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Pence pushes back on Trump’s call to terminate the Constitution

Former Vice President Mike Pence on Monday pushed back on former President Trump’s assertion that the Constitution should be disregarded to allow for him to return to the White House in the wake of…
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“A Massive Fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those found in the Constitution,” Trump posted on Truth Social...

Anybody backing Trump better know exactly what he represents at this point. No excuses accepted when he takes steps to realize his fever dreams. He is speaking plainly.
 
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I share his frustration, but I dont support ANYTHING/ANYONE who wishes to disregard the Constitution.















The election was "rigged" and the current president is illegitimate. Between Covid lock downs and the push for mail in ballots, machine errors, and media/big tech suppressing relevent information that shows how the Biden crime family is in Chinas pocket, we are in a strange predicament.















I dont believe Biden won legally, but there is no way it would ever be overturned because of all of the ramifications it would have. Think off all fired govt officials, all laws signed,all policies and everthing done from one president to the other. All of it would have to be reversed if they acknowledged that the election wasnt fair. There is no way the cabal would allow that.















So Trump is furious, as he should be, but we still cannot disregard the Constitution.
 
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And let me guess the democrats want democracy?? Both sides suck at this point. I’m not a Trump fan at this point and you can go back and look at my posts to verify this, but if you think Biden wants to or is playing by the rules you’re fooled for sure.
 
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Your dislike of Trump is showing. Looking to invalidate the 2020 election is a far cry from wanting to be a dictator. Worst case he wants Biden out and for him to be installed as president, not dictator. Those that think the worst of him always interpret his statements in the worst possible way.

Having said that the statement was not in his best interests and reflects poorly on him. You can't go around talking about terminating the constitution and be considered a serious presidential candidate. He would have been better off stating the constitution was violated when the election was stolen from him and therefore a significant change was required to correct the problem. A change that is not specifically addressed in the constitution (I believe - but I could be wrong).

People forget this country was created by a violent (and at the time illegal) revolt against the existing government. The declaration of independence listed the details of how the British government was acting as a tyranny and in violation of existing law. If you believe the existing government stole the election and continues to act in tyrannical fashion.....you are getting closer to the frame of mind of the founders.
 
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From a guy thinking of running.
The communist said they would use our laws to take us over.
If things don't get better or get worse what do you think needs or will happen?
Like Bush, we need to suspend the constitution in order to return to the constitution.
Looks like bloody revolution on the horizon, unless 81 million voters change their minds.
 
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Using my perceived "dislike" of Trump as a deflection from my focus on the words coming out his mouth (fingers?) is a cop-out.
It is pretty wild how people who identify with Trump seem inclined to do a lot of "translating" and straight up looking the other way when Trump makes statements which if taken at face value show him to be just as dangerous as the fringe left where fundamental rights are concerned.
 
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Rap said:
Using my perceived "dislike" of Trump as a deflection from my focus on the words coming out his mouth (fingers?) is a cop-out.
It is pretty wild how people who identify with Trump seem inclined to do a lot of "translating" and straight up looking the other way when Trump makes statements which if taken at face value show him to be just as dangerous as the fringe left where fundamental rights are concerned.
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Jeepers, do you take the Preamble of our Constitution 'at face value", um like the part where if our Goverment is not being run like We The People wants?
 
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So it is crystal clear to you Trump stated he wants to suspend parts of OUR Constitution?
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I get what you are saying, I think. I am aware that it's incumbent on every person who believes in the Constitution to uphold it.
 
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Celt said:
I share his frustration, but I dont support ANYTHING/ANYONE who wishes to disregard the Constitution.

The election was "rigged" and the current president is illegitimate. Between Covid lock downs and the push for mail in ballots, machine errors, and media/big tech suppressing relevent information that shows how the Biden crime family is in Chinas pocket, we are in a strange predicament.

I dont believe Biden won legally, but there is no way it would ever be overturned because of all of the ramifications it would have. Think off all fired govt officials, all laws signed, all pomicies and everthing done from one president to tge ither. All of it would have to be reversed if they acknowledged that the election wasnt fair. There is no way the cabal would allow that.

So Trump is furious, as he should be, but we still cannot disregard the Constitution.
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Those are the reasons it should be overturned.

Super glad the founders didn't shy away because of a little thing like WAR!
 
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Donald Trump is not the problem. The problem are citizens uninformed about their rights under the Constitution. As Thomas Jefferson stated: “An educated citizenry is a vital requisite for our survival as a free people,”

A woman at the Constitutional Convention of 1787 asked Benjamin Franklin, “Well, Doctor, what have we got, a republic or a monarchy?” Franklin answered, “A republic, if you can keep it.”

If we as, “The People” do not follow and use our rights bestowed upon us by the words that follow, then we may lose what so many have shed their blood and died for, our FREEDOM.

The Declaration of Independence speaks loud and clear about this.

"Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security."

First Amendment

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

We had every right to overturn the 2020 election. Now, how close are we to a Monarchy?
 
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"That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness."
 
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Anyone post the recording of what Trump actually said? Sorry don't trust news outlets, tech companies or politicians.
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What he said. Everything we see, here and read from. ANY mainstream media source is 100% bullshit Anyone that bases the majority of there opinion from what tge lamesteam media says is mentally deficient.
 
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Rap said:
Using my perceived "dislike" of Trump as a deflection from my focus on the words coming out his mouth (fingers?) is a cop-out.
It is pretty wild how people who identify with Trump seem inclined to do a lot of "translating" and straight up looking the other way when Trump makes statements which if taken at face value show him to be just as dangerous as the fringe left where fundamental rights are concerned.
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What about Biden’s words? What about Biden’s actions? How do you justify them? He can’t talk, he can’t walk, he shakes hands with the air, he speaks to the dead, killed 13 Americans, and is currently giving the Taliban money. I can go on and on but I’m sure you get the point. I have not seen you post one negative thing about Biden. Oh he’s working with many terrorist or dictatorship regimes so does this mean Biden support’s Venezuela?
I’LL be honest and say it that what Trump said was stupid and wrong. Did he really mean it? I don’t know and I don’t care at this point since I’m moving in another direction, but will you vote for Biden in 2024? Trump has done too many stupid things for me to support him any longer, but can you say the same about Biden and other democrats?
Toire likely a one-sided hypocrite like most democrats.
 
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What about Biden’s words? What about Biden’s actions? How do you justify them? He can’t talk, he can’t walk, he shakes hands with the air, he speaks to the dead, killed 13 Americans, and is currently giving the Taliban money. I can go on and on but I’m sure you get the point. I have not seen you post one negative thing about Biden. Oh he’s working with many terrorist or dictatorship regimes so does this mean Biden support’s Venezuela?
I’LL be honest and say it that what Trump said was stupid and wrong. Did he really mean it? I don’t know and I don’t care at this point since I’m moving in another direction, but will you vote for Biden in 2024? Trump has done too many stupid things for me to support him any longer, but can you say the same about Biden and other democrats?
Toire likely a one-sided hypocrite like most democrats.
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I have no love for "if you don't vote for me, you ain't Black" Joe Biden. The Democratic establishment is tyrannical. Trump is tyrannical, sitting at the other end of the political spectrum.
 
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Nothing in this post talks about creating a dictatorship. I do read where he says either "declare the rightful winner" or "have new election"

The part about "allow for the termination of all rules, regulation and articles, even those found in the Constitution" is pretty accurate. Quoted from the declaration of independence itself.
 
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