Upcoming food shortages?

tc556guy · Jul 25, 2023

Drinkthekoolaid said:
The Ukrainian grain deal is kaput, so there goes 20-30% of global wheat and grain.

Now, India is banning the export of rice (20-30% of global rice)

Exclusive: India's rice-export curbs put contracts for 2 million tons at risk, dealers say

India's decision to ban non-basmati white rice exports will spur traders to cancel contracts to sell around 2 million metric tons of the grain, worth $1 billion, on the world market, dealers said on Friday.

www.reuters.com

And you have countries that are well documented as stockpiling and hording food.

China hoards over half the world's grain, pushing up global prices

Testy ties with U.S. and Australia could be prodding China to boost food reserves

asia.nikkei.com

Is China preparing for war? Soaring food, gold stockpiles an ominous sign | Asia Markets

China's has opened the floodgates to imports of critical food supplies, causing some geopolitical experts to speculate the ruling party is preparing for war.

www.asiamarkets.com

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www.telegraph.co.uk

Makes you go hmmmmmmm........

Read between the lines. Don't listen to what they say, observe what they do.

The USA should be stockpiling food for the lean times as well. I would consider that a legitimate role of the Federal government

Deplorable Me · Jul 25, 2023

Unfortunately the breakdown of the world economy is a contributing factor to war. The haves and have nots.

RedBreast21 · Jul 25, 2023

Shortages? No. Serious food inflation for items during certain times of the year as we will be buying food from BRICS nations and applicants that will either dump or severely curtail use of the dollar and will require the U.S. trade in either all or a portion of the new BRICS currency. Higher prices doesn't indicate shortages just a shortage of people who can pay which by the laws of supply and demand, cut demand and thereby supply.

The food trade deals we have in place are all going to be blown up.

TEOTWAWKI inc. · Jul 27, 2023

I need 1 year. That's the plan at least.

Glock_USA · Jul 27, 2023

CaliberPlus · Jul 27, 2023

tc556guy said:
The USA should be stockpiling food for the lean times as well. I would consider that a legitimate role of the Federal government

They would just deplete it like the SPR. I was reading that may NEVER be replenished. The caverns may not hold up after being emptied.

I think with the amount of garbage going on in the world it is a really good idea to have some reserves. Remember how fast Covid disrupted supply chains?

livingston · Jul 28, 2023

tc556guy said:
The USA should be stockpiling food for the lean times as well. I would consider that a legitimate role of the Federal government

I believe we have some of the largest grain reserves in the world. We have a great deal of storage on farms. Right now we have drought conditions in several states. Beef cattle numbers is at the lowest in over 40 years. This is due to the drought of past years. The government has been promoting reducing nitrogen fertilizer to reduce global warming. . We have seen how the government has handled the oil reserves. .. gone ... Do we trust our government to handle our grain reserves ... Be proactive if you can and store what you need. We have wheat and a mill . Girlfriend and i took a food preservation course from co-operative extension last year. We grow a garden and can the food along with a freezer.... We still can find a lot of information on the internet ... For now.... on setting up a food storage system. Myself I would love to have a root cellar ... I can foresee at least a 3 month supply of food .. To start with. ... We have more.

CaliberPlus · Jul 29, 2023

I might suggest looking up Backwoods Home magazine and books by Jackie Clay. Lots of great info on being self sufficient.

Saltwater60 · Jul 29, 2023

Don’t worry Joe Biden has got this.

livingston · Jul 29, 2023

Folks one can look to my prior posts in this section of the forum .... Food is not the only thing we need to stockpile.. I firmly believe that China will make a move for Taiwan .Thus setting off a WW3 style event. Think of what this would do to your everyday life.....Another pandemic tailored to the shot most of us received .. An EMP type of situation could occur .. Targets have been mapped out by balloon . They have been collecting data on our electric grid and water supply. (done for decades )... Thousand of agents could have been placed all over this country ... Ready to cause disruptions at the correct time. This is just a few examples. Walmart would close up. Shipping would cease. Let one oil tanker get hit and they all stop (no insurance ).
At a time when we should be much more self reliant as a country this administration has done everything it can to make sure we are not. Selling off our oil reserves. Curtailing our ability to produce oil and natural gas. Coal production destroyed .. One needs coal to make coke used in steel production. It almost seems that the democrats have done everything they can to destroy our industries ... Needed for a war footing and response ...
Where am i going with this folks... Food is not enough. Shoes and gloves, underwear and socks.... IF we are moved back to an 1800's lifestyle . Your car and tractor cannot run because China produced the part... Or they produced the machine that produced the part one needs.
Some of you folks will say I will heat with wood not worried. .. Folks what percentage of the population could heat with wood... ??? What about a splitting maul , A pair of good axes. Perhaps a crosscut saw... .. Can you keep it sharp.
Do you have a sleeping bag warm enough for below zero weather without heat. ? It might come to that.
Books have covered this subject.. You tube is filled with folks giving advice.
Enough of my rant.

spat · Jul 29, 2023

livingston said:
Folks one can look to my prior posts in this section of the forum .... Food is not the only thing we need to stockpile.. I firmly believe that China will make a move for Taiwan .Thus setting off a WW3 style event. Think of what this would do to your everyday life.....Another pandemic tailored to the shot most of us received .. An EMP type of situation could occur .. Targets have been mapped out by balloon . They have been collecting data on our electric grid and water supply. (done for decades )... Thousand of agents could have been placed all over this country ... Ready to cause disruptions at the correct time. This is just a few examples. Walmart would close up. Shipping would cease. Let one oil tanker get hit and they all stop (no insurance ).
At a time when we should be much more self reliant as a country this administration has done everything it can to make sure we are not. Selling off our oil reserves. Curtailing our ability to produce oil and natural gas. Coal production destroyed .. One needs coal to make coke used in steel production. It almost seems that the democrats have done everything they can to destroy our industries ... Needed for a war footing and response ...
Where am i going with this folks... Food is not enough. Shoes and gloves, underwear and socks.... IF we are moved back to an 1800's lifestyle . Your car and tractor cannot run because China produced the part... Or they produced the machine that produced the part one needs.
Some of you folks will say I will heat with wood not worried. .. Folks what percentage of the population could heat with wood... ??? What about a splitting maul , A pair of good axes. Perhaps a crosscut saw... .. Can you keep it sharp.
Do you have a sleeping bag warm enough for below zero weather without heat. ? It might come to that.
Books have covered this subject.. You tube is filled with folks giving advice.
Enough of my rant.

If Taiwan is invaded, expect no spare parts for anything with any electronics to be available for a long time.

Now, this means more than just "I can't get a control board for my AC that's broken". The supply chains are so lean now that there aren't many domestic stocks for parts. Expect what chips *are* available to be spoken for by people with a lot more pull than you have.

It also means, no new cars.

It also means once a car, truck, train, tractor, combine, etc... breaks, it's likely to stay broken for a long long time.

Now imagine what *that* does to the supply chain. Even parts that aren't electronic are produced by machines that are.

It also would virtually guarantee the flood of cheap shit from China dries up overnight. Now, that's not a bad thing for domestic production, but if it happens suddenly the shock will be enormous.

Imagine you can't get milk because they can't make gallon jugs because some part of that chain lives in China, and it'll take years to re-tool things back to use glass, or to replace the Chinesium in the supply chain.

Remember what happened to Toilet paper, when there wasn't *any* disruption in that supply chain ?

Now imagine that you can't even legally buy food grown by your local farmer, because he can't get the FDA approved packaging anymore, because some useless plastic clip was sourced in China, and they can't sell the packaging to him without it.

Things could get very ugly very fast.

That's the danger of globalization. When everything is interconnected, then failures cascade throughout the entire economy.

livingston · Jul 29, 2023

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The discovery of the malware has raised fears that Chinese hackers, probably working for the People’s Liberation Army, have inserted code designed to disrupt U.S. military operations in the event of a conflict, including if Beijing moves against Taiwan in coming years.

The malware, one congressional official said, was essentially “a ticking time bomb” that could give China the power to interrupt or slow American military deployments or resupply operations by cutting off power, water and communications to U.S. military bases. But its impact could be far broader, because that same infrastructure often supplies the houses and businesses of ordinary Americans, according to U.S. officials.

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livingston · Jul 29, 2023

spat said:
If Taiwan is invaded, expect no spare parts for anything with any electronics to be available for a long time.

Now, this means more than just "I can't get a control board for my AC that's broken". The supply chains are so lean now that there aren't many domestic stocks for parts. Expect what chips *are* available to be spoken for by people with a lot more pull than you have.

It also means, no new cars.

It also means once a car, truck, train, tractor, combine, etc... breaks, it's likely to stay broken for a long long time.

Now imagine what *that* does to the supply chain. Even parts that aren't electronic are produced by machines that are.

It also would virtually guarantee the flood of cheap shit from China dries up overnight. Now, that's not a bad thing for domestic production, but if it happens suddenly the shock will be enormous.

Imagine you can't get milk because they can't make gallon jugs because some part of that chain lives in China, and it'll take years to re-tool things back to use glass, or to replace the Chinesium in the supply chain.

Remember what happened to Toilet paper, when there wasn't *any* disruption in that supply chain ?

Now imagine that you can't even legally buy food grown by your local farmer, because he can't get the FDA approved packaging anymore, because some useless plastic clip was sourced in China, and they can't sell the packaging to him without it.

Things could get very ugly very fast.

That's the danger of globalization. When everything is interconnected, then failures cascade throughout the entire economy.

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TEOTWAWKI inc. · Jul 30, 2023

Mostly LTL, but 12,000 trucks missing from our highways won't be very good.

Trucking giant Yellow shuts down: 99-year-old company has 30,000 staff

Yellow, one of the nation's oldest trucking companies, announced on Sunday it was closing down, with 30,000 jobs at risk. The Nashville-based firm is heavy with debt and at war with Teamsters.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Yellow ceases operations

Less-than-truckload carrier Yellow Corp. closed its gates at 12 p.m. Sunday. The post Yellow ceases operations appeared first on FreightWaves.

finance.yahoo.com

TEOTWAWKI inc. · Aug 8, 2023

Driven by decreased demand (a result of absurd prices).

Tyson CEO on chicken plant closures: There hasn’t been 'a more challenging time'

Tyson Foods CEO called the closures an "efficiency play short term." Here's what happens to employees who work there and more.

finance.yahoo.com

I'm thinking about adding some Indio Gigante chickens to my flock.

That's a big ass chicken

livingston · Aug 8, 2023

Heavy rains, floods devastate crops in China’s northeastern grain basket

Heavy rains lashing China’s northeast are ravaging crops in some areas of the country’s grain basket, threatening to increase imports at a time of rising food insecurity across the globe.
Recent flooding has destroyed rice planted in parts of Jilin and Heilongjiang provinces, local media reported. The rains are expected to continue across most of the region this week as typhoon season continues to wreak havoc, raising the risk that more agricultural land will be inundated, according to the National Meteorological Center.

Heavy rains, floods devastate crops in China’s northeastern grain basket

Heavy rains lashing China’s northeast are ravaging crops in some areas of the country’s grain basket, threatening to increase imports at a time of rising

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