Troops Sent to Help Evacuate US Embassy in Afghanistan; Joe Biden's Words Come Back to Haunt Him

[redtail]

On their own, damn.

The State Department on Tuesday told American citizens and others looking to get out of Afghanistan that they should "shelter in place" until they are given further instruction by the U.S. Embassy amid a fragile security situation in the Afghan capital.

 

[redtail]

Chocolate chocolate chip

 

[prambo]

Dan Bongino questioned why the Biden administration surrendered Bagram Air Base, a heavily fortified base with a large runway, outside of city limits, BEFORE evacuating the embassy and American civilians. He said trying to fortify Kabul's airport was nearly impossible. Especially, since it is in a large city.

American citizens, employees, and contractors should (apparently) have made their way to Bagram over several weeks while American military forces controlled the area and could still project air power to force Taliban assets to keep their heads down until our people were out of harm's way.

Who the heck really planned and executed our abysmal evacuation?

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I doubt .MIL as presently constituted or, indeed, Fed.GOV in general, can maintain a proper stock of the required LGBTQWERTY reading material, high heels, or male tampons.

This clusterfuck goes well beyond leaving some allies behind (Vietnam) or abandoning an Embassy (Libya), and both of those were completely reprehensible acts of cowardice by self-serving cock-eaters. Many of the slime responsible still consume oxygen - that alone is a crime.

Now "they" have abandoned civilians - who knows who they are?

When you abandon your countrymen, you have already abandoned the tenets of your country and, thus, your country, as it were.

I loathe these self-righteous bottom feeders.

But they don't worry one little bit - their fifth column remoras in Big Media and Big Tech will shake-n-bake the news cycle and most of the NPCs will continue to be oblivious.

 

[Phazer]

On their own, damn.

The State Department on Tuesday told American citizens and others looking to get out of Afghanistan that they should "shelter in place" until they are given further instruction by the U.S. Embassy amid a fragile security situation in the Afghan capital.

Yup...if by "fragile" they mean that Taliban fighters are going door-to-door and executing people who worked with the United States.

 

[Phazer]

'Up to 40,000 Americans are still stranded' in Afghanistan

There are still as many as 40,000 Americans stranded in Afghanistan waiting to be put on US military evacuation flights but there was no sign of the planes at Kabul Airport on Tuesday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[fresch]

"At this point, what does it matter?"
Hillary rotten Clinton.

 

[tirwin1]

'Up to 40,000 Americans are still stranded' in Afghanistan

There are still as many as 40,000 Americans stranded in Afghanistan waiting to be put on US military evacuation flights but there was no sign of the planes at Kabul Airport on Tuesday.

www.dailymail.co.uk

I am trying to find out just who these people are. From the article the only description is:

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said on Tuesday that there were at least 11,000, including American journalists, translators, contractors, aid workers, NGO and government workers.

I guess they all must have believed the bullshit that biden was spewing about the government surviving well after the withdrawal of US troops. Although to be honest I don't see how all 11,000 could have believed that, especially anyone that had any sense of the country.

I've never worked overseas, but I think I would have a general rule that if our military was bugging out of a 3rd world country I would be certain to get the hell out well in advance of the departure date. WTF were all these people thinking?

 

[Uninformed and Compliant]

 

[Phazer]

I've never worked overseas, but I think I would have a general rule that if our military was bugging out of a 3rd world country I would be certain to get the hell out well in advance of the departure date. WTF were all these people thinking?

It appears that the U.S. withdrawal was so fast, and so unexpected, that the Afghan government and the Afghan National Army did not even know that the American forces were going to just disappear overnight.

 

[Phazer]

I guess they all must have believed the bullshit that biden was spewing about the government surviving well after the withdrawal of US troops. Although to be honest I don't see how all 11,000 could have believed that, especially anyone that had any sense of the country.

Quite probably. This is where the ramblings of a demented old fool are going to result in many American civilian deaths.

 

[redtail]

Leave a msg, maybe we'll call.

 

[prambo]

I am trying to find out just who these people are. From the article the only description is:

White House Press Secretary Jen Psaki said on Tuesday that there were at least 11,000, including American journalists, translators, contractors, aid workers, NGO and government workers.

I guess they all must have believed the bullshit that biden was spewing about the government surviving well after the withdrawal of US troops. Although to be honest I don't see how all 11,000 could have believed that, especially anyone that had any sense of the country.

I've never worked overseas, but I think I would have a general rule that if our military was bugging out of a 3rd world country I would be certain to get the hell out well in advance of the departure date. WTF were all these people thinking?

It appears that the U.S. withdrawal was so fast, and so unexpected, that the Afghan government and the Afghan National Army did not even know that the American forces were going to just disappear overnight.

From a number of years in Kenya and a short time in Ethiopia, once you're out of the major cities, you are on your own which, in Kenya, was why I was in the bush.

However, neither was a nation invaded by a foreign power (right or wrong), and anyone working for an NGO, a feel-good organization or, indeed, any PMC should have their ears to the ground.

I was 5 years out of Kenya when the embassy in Nairobi was bombed. Lost a couple of acquaintances and my then BIL was cut up really bad by flying glass. He worked a few blocks away at Kenya Railways.

Nobody saw that coming. My then wife (African) and I were dumbstruck.

 

[redtail]

Dancing TB

 

[Blimey]

On their own, damn.

The State Department on Tuesday told American citizens and others looking to get out of Afghanistan that they should "shelter in place" until they are given further instruction by the U.S. Embassy amid a fragile security situation in the Afghan capital.

Shelter in place now instead of maybe, possibly using the recent confusion to move around. How hard it is to move around now will probably be amplified once the confusion dies down and taliban has a firmer grip on kabul.

I don't agree with all of this but he mentions taiwan: https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/strange-days-ahead/

Things have consequences. If things get hot with taiwan they must know we won't have their back. What if russia continues its slow annexation campaign it's been on (georgia, ukraine)? USA can't be relied on to help, so don't ask.

 

[Blimey]

I've never worked overseas, but I think I would have a general rule that if our military was bugging out of a 3rd world country I would be certain to get the hell out well in advance of the departure date. WTF were all these people thinking?

It was evidently no secret that most of the afghan army were craven incompetents with a history of running away. At the very latest as the taliban started eating the country up after the US' leave earlier this summer I would have made it my life's goal to get the heck out of that place.

 

[redtail]

Not only are they leaving American citizens in danger but are prioritizing the mass evac of indigenous people over them.

More future democrat voters, more Islamization of the US and Europe. Those are taking precedence over getting our people home safe.

 

[Phazer]

And you thought the 1979 Iranian hostage crisis was a big deal? Watch as we see the massive Afghanistan hostage crisis of 2021 develop.

 

[redtail]

Guy saying that UK's 2 PARA and associated PMCs are running patrols into Kabul to get UK/Irish/Afghan people out, and their CO got into a fight with the 82nd's CO on the ground about it. Says that CENTCOM told them not to leave the airport and that the Brits going to get people endangers the 'deal' with the Taliban the US has.

2 PARA is concerned that the US will just bail and leave them there.

 

[Phazer]

Say hello to the new boss. Same as the old boss.

Resurgent Taliban pledges to honor ‘women’s rights’ in charm offensive

Taliban spokesman Zabihullah Mujahid held a news conference to say that the insurgents would honor women’s rights, within highly restrictive Sharia law.

nypost.com

 

[Phazer]

Reporter who covered Saigon says Afghanistan fall like Vietnam ‘at warp speed’

Jim Laurie, who witnessed the fall of Saigon as a journalist in 1975, believes Afghanistan’s collapse is at a much quicker pace than the events in Vietnam.

nypost.com

 

[Robin]

I'd like to know who gave the order to abandon Bagram Airfield, when and why.
This is already a fiasco of an epic proportion, with the potential to be an unimaginable deadly disaster that could escalate very fast.
God be with those Americans still there, I have little faith in those fools running this shit show.
Robin

 

[Phazer]

I'd like to know who gave the order to abandon Bagram Airfield, when and why.
This is already a fiasco of an epic proportion, with the potential to be an unimaginable deadly disaster that could escalate very fast.
God be with those Americans still there, I have little faith in those fools running this shit show.
Robin

So, is this how the end of Vietnam felt back here in the states in 1975? (Being in nursery school myself at the time, I wasn't paying attention to world news.)

Why can't we have military leaders who perform with the level of professionalism that we expect of our service members in the field?

 

[Phazer]

I'd like to know who gave the order to abandon Bagram Airfield, when and why.
This is already a fiasco of an epic proportion, with the potential to be an unimaginable deadly disaster that could escalate very fast.
God be with those Americans still there, I have little faith in those fools running this shit show.
Robin

Looks like this was a slow-motion train wreck.

I didn't know that the U.S. military had abandoned Bagram Air Base back in July 2021. No wonder the Taliban made major advances after that time. Our ability to project air power was surrendered.

Who is running this shit show?

Bagram Airfield looted as US forces slip away in the night from Afghan base

American forces left Afghanistan’s Bagram Airfield over the weekend without notifying the new commander from the Kabul government — giving looters time to swipe anything that was not bo…

nypost.com

“We (heard) some rumor that the Americans had left Bagram … and finally by 7 o’clock in the morning, we understood that it was confirmed that they had already left Bagram,” said new base commander Gen. Mir Asadullah Kohistani.​

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“In one night, they [the Americans] lost all the good will of 20 years by leaving the way they did, in the night, without telling the Afghan soldiers who were outside patrolling the area,” one Afghan soldier, who identified himself only as Naematullah, told the Associated Press.​

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“At first we thought maybe they were Taliban,” another soldier, a 10-year veteran named Abdul Raouf, said of the looters. Raouf went on to claim American forces called from the international airport in Kabul — an hour’s drive south of Bagram — to inform their Afghan counterparts that they had left the base.​

 

[livingston]

 

[Phazer]

Freedom Alliance Expresses Profound Gratitude to Veterans of Afghanistan - Freedom Alliance

Dulles, Virginia -- Freedom Alliance President Tom Kilgannon issued the following statement:

freedomalliance.org

Freedom Alliance Expresses Profound Gratitude to Veterans of Afghanistan

August 16, 2021

Dulles, Virginia — Freedom Alliance President Tom Kilgannon issued the following statement:

“Today, Freedom Alliance extends our profound gratitude and expresses our deepest admiration to our Soldiers, Sailors, Airmen, Marines, and Guardsmen who fought and sacrificed in Afghanistan, as well as Iraq. We continue to grieve for the families who lost a loved one in the noble effort to hold accountable the terrorists who declared war on our nation 20 years ago.

“The events that are currently taking place in Afghanistan are sad and unfortunate, to put it mildly, but the ignominy of this exit belongs to others.

“You volunteered to face an evil enemy, did your duty, executed your missions with precision, and upheld the proud history of America’s men and women in uniform. You fearlessly defended our nation and her honor. You made incredible sacrifices for our country and for the most vulnerable Afghan citizens you encountered. You are America’s finest ambassadors.

“It is a great honor for our team at Freedom Alliance to know so many of our combat veterans and Gold Star Families and to provide assistance on behalf of our generous supporters. We will continue to do so. You are in our prayers. God Bless you, one and all.”

 

[Robin]

Phazer: So, is this how the end of Vietnam felt back here in the states?

It is a question like this that makes me wish I were a better typist. In short, yes. I was sad and even embarrassed for our country, I was fearful for those allies and possible Americans left behind, puzzled as to why the ARVN didn't do better in their engagements with the communists.
Unlike many of my contemporaries, I was not ashamed of my service in Viet Nam. It was and is a part of my life, my life and I own it and will never denounce anyone that served there no matter their political leanings. Like Afghan Vets, we fought in a noble cause, freedom, we gave our all, we did not lose, we, with few exceptions fought with the same temerity as Americans have displayed since Bunker hill.
The losing part belongs to the grifter's, the corrupt politicians, corporate and military personal that gave up on the mission and skewed it to serve their own greed and advancement.
Any Afghan Vet within hearing I would say, stand tall trooper, this ain't on you, yeah it hurts, but, you drive on, you live your life, do the best you can with what you have to be a good person and fight for freedom here, that is the mission.
Robin

 

[Blimey]

Guy saying that UK's 2 PARA and associated PMCs are running patrols into Kabul to get UK/Irish/Afghan people out, and their CO got into a fight with the 82nd's CO on the ground about it. Says that CENTCOM told them not to leave the airport and that the Brits going to get people endangers the 'deal' with the Taliban the US has.

2 PARA is concerned that the US will just bail and leave them there.

Box of dynamite with people throwing matches at it. If the Taliban--and it could be something as simple as a random patrol of them--decides to fight back it forces that patrol into a firefight. Then you get a mogadishu situation with taliban coming in en masse and then relying on air support and more western troops leaving the airport to give support. An epic shit show.

 

[Phazer]

Phazer: So, is this how the end of Vietnam felt back here in the states?

It is a question like this that makes me wish I were a better typist. In short, yes. I was sad and even embarrassed for our country, I was fearful for those allies and possible Americans left behind, puzzled as to why the ARVN didn't do better in their engagements with the communists.
Unlike many of my contemporaries, I was not ashamed of my service in Viet Nam. It was and is a part of my life, my life and I own it and will never denounce anyone that served there no matter their political leanings. Like Afghan Vets, we fought in a noble cause, freedom, we gave our all, we did not lose, we, with few exceptions fought with the same temerity as Americans have displayed since Bunker hill.

I've long said: The only force on the planet that can beat the United States armed forces is the United States government.

 

[byron]

With all of this distraction we better keep a close eye on what's going on here at home the dumocraps will be pulling shit while everybody's distracted they love a crises

 

[Jsmegs77]

With all of this distraction we better keep a close eye on what's going on here at home the dumocraps will be pulling shit while everybody's distracted they love a crises

Yeah. This is a really big expensive distraction from say, the election audits for example. Gotta keep the pressure on that arena… who’s to say this whole pull-out debacle wasn’t specifically set off to take eyes off the election?