but it seems strong enough.

I really do like the look of this over the current thordsen, but I just think it's really getting desperate with compliance. What if you build a stock that is thumbhole from the get-go, all one piece. It's built out of strong carbon fiber and you then cut a single sliver down the middle with a saw. Can you pretend it's no longer a hole? Unless there is precedence to say a thumbhole isn't if it's two parts like this one is.