Trump just signed an EO protecting the 2a!

[Old Jalopy]

You’ll get what you get, and you’ll like it. And, by the way, we will get nothing. Well, maybe some more smoke blown up our mag wells, but no real, tangible restoration or preservation of our right “to keep and bear.” Same old, same old.

Agreed.

 

[Brawny71]

For some maybe it's jealousy.
I personally don't care where someone lives.
I'm not leaving because my family has owned this land for 180 years and built a half dozen very successful business's.
I will stay here and I'd much rather not comply than move.
I could move anywhere tomorrow, but I'm not gonna!!

Moving someplace new doesn’t affect the tyrant; only the Freeman.

 

[Beerman]

I moved and I don't regret it. I have a bunch of handguns now and my rifles don't look funny. I still hope for the best that someday NY will be forced to change. It sucks I was forced out of my homeland by the nonsense.


I vote and encourage others to do so to keep my state the way it is.

I have seen a burning and seething hatred by some for those of us who moved. Why? I can only assume jealousy.

I often think to myself how our Founding Fathers must have said the same thing to one another. “Just gather thy household and flee in a wagon thereby! Establish a new house where thy freedom is thine own, beholden to no man, until such time as thou are once again encroached upon, at which time, seriously, dude- just move to a freer state! I did it and I don’t regret it, my good man.”

I have lived in “free states” and I chose to return to the Adirondacks, where I was born and raised. This is my home. I will not be driven from it, nor choose to leave. I am thankful for the time I lived elsewhere, and still miss things about those places. I like hearing about people who have left NYS and are thriving in other states. Generations of ancestry before me have called this place their homes, too. Truthfully, we could live nearly anywhere, and this is the place where we want to live. Until someone, somehow, either takes it from me, or takes me from it, we will remain. Make all the arbitrary rules you wish; I may or may not comply.

Is any part of my diatribe a perfect argument for staying? Nope, not even close. It’s not an argument, though. The decision is final, nothing to be discussed. Other people have different circumstances, finances, commitments, hindrances, opportunities- any/all of which shape their choices of whether or not to move, or stay, and if you look close enough: that is freedom.

 

[Robin]

I hear ya Beerman! Heck, the New York legislature took away my trophy cuz I no longer participate.
Robin

 

[Old Jalopy]

I often think to myself how our Founding Fathers must have said the same thing to one another. “Just gather thy household and flee in a wagon thereby! Establish a new house where thy freedom is thine own, beholden to no man, until such time as thou are once again encroached upon, at which time, seriously, dude- just move to a freer state! I did it and I don’t regret it, my good man.”

I have lived in “free states” and I chose to return to the Adirondacks, where I was born and raised. This is my home. I will not be driven from it, nor choose to leave. I am thankful for the time I lived elsewhere, and still miss things about those places. I like hearing about people who have left NYS and are thriving in other states. Generations of ancestry before me have called this place their homes, too. Truthfully, we could live nearly anywhere, and this is the place where we want to live. Until someone, somehow, either takes it from me, or takes me from it, we will remain. Make all the arbitrary rules you wish; I may or may not comply.

Is any part of my diatribe a perfect argument for staying? Nope, not even close. It’s not an argument, though. The decision is final, nothing to be discussed. Other people have different circumstances, finances, commitments, hindrances, opportunities- any/all of which shape their choices of whether or not to move, or stay, and if you look close enough: that is freedom.

Well said. The ADK's is one reason I'm still here. It's not easy to stay here and continue to be bullied, lied to, and treated like crap by the NYS politicians. I embrace the suck and keep things moving. My wife has family that aren't well and a good job here, and that adds to the decision to stay, but even she's getting tired of the anti gun laws and taxes. How much more I can take is a question I ask myself every day. We comply with the stupid laws, no excuses, we just do.



I have seen more than one of the mighty "I will not comply!" chest beaters at an indoor range we used to go to with their compliant rifles. Fixed mags, Thordsens, and even spur grips. Maybe at home they are different, but they still complied to go to that range. Compliance is compliance. I have no problem at all with those who don't comply, do you. But, don't jump on a soap box and tell people not to comply if you're not supporting what you're bellowing about.



As for the topic, two days to go and nothing. In fact, many states are doubling down on new gun laws because they know it's all just BS from the federal level. I hope I'm proven wrong, I'll gladly eat that crow and not even use hot sauce. But, sadly, I don't think I'm wrong.

 

[Vapor]

I don't care at all if people want to stay. Guns aren't the number one thing in life at any give time anyway. I don't have any negative opinions either way stay or leave.

 

[Criticalt]

Moving someplace new doesn’t affect the tyrant; only the Freeman.

Sure, but because tyranny isn't going anywhere, it would be nice to have an AR-10 to play with.