Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'

[Madmallard]

President Trump on Wednesday voiced support for confiscating guns from certain individuals deemed to be dangerous, even if it violates due process rights.

“I like taking the guns early, like in this crazy man’s case that just took place in Florida ... to go to court would have taken a long time,” Trump said at a meeting with lawmakers on school safety and gun violence.

“Take the guns first, go through due process second,” Trump said.

Trump was responding to comments from Vice President Pence that families and local law enforcement should have more tools to report potentially dangerous individuals with weapons.

“Allow due process so no one’s rights are trampled, but the ability to go to court, obtain an order and then collect not only the firearms but any weapons,” Pence said.

"Or, Mike, take the firearms first, and then go to court," Trump responded.

Trump met with lawmakers on Wednesday to discuss gun laws and school safety in the aftermath of a Feb. 14 shooting at a high school in Parkland, Fla., that left 17 people dead.

The suspected shooter, Nikolas Cruz, was able to legally purchase the AR-15 reportedly used in the shooting despite numerous calls to law enforcement about his unstable behavior.

Trump: 'Take the guns first, go through due process second'

 

[SomeSoldier]

This is getting scary quick.

 

[GuyMontag]

He just went full retard.

 

[Joe Blow]

He just went full retard.

Our President at work...
He's always been full retard... Watch the news, tweet about it.

 

[Saltwater60]

Oh yes. Scary fast. He will backtrack, but I don’t trust him or any of them. Something bad will come of this federally and a lot bad in NYS.

 

[Joe Blow]

C'mon... Give him time to watch TV and for the news to tell him what to do...

 

[VietnamEraVet]

This is getting scary quick.

I remember looking at buying a long gun right after Sandy Hook happened. I was asking some gun owners I knew their thoughts about it, and if they thought anything would come of it. And to a man, they all said, "No,- don't think anything will happen...".

And then the Princess shoved NY(UN)SAFE down on us after he bribed a few gutless Republicans.

This shit has the exact same feel to me as what happened then. Ugh!

 

[Modean]

Kinda like guilty until proven innocent?

 

[Steal2B]

It seems Trump needs routine calibration and tune ups for his brain to catch up with his tongue. I'll bet he has always been that way and may continue to occasionally stumble because of this characteristic. The House wouldn't let that crap here happen.

 

[holdover]

Hey, We had to throw dice with the the guy, Hillary was a guaranteed ban. no question about it. Trump was a total crap shoot. Still is. I think he may back peddle on it as usual . He talks before he thinks .

The law states you cannot deprive a person of their rights or property without due process . So passing something like this is going to be pretty hard.

 

[GuyMontag]

Denying someone due process isn't going to happen just because Trump wants it.

 

[ArmedCorgi]

We'll see. I watched a little of that meeting and I wasn't happy with some of what Trump was talking about, like what is posted above. Part of me feels like this whole thing was for the cameras though and not what is really going on in Trump's head.

 

[Chuck D]

Nothing Trump said about confiscation from those who are deemed a threat to others and including CCW recognition nationwide was wrong .

If there is enougj probable cause that someone is off their rocker and a danger, police have the OBLIGATION to comfiscate firearms to protect the public as long as due process is not denied.

If you think we will ever see CCW nationwide you are out of your mind. Even if by some miracle it gets passed and signed into law leftists will tie it up in the Courts for decades.

As long as there are no firearms or mag capacity bans coming out of this on the Federal level count yourself lucky.

 

[Darth]

Come on guys, I'm sure it's just it out context. No possible way he could not be the 2A messiah or anything.

 

[fartgamer]

Supports UBC’s and holds hands with Chris Murphy. WTH?

 

[fartgamer]

Oh yes. Scary fast. He will backtrack, but I don’t trust him or any of them. Something bad will come of this federally and a lot bad in NYS.

Monkey face is gearing up for something.

 

[Phazer]

If there is enougj probable cause that someone is off their rocker and a danger, police have the OBLIGATION to comfiscate firearms to protect the public as long as due process is not denied.

Correct. They have an obligation to present their evidence to a judge to get an emergency warrant prior to any confiscation.

 

[togmaster]

Very dangerous talk. Trump is known for speaking without thinking first. I hope there is a retraction in the news tomorrow.

 

[Catskillkid]

Monkey face is gearing up for something.

Was talking with one of my local FFLs today about that very thing. He's worried because Cuomo has been relatively silent. You'd think he'd be screaming from the rafters that unSAFE worked so great and the whole nation should follow suit, but he really hasn't all that much. My FFL thinks that before the end of this legislative session we're going to see some kind of unSAFE 2.0 probably with a raising of the purchase age for all guns to 21 (or above) and a complete prohibition on semiauto long guns. This is NY so anything can happen.

 

[Gunright]

Nothing Trump said about confiscation from those who are deemed a threat to others and including CCW recognition nationwide was wrong .

If there is enougj probable cause that someone is off their rocker and a danger, police have the OBLIGATION to comfiscate firearms to protect the public as long as due process is not denied.

If you think we will ever see CCW nationwide you are out of your mind. Even if by some miracle it gets passed and signed into law leftists will tie it up in the Courts for decades.

As long as there are no firearms or mag capacity bans coming out of this on the Federal level count yourself lucky.

If there is enough probable cause that someone is off their rocker and a danger, they should not be on the street. It isn't a matter of them having guns, they could be equally as dangerous with a truck, with gasoline, with tree stump remover plus ... and so on.

So if "compromise" is just giving the gun grabbers part of what they want with nothing in return, then why participate? Assuming there is enough republicans in congress with balls, then NOTHING should be done. F Trump's ideas.

 

[Jmac00]

Trump is dead to me, I have had enough o his shitty as tweets and now he's caving to Feinstein

Fuck trump

 

[holdover]

Nobody gives a shit if you pull a crazy guy off the streets. I don't think there's many people who argue in favor of gun rights for the insane .thats not the issue.

The abuse of such a law will without a doubt lead to barring any person who has been depressed or aggressive, or recently divorced or whatever there are hundreds of things that can be found.

Now they have introduced a bill manning all semi auto weapons including shotguns and handguns.

Not saying it will pass but that's where their headed.

 

[CaseHardened]

WHAT I AM ABOUT TO POST WILL NOT BE POPULAR - BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ALL WRONG

Gun Owners simply cannot afford HITS like PARKLAND.

The deck is stacked against us - BIGTIME.

THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS MUST STOP - or - in time - THE 2A WILL BE REPEALED.

There are REAL SOLUTIONS here - like ASYLUMS for the Violent Mentally Ill. Like ARMING TEACHERS.

But sadly, these are tough rows to hoe.

WE NEED TO CUT OUR LOSSES - NOW

If Trump's Proposal to remove Firearms from dangerous people, if raising the Age to 21, if banning Bump Stocks, prevents one of these PUBLICITY DISASTERS, it will be worth it.

Notice I did NOT mention AR-15 Bans. That is something we CANNOT ALLOW. That is too high a price to pay.

 

[Darth]

If anyone doesn't see the egregious error and disastrous problems that would come with a 21 age limit, they are fooling themselves.

Do people forget they were 18 once?

But hey, "I've got mine!" right?

 

[Darth]

What do a ton of people do at 18? Leave home. Now they are on their own, starting a family.

NO GUNS 4 U! Die for all I care.

"It will be worth it."

-NYGF, 2018.

 

[CaseHardened]

If anyone doesn't see the egregious error and disastrous problems that would come with a 21 age limit, they are fooling themselves.

Do people forget they were 18 once?

But hey, "I've got mine!" right?

Better at 21 than NEVER.

 

[Darth]

Better at 21 than NEVER.

How big is that slice of cake now?

Crumbs?

No thanks.

 

[Jmac00]

WHAT I AM ABOUT TO POST WILL NOT BE POPULAR - BUT WE'RE LOOKING AT THIS ALL WRONG

Gun Owners simply cannot afford HITS like PARKLAND.

The deck is stacked against us - BIGTIME.

THESE SCHOOL SHOOTINGS MUST STOP - or - in time - THE 2A WILL BE REPEALED.

There are REAL SOLUTIONS here - like ASYLUMS for the Violent Mentally Ill. Like ARMING TEACHERS.

But sadly, these are tough rows to hoe.

WE NEED TO CUT OUR LOSSES - NOW

If Trump's Proposal to remove Firearms from dangerous people, if raising the Age to 21, if banning Bump Stocks, prevents one of these PUBLICITY DISASTERS, it will be worth it.

Notice I did NOT mention AR-15 Bans. That is something we CANNOT ALLOW. That is too high a price to pay.

Law-Abiding citizens have been compromising since 1934, and now we have school children being coached and funded by some of the biggest douche bags crisis experts in the anti-gun industry. They have finally found a crisis that will work in their favor,

LET ME MAKE THIS PERFECTLY CLEAR: 250 million gun owner are not responsible for one lunatic in Florida. As the old saying goes, don't judge all Muslims by the action of a few, so don't judge all gun owners by the action of ONE FREAK'N ASSHOLE.

 

[ManrisFrack]

...
If Trump's Proposal to remove Firearms from dangerous people, if raising the Age to 21, if banning Bump Stocks, prevents one of these PUBLICITY DISASTERS, it will be worth it...

How is any of that going to stop the next mass shooter? For each point, I can hold up at least one previous shooting as an example of how that particular measure would not have worked. If you could guarantee that these "publicity disasters" would no longer occur, you'd have a point worth debating; you cannot and you don't.

 

[Darth]

WGAF about publicity disasters? When have we ever satiated the gun grabbers and they said "Ok then, no more gun grabbing."

16 age limit. 18 age limit. 21 age limit. 25 age limit...