$8 apple? Maybe I should by a couple of truck loads today. Where do you get you data for $8 apples? BTW the stock market (DOW) is down to 24000 neighborhood from 26000 neighborhood.
Trump Tariffs (merged threads)
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holdover
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Prices are going to fluctuate according to the supply and demand, Come on now. That always happens to commodity's. The tariffs on Mexico have almost nothing to do with the price of their goods, You know that, It has to do with illegal immigration And open borders. That sounds like it is strengthening the back bone of America to me.
BDinPutnam
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This makes absolutely no sense.
holdover
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???? How so?
BDinPutnam
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If tariffs have no impact on the price of goods (on either the export or import side) why impose them and what effect would you be seeking?
holdover
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The reason Trump placed Tarriffs on Mexico was because of Immigration not prices, Where Am I wrong?
It has nothing to do with the prices of Mexican goods being high or low.
It has nothing to do with the prices of Mexican goods being high or low.
holdover
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They do.
The effect Trump is seeking is to punch the Mexicans in the wallet. We went over this before, they cant sell their goods here at high prices, market wont accept it. They can import them but they will rot in the warehouses.In other words they cant sell their shit here until they start doing something on the border.
BDinPutnam
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Problem: we need help with the border crisis.
Solution: antagonize our third largest trading partner while also trying to conclude the President's signature trade deal with them and Canada.
Brilliant!
Solution: antagonize our third largest trading partner while also trying to conclude the President's signature trade deal with them and Canada.
Brilliant!
holdover
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It is! I totally agree with it! Thers no excuse for them to sit by and watch ,if not help, thousands of Illegal immigrants cross our borders then want to sell us their garbage. You want access to the market? then you have to lend us a hand. that's how it works . You want to fuck me while you make money in my store? no. you can go somewhere else, Thanks.
Which is better? having the Mexicans assist with closing the border and getting your 1 dollar apples back, or having your one dollar apples now with open borders?
Which is better? having the Mexicans assist with closing the border and getting your 1 dollar apples back, or having your one dollar apples now with open borders?
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kev74
20×102mm Vulcan
I was going to get taco bell for lunch, but you guys are making me feel guilty now. 
I bought a Titan xd PR, used to be a chevy guy but not after they never paid the loan back; f them! Ram = foreign, Ford= junk/foreign.
BDinPutnam
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So bailouts for American companies are bad.
Except when Trump does them. Because that is exactly what subsidies to the farms is.
Except when Trump does them. Because that is exactly what subsidies to the farms is.
Never said good or bad, but if you are supposed to pay it back then pay it back. GM never paid it back.
They could have gone bankrupt got rid of the unions or renegotiated, same for the banks. I don't see anyone as to big to fail.
My 2003 and 2006 GM trucks were crap like back when the US lost the automotive to the japs.
They could have gone bankrupt got rid of the unions or renegotiated, same for the banks. I don't see anyone as to big to fail.
My 2003 and 2006 GM trucks were crap like back when the US lost the automotive to the japs.
I really don't give a crap about "antagonizing" some Third World Hellhole.
If the USA never existed, if north of the Rio Grande was another Ocean, Mexico would be the world's MOST worthless country.
Any success they enjoy is due the USA.
Dr. Evil
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Shadow2
6.5 Creedmoor
I don't need Mexican Crap Goods or Chinese crap goods, Japanese make some nice stuff lets keep that relationship civil.
Blimey
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This threat appears to have substantial weight with Mexico, it's already putting in additional efforts into stopping the flow.
BDinPutnam
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Good to know you prefer not to have seats in your American made vehicles.
pjzwtl
.308 Win
And a threat is probably all it was. Playing nice never seems to work with pain in the ass “partners”
pjzwtl
.308 Win
Someone else will make them
BDinPutnam
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I dont understand you guys. You want manufacturing jobs in the US but you claim all the US companies that would create them are horrible "globalists."
So who do you want to create these jobs?
So who do you want to create these jobs?
Marine Cpl
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What’s not to understand? We want American companies to build in America using American employees. If tariffs take away the incentive of American companies to stop using cheap labor overseas to build car seats since it’ll make building overseas nonprofitable, we win. We will get more Americans working here building car seats. More Americans working equals more money in the American pocket spending here in the US which equals a better economy.
holdover
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Deal Reached With Mexico "To Stem The Tide Of Migration", Tariffs Suspended.
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!
5:31 PM - 7 Jun 2019
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!
The State Department released the following "details" (which many said we beyond opaque):
Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.
Migrant Protection Protocols
The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.
In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.
Further Actions
Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.
Trump on Saturday also tweeted that Mexico also will buy “large quantities” of agricultural products, a stipulation that wasn’t included in a joint statement. As reported previously, Mexico did commit to deploying National Guard troops to help curb illegal migration and agree to care for Central Americans seeking asylum in the U.S. indefinitely as their cases wind through the system.
“Mexico successfully avoided the catastrophe of tariffs but will pay a heavy price,” said Duncan Wood, director of the Mexico Institute at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington. “Potentially tens of thousands of refugee claimants will have to wait in Mexico while their claims are processed. Mexico will have to house, employ, educate and provide health care for them. This is a huge commitment” for the government.
Trump: Deal Reached With Mexico "To Stem The Tide Of Migration", Tariffs Suspended
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- Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago
- I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to....
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Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 15h15 hours ago....stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States. Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department. Thank you!
5:31 PM - 7 Jun 2019
Donald J. TrumpVerified account @realDonaldTrump 4h4 hours ago
MEXICO HAS AGREED TO IMMEDIATELY BEGIN BUYING LARGE QUANTITIES OF AGRICULTURAL PRODUCT FROM OUR GREAT PATRIOT FARMERS!
The State Department released the following "details" (which many said we beyond opaque):
Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.
Migrant Protection Protocols
The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.
In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.
Further Actions
Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.
Trump on Saturday also tweeted that Mexico also will buy “large quantities” of agricultural products, a stipulation that wasn’t included in a joint statement. As reported previously, Mexico did commit to deploying National Guard troops to help curb illegal migration and agree to care for Central Americans seeking asylum in the U.S. indefinitely as their cases wind through the system.
“Mexico successfully avoided the catastrophe of tariffs but will pay a heavy price,” said Duncan Wood, director of the Mexico Institute at the Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars in Washington. “Potentially tens of thousands of refugee claimants will have to wait in Mexico while their claims are processed. Mexico will have to house, employ, educate and provide health care for them. This is a huge commitment” for the government.
Trump: Deal Reached With Mexico "To Stem The Tide Of Migration", Tariffs Suspended
Winning!!!!!!
96coal449
.308 Win
Thinking this will not be good, short term at the least, for lumber prices.
This will affect new homes market, doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the building trades in general. Home renovations, for both the small business contractor and DIYers. Unemployment will probably increase also with the lack of growth. No product, no work....
Hopefully US mills will ramp up and losses will be temporary.
What's your view?
This will affect new homes market, doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the building trades in general. Home renovations, for both the small business contractor and DIYers. Unemployment will probably increase also with the lack of growth. No product, no work....
Hopefully US mills will ramp up and losses will be temporary.
What's your view?
ManualF150
.308 Win
Temporary.
We have plenty of lumber in the Pacific Northwest, and trees used for paper and construction are replanted after an area is deforested. Been this way for a long time. Canada does this all the time, hence how they turn profits. Trees do take longer than say corn or soybean, but the acreage size plots are much, much larger than one can imagine. Essentially tree farming.
A couple truck forums I'm on are talking about truck prices going up for 2025. So that will also affect goods delivery prices and what not.
Right now, looking at what my dollar is worth, including how inflated the stock market is, the current trend we are on in that topic is unrealistic.
What we need is deflation of the US Dollar. Make it so where a one cent piece costs less to mint... Right now I think it is roughly $0.018 to mint a US penny due to raw material and energy costs.
Imagine going to the store, any you pay in cash, and your total comes to $12.82, and they say sorry sir, we don't accept pennies, so you need to pay us $12.90. Don't think for a second they'll round down. Same with the whole gimmick at the cash register of rounding you bill up to the whole dollar to give to XYZ charity. Same principle.
I'm all for new construction, but not on farm land. The shit I've been seeing going on around me is unbelievable. Lands that have been farmed for decades is now turning into housing. Why not tear down old buildings and build new at the current location?? Just makes me mad when I see this.
96coal449
.308 Win
Oh I do believe it's temporary. I'm wondering how long it would take to revamp, so to speak.
Lumber market alone could snowball many things.
Lumber market alone could snowball many things.
What we really need is for the US dollar to become sound monies again. As described in the constitution. Somewhere past, it has been said, Trump will return the gold standard. We'll see what happens.
I am not concerned. Canada and Mexico will break very soon...... This is what the might of the US is about.....
12% exports to Canada
14% exports to Mexico
Tell me again, how tariffs on our measly percentages is going to hurt us!
Canada export 75% to the US Mexico exports 80% to the United States
Now tell me which countries will suffer first? Hint: Not the USA Canada and Mexico do not have any other countries that they can flood with their goods
12% exports to Canada
14% exports to Mexico
Tell me again, how tariffs on our measly percentages is going to hurt us!
Canada export 75% to the US Mexico exports 80% to the United States
Now tell me which countries will suffer first? Hint: Not the USA Canada and Mexico do not have any other countries that they can flood with their goods
ManualF150
.308 Win
I'm like 5% slightly concerned. Not like I'm going to lose sleep over it or go crazy.
It's only a few countries. Besides, we import a lot from many other countries that isn't going to be inflicted with tariffs.
Last time I looked under the hood of my truck for example, I want to say a good share of the parts were from Germany, Taiwan, Italy, just to name a few. Yes there are China and Mexico parts in there. But these companies aren't stupid. They can either make them in the USA or move them to another country in that part of the world and avoid import tariffs to keep cost down.
Can you think of a Canadian product that’s better than an American one? Honestly curious