Traveler From Texas to Maine Had Unregistered Handguns in Kent

[4excal]

Well, might as well chime in to this,one being it's my LGS.

Dickish to do by owner, yes.
Law broken by woman who wasn't lawfully allowed to carry in NY, yes.
Stopping me from going to the damn best LGS around that has everything always and at rock bottom prices, nope.
Sue me

 

[4excal]

Come on what better excuse to have @Gunner57 bring out the ring girls

And the giantass bags of popcorn apparently..

 

[Eddie Gunks]

damn best LGS around that has everything always and at rock bottom prices

I have been yhere in the past. Never saw "rock bottom prices".....

 

[4excal]

BTW @Darth is at 166

 

[Celt]

Just playing devil's advocate here...any chance Precision Armory was worried about some kind of a NYS "sting operation" (if they even exist) and that's why they acted the way they did?

Thats where my initial thought was. And before grabbing my torch and pitchfork I wanted to know a little more (even if it looks real bad for them).

 

[Darth]

BTW @Darth is at 166

I'm still NITROX high!

 

[FCG LLC]

And this is exactly what this woman was trying to do..

Cyber space is hard, but I don't go life walking on eggshells, as anyone who knows me would attest.

So...what exactly would you like me to do? Why are people so argumentative here? 1075tech asked a question - expressing ignorance. I answered to the best of my knowledge, ability and experience, having fostered gun turn-ins EXACTLY as he described, and as I described, when people have approached me wanting to turn in handguns and long guns. I was never arrested in any of those instances.

If you can't see the difference between what she did, and what 1075tech asks, SAY SO, and I will explain to you - unless you just like to argue (I don't).

The best thing for anyone who has seen this thread, who is upset at the action Precision Armory took, is to

• pick up the phone and call them, or
  
• send them and email, or facebook message / tweet

and ask them if it is store policy, ignorance, or if the lady threw off a really bad vibe that drove.

None of us was there. Maybe she was raising flags like crazy, maybe the gun store employee was on the rag, maybe the cop saw something else that gave him a reasonable suspicion or probable cause that criminal activity was indeed underfoot (outside of the attempt to sell the handgun). I don't know - I was not there.

Yes, if I was a cop, and that was my call, and I had the power - absent any other bullfuckery I would cut her loose and send her on her way. A few LEOs have chimed in to express how tied their hands are once they respond to that call.

Absolutely, the buying and selling of guns should be no different than beer or car seats or a movie ticket - where there is a commonality between all the states, at the lowest possible denominator, but that is not the song the orchestra is playing while the Titanic sinks.


And no, I am not afraid to say something was a bit screwy with that lady - clearly she is used to FREEDOM. Needing to sell guns to buy gas, in NY of all places tells me she might be a sufferer of poor planning. The world does not revolve around NY, so I don't expect EVERYONE to know what our shitty laws are, but FFS, you already can't "transfer" a handgun outside of the state where you are domiciled. Had she stopped in PA (assumption that she came up that way as she was right off I-84) we would be having a heated argument about something else.

 

[4excal]

I have been yhere in the past. Never saw "rock bottom prices".....

To me 11.99$ for 50 count remington 9mm is good. And since the BS .22 game, I'm happy with 39.99$ for 500 Aguila HV. To me it's good, and right down the road.

 

[garyv350]

How about this....she walks in with an Smith and Wesson bodyguard, looks like a strung out drug addict, wants to sell it for $40.00 for gas money to get to Maine. And was from Texas.

What do you do?

Cyber space is hard, but I don't go life walking on eggshells, as anyone who knows me would attest.

So...what exactly would you like me to do? Why are people so argumentative here? 1075tech asked a question - expressing ignorance. I answered to the best of my knowledge, ability and experience, having fostered gun turn-ins EXACTLY as he described, and as I described, when people have approached me wanting to turn in handguns and long guns. I was never arrested in any of those instances.

If you can't see the difference between what she did, and what 1075tech asks, SAY SO, and I will explain to you - unless you just like to argue (I don't).

The best thing for anyone who has seen this thread, who is upset at the action Precision Armory took, is to

• pick up the phone and call them, or
  
• send them and email, or facebook message / tweet

and ask them if it is store policy, ignorance, or if the lady threw off a really bad vibe that drove.

None of us was there. Maybe she was raising flags like crazy, maybe the gun store employee was on the rag, maybe the cop saw something else that gave him a reasonable suspicion or probable cause that criminal activity was indeed underfoot (outside of the attempt to sell the handgun). I don't know - I was not there.

Yes, if I was a cop, and that was my call, and I had the power - absent any other bullfuckery I would cut her loose and send her on her way. A few LEOs have chimed in to express how tied their hands are once they respond to that call.

Absolutely, the buying and selling of guns should be no different than beer or car seats or a movie ticket - where there is a commonality between all the states, at the lowest possible denominator, but that is not the song the orchestra is playing while the Titanic sinks.


And no, I am not afraid to say something was a bit screwy with that lady - clearly she is used to FREEDOM. Needing to sell guns to buy gas, in NY of all places tells me she might be a sufferer of poor planning. The world does not revolve around NY, so I don't expect EVERYONE to know what our shitty laws are, but FFS, you already can't "transfer" a handgun outside of the state where you are domiciled. Had she stopped in PA (assumption that she came up that way as she was right off I-84) we would be having a heated argument about something else.

So what I said is what happened.....what do you do?

 

[kev74]

Well, might as well chime in to this,one being it's my LGS.

Dickish to do by owner, yes.
Law broken by woman who wasn't lawfully allowed to carry in NY, yes.
Stopping me from going to the damn best LGS around that has everything always and at rock bottom prices, nope.
Sue me

I see you accidentally wrote "rock bottom prices" instead of "top dollar prices".

I was willing to stop in there once in a while and look around even after they were selling bricks of .22 for over $100 a piece. But ratting out a client, who didn't try to cause them harm, when they were under no obligation to... I will never set foot in Precision Armory again.

If Precision Armory was struck by lightning and burnt to the ground tonight, I'd be there tomorrow to piss on the ashes.

 

[4excal]

I see you accidentally wrote "rock bottom prices" instead of "top dollar prices".

I was willing to stop in there once in a while and look around after they were selling bricks of .22 for over $100 a piece. But ratting out a client, who didn't try to cause them harm, when they were under no obligation to... I will never set foot in Precision Armory again.

If Precision Armory was struck by lightning and burnt to the ground tonight, I'd be there tomorrow to piss on the ashes.

Each to his own though my man. As my response to BG, those prices are A-OK for me lol.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

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but FFS, you already can't "transfer" a handgun outside of the state where you are domiciled. .

Not really what happened. You are not "transferring" when you sell to an ffl.

An ffl can buy a handgun in any state in the union. In person. In his resident state or outside of his resident state.

I am an ffl. I can go to another state and buy a handgun from an individual or a dealer. An individual can sell to any ffl in any state (maybe not in ny in putnam).

 

[FCG LLC]

Not really what happened. You are not "transferring" when you sell to an ffl.

An ffl can buy a handgun in any state in the union. In person. In his resident state or outside of his resident state.

I am an ffl. I can go to another state and buy a handgun from an individual or a dealer. An individual can sell to any ffl in any state (maybe not in ny in putnam).

I specifically said transfer because non licensees cannot "sell" a gun outside of their home state, you can sell a gun in your home state, and you can "transfer" a gun from your home state.
Yup, I did not say she attempted to transfer a gun, I said you can't even do that under the circumstances she was in.

 

[NirvanaFan]

To me 11.99$ for 50 count remington 9mm is good. And since the BS .22 game, I'm happy with 39.99$ for 500 Aguila HV. To me it's good, and right down the road.

I'd call those decent prices. They're not rock bottom though. You can pick up boxes of Remington 9mm for less than $10 on sale quite frequently.

 

[FCG LLC]

So what I said is what happened.....what do you do?

...
How about this....she walks in with an Smith and Wesson bodyguard, looks like a strung out drug addict, wants to sell it for $40.00 for gas money to get to Maine. And was from Texas.

What do you do?

As an FFL in NY? Nothing except tell her neither federal nor state law allows this. IF I am feeling benevolent, I might call down to the nearest gas station and have them fill her tank.


What do you do? I am neither an FFL nor a police officer.

 

[4excal]

I'd call those decent prices. They're not rock bottom though. You can pick up boxes of Remington 9mm for less than $10 on sale quite frequently.

I hear that, but these are every day prices no matter when. That's fine for me.

 

[Eddie Gunks]

I specifically said transfer because non licensees cannot "sell" a gun outside of their home state, you can sell a gun in your home state, and you can "transfer" a gun from your home state.
Yup, I did not say she attempted to transfer a gun, I said you can't even do that under the circumstances she was in.

She can go to another state and sell a rifle or handgun to an ffl.

She can not go to another state and sell a rifle or handgun to another individual (non ffl).

 

[GOPerfect]

Same with the cops, but a gun dealer can't ruin lives on a whim.

Apparently they did and can!

 

[fartgamer]

I see you accidentally wrote "rock bottom prices" instead of "top dollar prices".

I was willing to stop in there once in a while and look around even after they were selling bricks of .22 for over $100 a piece. But ratting out a client, who didn't try to cause them harm, when they were under no obligation to... I will never set foot in Precision Armory again.

If Precision Armory was struck by lightning and burnt to the ground tonight, I'd be there tomorrow to piss on the ashes.

Rock bottom NOT when Eddie ripped off people during the 22 shortage. Selling those buckets of crappy 22 Rems for ridiculous prices. Maybe now he feels remorseful. F' him.

I can order 9's from TSUSA and have them delivered to my door, no tax, instead of darkening his door, for less than what he charges.

 

[kev74]

Rock bottom NOT when Eddie ripped off people during the 22 shortage. Selling those buckets of crappy 22 Rems for ridiculous prices. Maybe now he feels remorseful. F' him.

I can order 9's from TSUSA and have them delivered to my door, no tax, instead of darkening his door, for less than what he charges.

He was selling those Remington Bucket O Bullets for over $200 when Dick's had them for $75. And again, Dick's never ratted a client out to the cops for no good reason.

 

[Acer-m14]

after 6 pages ... i seen nothing like this asked .. ...

did she have a Valid Texas Permit ?? .. if yes then i don't think she was giving off bad vibes or what ever ... maybe just worried and upset
that she was broke and needed to get to Maine ..

now that she is hosed up because of NY's Laws what do we do for her beside argue on her fault / FFL fault / LEO Fault ..

can the Judge dismiss it and send her on her way ??

or will she have to bow to FUAC and kiss his feet ..

Can we back her up for trial to set president that NY gun laws SUCK!!! .. ???

??????

 

[4excal]

Town of Kent..Meh. If she had Judge Reitz she'd already be in Maine and he would have given her some gas money and a cell phone, dudes so great lol.

 

[NirvanaFan]

did she have a Valid Texas Permit ?? .. if yes then i don't think she was giving off bad vibes or what ever ... maybe just worried and upset
that she was broke and needed to get to Maine ..

Permit for what? You don't need a permit to own a handgun in Texas or Maine. She was perfectly legal to possess the pistols in both her starting and ending points.

now that she is hosed up because of NY's Laws what do we do for her beside argue on her fault / FFL fault / LEO Fault ..

can the Judge dismiss it and send her on her way ??

or will she have to bow to FUAC and kiss his feet ..

Can we back her up for trial to set president that NY gun laws SUCK!!! .. ???

??????

I'll bet this gets plea bargained down and she takes a deal.

 

[4excal]

Permit for what? You don't need a permit to own a handgun in Texas or Maine. She was perfectly legal to possess the pistols in both her starting and ending points.



I'll bet this gets plea bargained down and she takes a deal.

She went wrong when she detoured though..

 

[fartgamer]

He was selling those Remington Bucket O Bullets for over $200 when Dick's had them for $75. And again, Dick's never ratted a client out to the cops for no good reason.

Remington 9's @ Targetsports are $10.99 shipped per 50 by the case, sure beats $11.99 + tax (8.25%)everyday of the week.
That's close to $40 saved by the case.

 

[NirvanaFan]

She went wrong when she detoured though..

How exactly could she get from Maine to Texas in a car without going through NY?

 

[Phazer]

Permit for what? You don't need a permit to own a handgun in Texas or Maine. She was perfectly legal to possess the pistols in both her starting and ending points.

Excellent point.

Speak to firearms owners who live outside of the nutty Northeast or the Loony Left Coast. Tell that you need a permit just to own a pistol. You'll get a quizzical look in response. In most of those states, the only time a permit is required is for concealed carry. And even that permit is easily obtainable with simple proof of training (usually) and fingerprinting. In those states, you can purchase a pistol just as we purchase long guns - with a valid driver's license and a NICS check.

Most of the country's firearms owners do not, and cannot, understand the Leftist Progressive limitations on firearms our state.

 

[4excal]

Remington 9's @ Targetsports are $10.99 shipped per 50 by the case, sure beats $11.99 + tax (8.25%)everyday of the week.
That's close to $40 saved by the case.

Trick word there is "by the case" not everyone has couple hundred dollars In their pockets and then wait for 2 weeks to ship to you to save a dollar. I'm looking to pay $12 a box and go shooting 20 minutes later and almost most times I don't pay the tax they just lets me go for $12 cause I'm buying frequently. Again for me it's worth it five minutes away and then I'm shooting, and price per round is competitive. Yeah I can wait two weeks but I'm over target sports as of two years ago I've been over them..

 

[NirvanaFan]

Trick word there is "by the case" not everyone has couple hundred dollars In their pockets and then wait for 2 weeks to ship to you to save a dollar.

Aguila brass cased is even cheaper at $10/50. This works fine in my M&P. You can pick up a case for $200 with free shipping. Split it with a buddy, and you're down to $100 for 500 rounds. You end up saving yourself almost $30 after tax.

 

[fartgamer]

Yes, I'm rich lol and buy by the $ 200 case. If I get the itch to go shooting I go to my stash and head straight to the range.