Union Pacific Curtails Fertilizer Shipments, Delaying Deliveries and Preventing New Rail Orders from Being Taken

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Ill say one thing, Farmers are a clever group. they know the land , and need to find a way to earn a living. If they have to they will find a way to make it work. maybe trade thier hay, for cowshit or something , Maybe mulching leaves , i dont know Im not a farmer, But they have a bag of tricks and a lot of land and small communities that help each other. They may find another cheap substitute to keep them going .
 
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spat said:
Could be longer term than that.

There may be enough residual nitrogen in the soil to get a modest yield this year. But if this continues yield will plummet even further next year.

We will rapidly deplete the capacity of the farmland to far below even the natural unfertilized capacity.
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Nope. If they don’t get the N the yield will be wayyy off. This year and only get worst. These new varieties depend on high N
 
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GOPerfect said:
Are there other options for you food growers?

Lots of farming ignorance here, can you guys just use a lot of cow shit?
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Short answer.. no

long answer honestly we should all take a break for a year or two but I’m afraid there’s always a few that would cash in on the huge increase in prices. Ppl need to wake the fuck up and stop messing with the farmers …

I can grow enough food for me and my friends and for barter without commercial fertilizer… I can’t grow enough to trade people for shitty fiat currency that I pay taxes on without commercial fertilizer….
 
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phatfarmerbob said:
Short answer.. no

long answer honestly we should all take a break for a year or two but I’m afraid there’s always a few that would cash in on the huge increase in prices. Ppl need to wake the fuck up and stop messing with the farmers …

I can grow enough food for me and my friends and for barter without commercial fertilizer… I can’t grow enough to trade people for shitty fiat currency that I pay taxes on without commercial fertilizer….
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Thank you
 
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55972C4C-8E2E-4B87-868B-40DE096A158A.jpegLook at the first four plants. I forgot to turn on the fertilizer when I started this row. This is healthy soil lots of organic matter lots of earth worms, pretty much perfect. This is what happens without fertilizer. Can I get tomatoes off it ? Yes! Can I get enough for people I don’t know ? NO!!
 
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View attachment 155156Look at the first four plants. I forgot to turn on the fertilizer when I started this row. This is healthy soil lots of organic matter lots of earth worms, pretty much perfect. This is what happens without fertilizer. Can I get tomatoes off it ? Yes! Can I get enough for people I don’t know ? NO!!
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I gotta come out and see your farm spread this year. Maybe I'll pick a good weekend and drive to the farm.
 
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Anytime. It’s a bit of a hike for you but if your in the area let me know. When I’m in the thick of it I don’t have much time to give a tour but if I know your coming I can make myself available. Late afternoon (after 6 ) mornings are a nonstarter no matter what, just too much going on. It’d be my pleasure as we share many of the same views.
 
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i grew Tomatoes in the house learning hydroponics yrs ago .. Tomatoes are ass holes .. lol

but i did get one .. LOL .. i think i spent 100 bucks in liquid food for one green tomatoe once i figured out the food and had to be the
bumble bee ..

it was a good learning experience

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All the things they used to say to us....

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Everything that once seemed random and unconnected is now all starting to line up to form an epic sh1tstorm.

Lockdowns in Chinese manufacturing and distribution, backlogs on intermodal shipping, unavailable spare parts and needed commodities, war in Ukraine, reduced fertilizer potash and wheat/grains, natural gas and oil supply reductions and price increases, less predictable weather patterns for farming and significantly reduced available olagala aquifer water supply, china hording a majority of the worlds available grain supply etc...

It's going to get crazy.
 
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phatfarmerbob said:
View attachment 155156Look at the first four plants. I forgot to turn on the fertilizer when I started this row. This is healthy soil lots of organic matter lots of earth worms, pretty much perfect. This is what happens without fertilizer. Can I get tomatoes off it ? Yes! Can I get enough for people I don’t know ? NO!!
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What a great visual example that photo is. Thanks for posting that.

Things like this is why I like this forum so much.
 
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holdover said:
Is this going to bankrupt some farmers if they cant make enough money?
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Uncle Sam will offer a "Loan" that'll amount to a controlling interest in the operation dictating what, how much, and the final distribution/price for the commodity produced.....don't they have a word for this? something like Fascism or communism, or is it socialism? any way the gubberment's been doing it to the Dairy Farmers for decades...so much for "Freedom".
 
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Cuomo may be gone but his Gun Squad remains.
Will we say "Enough" when gas is 5.00? Nah! Brandon will say it is our duty!

Will we say "Enough" when gas is 10.00? Nah! Hollywood will say it's to save "Mother Earth"!

Will we say "Enough" when beer is 20.00 a six-pack? Brandon and Hollywood are scared that we will.

But when you can't get ripe strawberries in NY in February, well then perhaps we will say "enough".
 
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Bigfoot said:
What a great visual example that photo is. Thanks for posting that.

Things like this is why I like this forum so much.
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There are many ways to improve your soil . Now farming a thousand acres this is impossible. but for a garden doable. Plant clover any legume and turn i(plow )t under it will provide nitrogen.
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Three Legume Cover Crops for Nitrogen, Better Tilth and More

By Noah Courser-Kellerman, Farmer at Alprilla Farm Cover crops are the backbone of our soil building strategy at Alprilla Farm. Most of our land is a heavy silt loam tending towards clay, laid down by the shallow sea that covered our area after the glaciers receded. While our soils can be quite
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Yes, there seem to be good, relevant reasons for using Epsom salts for plants. Epsom salt helps improve flower blooming and enhances a plant's green color. It can even help plants grow bushier. Epsom salt is made up of hydrated magnesium sulfate (magnesium and sulfur), which is important to healthy plant growth.Dec 5, 2021

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Gardening 101: How to Use Eggshells in the Garden - Gardenista

Last fall I started collecting eggshells after I read an article on Real Farmacy that touted their usefulness in the garden for everything from fertilizer
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When tilled into the soil, ground eggshells provide your plants with calcium.
How to Make Homemade Potassium for Plants
  1. Add fruit to compost. Cut potassium-rich banana peels into small pieces, then mix into your compost pile. ...
  2. Burn wood. Gather the potassium-rich ashes once the fire is out. ...
  3. Collect used coffee grounds.
 
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FP1201 said:
Uncle Sam will offer a "Loan" that'll amount to a controlling interest in the operation dictating what, how much, and the final distribution/price for the commodity produced.....don't they have a word for this? something like Fascism or communism, or is it socialism? any way the gubberment's been doing it to the Dairy Farmers for decades...so much for "Freedom".
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I was thinking of black rock, just sitting there, licking their chops.
 
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A couple years ago, during the start of CONvid, my wife read a FB post to me. Some dipshit bitch posted, "What do we even need farms for anyway?"

She is in for an education via 101 starvation. I hope she gets what she deserves. How can someone be so blatantly stupid and survive?
Oh sorry. Daddy gubamit will carry her for a little while on our dime. She's doomed.
 
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