Trump announces deal ending Govt shutdown.

[DoD1776]

Trump announces deal ending longest-ever government shutdown
Trump announces deal ending longest-ever government shutdown
US President Donald Trump has announced a deal to reopen the government after more than 34 days, the longest shutdown in US history.
Speech at 1:30PM EST
Details to follow

"put the security of the American people first."

“In a short while, I will sign a bill to open our government for three weeks,” he said, adding that lawmakers would work over this time on a more permanent solution of the border issues.

 

[Modean]

And got nothing in return, but a promise to talk.

 

[BDinPutnam]

WINNING! I'm so sick and tired of WINNING!

 

[Mr. terzmo]

And got nothing in return, but a promise to talk.

And what would you suggest he do ?.....I see where his move is going...maybe I'm wrong but I doubt it

 

[Podmonkey]

WINNING! I'm so sick and tired of WINNING!

Did he win though?

 

[DoD1776]

 

[Dr. Evil]

"Finally and fully acknowledged that having barriers, fences or walls or what ever you want to call it will be an important part of the solution."

Did Pelosi and Schumer all of the sudden fall and bump their heads? We'll see, won't we. So, is the SOTU back on?

 

[That_FNG]

All talk but where is the action? Politicians are good at talking but suck at doing.

 

[SomeSoldier]

Fuck the SOTU. This country is done, the wall will never be built. Immigration laws will never be forced. Dems policies for everyone. Unless there is some slim chance that Trump has dirt on everyone but I doubt that.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

The ball is back in the dems court as they are now on the spot to negotiate. Most likely nothing acceptable will be negotiated and that gives time for the next 2 caravans to arrive so trump on Feb 15 calls it a "national emergency" and the wall gets funded through the huge military budget. What happens to the dems.....months of finger pointing they do nothing and care more about illegals than natural Americans. A lot of republican ammunition for 2020.

Then dems get the 9th circuit to stop His declaration and the issue goes on the fast track to the SCOTUS. 5/4 trump prevails

 

[SomeSoldier]

The ball is back in the dems court as they are now on the spot to negotiate. Most likely nothing acceptable will be negotiated and that gives time for the next 2 caravans to arrive so trump on Feb 15 calls it a "national emergency" and the wall gets funded through the huge military budget. What happens to the dems.....months of finger pointing they do nothing and care more about illegals than natural Americans. A lot of republican ammunition for 2020.

Then dems get the 9th circuit to stop His declaration and the issue goes on the fast track to the SCOTUS. 5/4 trump prevails

I hope you are right.

 

[togmaster]

Just kicking the can down the road as I see it.

 

[GOYABEAN]

And in three weeks will be hearing the same BS from democrats NO $$$ for wall fence or shrubs but bottomless fund's for illegal immigrants and shit hole third world countries

 

[Blimey]

Congratulations are due to Pelosi and Schumer. Though they own the house they do not own the Senate or the oval office and they just did Trump pretty good. Ran roughshod over him and now the gov is open having accomplished nothing but ~$5B or so in damage to the economy (based on estimates I've heard) without so much as a cup of cold shit for his wall.

He lost bigly.

 

[Blimey]

The ball is back in the dems court as they are now on the spot to negotiate. Most likely nothing acceptable will be negotiated and that gives time for the next 2 caravans to arrive so trump on Feb 15 calls it a "national emergency" and the wall gets funded through the huge military budget. What happens to the dems.....months of finger pointing they do nothing and care more about illegals than natural Americans. A lot of republican ammunition for 2020.

Then dems get the 9th circuit to stop His declaration and the issue goes on the fast track to the SCOTUS. 5/4 trump prevails

Why will the democrats negotiate? They just called Trump's bluff and he didn't have a hand. If they were unwilling to negotiate yesterday why would they with the gov open? They'll spit in his face. And if he threatens to close the government again they'll just tell him to do it.

He got played.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Them bitches talking shit already just as expected

 

[Jmac00]

Im mixed on this, Im disappointed that Trump caved to the Schumpelosi, what I am truly disappointed in is Trump left this "deal" openended.

he should have said "Im opening the government for 15 days, if we DON'T have a wall at the endo of 15 days, Im shuting the government down again until these lying POS democRATS can get there shit together"

or

Hey Chuck Pelosi, you have 15 days til to get me the money for the wall, after that Im declaring a National Emergency and building the wall without you

 

[Blimey]

Them bitches talking shit already just as expected

They won, they have earned a right to talk shit.Trump fucked this good and proper, but you know what, even when he had the house he couldn't get this done.

I've been behind the wall from day one. We already have 500 miles of it and need a few hundred more. Apparently both parties just DGAF.

 

[GOYABEAN]

President Trump better shove it all the way in next chance he gets because these democrats are the worst thing for our country enough playing tit for tat send it home for once

 

[Blimey]

Im mixed on this, Im disappointed that Trump caved to the Schumpelosi, what I am truly disappointed in is Trump left this "deal" openended.

he should have said "Im opening the government for 15 days, if we DON'T have a wall at the endo of 15 days, Im shuting the government down again until these lying POS democRATS can get there shit together"

or

Hey Chuck Pelosi, you have 15 days til to get me the money for the wall, after that Im declaring a National Emergency and building the wall without you

But think about it--what would it accomplish? They just played him for a fool. They said we can negotiate if you reopen, so now he's done it so they will negotiate? Maybe they give him $30 for his wall or a few boxes of pizza. They already know what he wants. It's easy to put it back into a bill and get it through.

I've been wrong before but I predict he gets little to nothing now.

The person who seems most desperate in a negotiation has no power and now the entire world knows who has the desperate position without leverage.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Why will the democrats negotiate? They just called Trump's bluff and he didn't have a hand. If they were unwilling to negotiate yesterday why would they with the gov open? They'll spit in his face. And if he threatens to close the government again they'll just tell him to do it.

He got played.

Did I not state nothing would be negotiated ??
And to the others that stated he shit in his face....lose a round...win the fight.

 

[GOYABEAN]

They won, they have earned a right to talk shit.Trump fucked this good and proper, but you know what, even when he had the house he couldn't get this done.

I've been behind the wall from day one. We already have 500 miles of it and need a few hundred more. Apparently both parties just DGAF.

It should be like the border wall in the dmz land mines machine guns every 700yards

 

[Blimey]

Did I not state nothing would be negotiated ??
And to the others that stated he shit in his face....lose a round...win the fight.

Mark my words, what he just did is not going to lead to any deal in February in which he gets $5.7B or more to a border wall, not a chance in hell.

They were unwilling to give him anything. Even he was willing to make concessions, they said F off to that, now he opens the gov't anyway.

What little appetite people had for the shutdown they will have even less of in three weeks. He runs a strong risk of party revolt and a veto-proof budget. If that ever happened his presidency would be over. It happened last in 1982 I believe.

He's playing with fire and getting burned already.

 

[GOYABEAN]

Mark my words, what he just did is not going to lead to any deal in February in which he gets $5.7B or more to a border wall, not a chance in hell.

They were unwilling to give him anything. Even he was willing to make concessions, they said F off to that, now he opens the gov't anyway.

What little appetite people had for the shutdown they will have even less of in three weeks. He runs a strong risk of party revolt and a veto-proof budget. If that ever happened his presidency would be over. It happened last in 1982 I believe.

He's playing with fire and getting burned already.

If you listen you can hear the courts in california starting the paper work

 

[BDinPutnam]

"But he's a FIGHTER... !"

So was Gerry Cooney.

 

[Mr. terzmo]

Mark my words, what he just did is not going to lead to any deal in February in which he gets $5.7B or more to a border wall, not a chance in hell.

They were unwilling to give him anything. Even he was willing to make concessions, they said F off to that, now he opens the gov't anyway.

What little appetite people had for the shutdown they will have even less of in three weeks. He runs a strong risk of party revolt and a veto-proof budget. If that ever happened his presidency would be over. It happened last in 1982 I believe.

He's playing with fire and getting burned already.

didn't say he'd get 5 billion in February. I wish people who read somthing would have it sink in and not disagree on tangents not presented

 

[Marine Cpl]

Just to play devil's advocate here and I'm in no way saying this is true but perhaps maybe this was part of the plan to say that they refused to cooperate before the shutdown and after the shutdown when they begged for him to open it back up so that they can negotiate and after the reopening, they still refuse to cooperate so a state of emergency is declared?

I mean to establish a state of emergency and to have the military build it or appropriating funds to get it via emergency, by doing it this way, he has showed that all options have been exhausted.

He can later say that even with amnesty, they refused to cooperate so he was forced to go via Emergency.

This is just me looking multiple steps ahead like I always do with everything instead of just looking at where I'm currently standing now like many here seem to always do. Some of you guys are incapable of doing that and your posts on every subject reflect that.

If I were him, that's how I'd play it.

 

[Blimey]

Just to play devil's advocate here and I'm in no way saying this is true but perhaps maybe this was part of the plan to say that they refused to cooperate before the shutdown and after the shutdown when they begged for him to open it back up so that they can negotiate and after the reopening, they still refuse to cooperate so a state of emergency is declared?

I mean to establish a state of emergency and to have the military build it or appropriating funds to get it via emergency, by doing it this way, he has showed that all options have been exhausted.

He can later say that even with amnesty, they refused to cooperate so he was forced to go via Emergency.

This is just me looking multiple steps ahead like I always do with everything instead of just looking at where I'm currently standing now like many here seem to always do. Some of you guys are incapable of doing that and your posts on every subject reflect that.

If I were him, that's how I'd play it.

Possible but here is what will happen:

1) dems will give no ground
2) he will not shut down again on feb 15
3) he will declare an emergency
4) it will immediately be blocked by the courts

He won’t be able to show there is an emergency because the border situation has been like this for many years.

I believe he did major damage to his brand over this. The media of course is having a field day with it.

How Trump Lost More Than Just the Shutdown

 

[Shadow2]

My bet is he's going to declare national emergency, Its irrelevant if a lib judge tries to shut it down the money would have already been spent.

What burden is he required to approve the same burden that was required for message of necessity.

 

[redtail]

Sidestepped.
Super bowl security- ck
State of union- ck
Making chuck and nancy look even more unreasonable and rigid with no concerns for America- coming in 3 wks.