Trump says spike in crime, high taxes could help him win New York in 2020 election
- Thread starter Bigfoot
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NY will NOT go to Trump, it will be a lot closer than 2016, nut it will go to Biden.
California though???? Trump absolutely has a good chance of taking that state,.
California though???? Trump absolutely has a good chance of taking that state,.
Blimey
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Very interesting. They lost 3% of the letters. the guy says 3% could be pivotal in the election, which while true is not relevant to the 3% lost, as that 3% lost would surely fall across the same distribution of votes in general. So losing 3% would be unlikely to actually alter the results. That's not a great success rate, though. I really thought USPS did a better job than 97%.
Experiment was done in one city I'd like to see it done statewide with loss % tracked by geographic location. If PO loses higher percentage of rural vs city (or vice versa) it most certainly could skew results.
spat
.950 JDJ
If they were lost accidentally you would expect them to be evenly distributed.
But if they weren't.....
How would you know ?
Not even considering outright fraud, but how about a mail carrier who is just a little more careful about ballots from one area vs another because he knows that area has "good people" ?
In that case nobody's ballots are intentionally discarded, and no false ballots are delivered, but the "natural" missing 3% just becomes 0.5% in the areas with extra careful mail carriers ?
Honestly that could work in our favor. Mail carriers tend to live in the areas they serve. Want to make any bets about the work ethic of mail carriers in conservative communities vs liberal ones?
I have no political party myself.
I have a little of each.
I would say mostly Libertarian but they lose me on alot of issues......the same issues that most have with them and the reason they arent more popular. Most of mt issues with the Libertarians comes from them wanting open borders and their views on foreign issues and dealing with hostile nations.
As far as I know there has never been a country to use American libertarianism ideas.....doesnt say much for their ideas. Heck, even Communism and Socialism have been used.
As for me I vote for who comes closest to what I want. There is never a perfect choice, usually not even close, but I vote anyways.
Id say I vote along conservative lines even though I have some real issues with conservatives being hypocritical and just plain unamerican about some things.....mostly social.
I could care less about who you marry. But staunch conservatives want to make rules about who you marry. Just state your opinion and dont marry someone of the same gender. Bur no, conservatives want to make gay marrige illegal....just goofy.
And then there is abortion and transsexuals and on and on and on.....conservatives want to make the social rules. How does that square with all men are equal and the very ideals our country was founded on?
Anyways, maybe ill create my own political party.
Do what you want as long as it doesnt interfere with my rights. Marry who you want, just dont force churches to go against their rights. Abort your baby, just dont force me to....after all, it is murder at a certain point.
Strong borders with legal entry.
Welfare when needed and STRONGLY controlled and punished when misused.
Most of all, leave everyone alone as long as they arent violating your rights.
And cut 90% of the government.
spat
.950 JDJ
The big "L" Libertarian party is a bit nuts.I have no political party myself.
I have a little of each.
I would say mostly Libertarian but they lose me on alot of issues......the same issues that most have with them and the reason they arent more popular. Most of mt issues with the Libertarians comes from them wanting open borders and their views on foreign issues and dealing with hostile nations.
As far as I know there has never been a country to use American libertarianism ideas.....doesnt say much for their ideas. Heck, even Communism and Socialism have been used.
As for me I vote for who comes closest to what I want. There is never a perfect choice, usually not even close, but I vote anyways.
Id say I vote along conservative lines even though I have some real issues with conservatives being hypocritical and just plain unamerican about some things.....mostly social.
I could care less about who you marry. But staunch conservatives want to make rules about who you marry. Just state your opinion and dont marry someone of the same gender. Bur no, conservatives want to make gay marrige illegal....just goofy.
And then there is abortion and transsexuals and on and on and on.....conservatives want to make the social rules. How does that square with all men are equal and the very ideals our country was founded on?
Anyways, maybe ill create my own political party.
Do what you want as long as it doesnt interfere with my rights. Marry who you want, just dont force churches to go against their rights. Abort your baby, just dont force me to....after all, it is murder at a certain point.
Strong borders with legal entry.
Welfare when needed and STRONGLY controlled and punished when misused.
Most of all, leave everyone alone as long as they arent violating your rights.
And cut 90% of the government.
It's small "l" libertarian philosophy I am talking about.
I don't think strong borders or a strong military are incompatible with libertarian philosophy.
libertarian philosophy is big on personal property. Locking your doors and defending what's yours is the quintessential libertarian activity. Strong borders and a strong military are a logical extension of that.
The open borders crowd have just abandoned that core principle.
In many ways libertarianism *is* the philosophy that largely guided the creation of the US, so i don't think it's fair to say it's never been tried. I think most of the successful nations in history needed core libertarian values to thrive. Most eventually abandoned them and then began their decline.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
ALL GAS has that sign on their showroom door. I feel safe inside.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
Heres the problem with Libertarians.
Look around online.
They cannot even agree if they are left, right or anarchists. There are a dozen "forms" of libertarianism and none of the dozen agree on much. Its all just a bit confused.....even to themselves.
Im not a huge researcher of libertarianism but from what ive seen, the AMERICAN idea of libertarianism has never been used successfully.
There are people that call themselves libertarians who go from far, far left ideals all the way to extreme right and even extreme racism.
Im talking about the American libertarians.....they cannot agree on anything. Thats why the Green party gets more votes.......ironically, many people who vote Green, consider themselves libertarians.
The American libertarians with open borders, no foreign wars, no public schools, legalize all drugs and no welfare is tough to understand when 3 billion people want to come here, there are countries who want us dead, drugs arent great, and 40% of people are out of work.
Im all on board with the property thing and just leave people alone as long as they are obeying the constitution and the laws we have agreed on.....murder, rape, treason, arson....
I just cannot even begin to understand the enormous confusion in their party.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
With great freedom comes enormous responsibility. We will never be ready for, or even able to handle that individually, and remain a civil society. I am sort of a Libertarian Constitutional Conservative. Whatever that means.
BDinPutnam
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I think you and I diverge on a couple issues but for my part, the word I use is "conservatarian." Not eloquent maybe.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
I agree with most of what you say here, and I think you and I could easily enjoy sending some rounds down range or down the gullet. I have long been a conservatarian, just didn't know there was a shorter name for it.
Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
People have been sold on the 2 party system for too long. Time for a Moderate party who respects the fucking constitution.
TEOTWAWKI inc.
.338 Win Mag
That is where I think conservatives should be. The far-normal wing of both parties.
spat
.950 JDJ
It would require a complete reworking of the constitution to change the 2 party system.
Individual parties may come and go, and you *might* get an election here or there with 3 during a transitional period when one is dying, but the number 2 is baked into the structure of our government.
Phazer
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Though....many of those BLM signs are put up as wishful talismans against potential marauding mobs of peaceful protesters.
Blimey
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I think that is part of it.
You're newer here, aren't you???
BDinPutnam
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I guess you missed when Trump said "its the REPUBLICAN party, not the CONSERVATIVE party."